Hey all. It's great to see clubs in from launch for the first time. However, there are definite improvements needed for clubs to get them to surpass or even just back to the level of where they were in DiRT Rally 2.0 and even DiRT Rally.
1 - Moderated Clubs - right now we lack the option to moderate who can and can't join your club. For private communities or leagues trying to run things in a more organised way, this is essential. I'm personally not a fan of having people I don't know to some extent on my friends lists, so \"friends only\" is not really a good option. Our current workaround is to have a separate club-specific account that is set as the owner that then has to have people add that as a friend. It's very fiddly and I feel unnecessary.
2 - Multiclass - this is a massive part of rallying and a feature that was in the original DiRT Rally. Not only is it a huge part of real rallying, but it allows us to craft experiences for our communities that means more people can take part in something they will enjoy. We used to be able to pick specific cars AND classes in the original DiRT Rally Leagues. DR 2.0 lost this functionality and it hasn't returned since.
3 - Inability to set a specific date - while we can set things to start in so many days then the specific time on those days, we could set specific dates in DiRT Rally 2.0 through the browser without having to work out how many days or hours we need to start the event in.
4 - No location mixing - another feature of the original DiRT Rally leagues. We could mix locations and create huge, varied events if we wanted to do something different. While there are an incredible amount of stages in the game, things will still get quite repetitive when running certain countries quite quickly. This was jettisoned after the original DiRT Rally leagues and hasn't been seen since.
5 - Can't select stage degradation per stage - in DiRT Rally 2.0 clubs, we could select the level of stage degradation per stage. This helped create a feeling of progressing through loops and the rally as a whole and keeping conditions somewhat dynamic. Right now we can only set a single setting for the whole event.
6 - Ability to create events through the browser - this was VERY useful in DiRT Rally and DiRT Rally 2.0. It is very fiddly to have to do it through the game itself, while we can only join and create clubs through the Racenet website. The whole thing is very fiddly.
7 - Ability to enforce camera types - in multiplayer lobbies, we can limit the cameras to \"interior only\", \"no chase\" or \"allow all\". Having this option in clubs would be fantastic for those looking to create something tailored to their desires.
8 - Ability to choose specific assists - rather than an overall \"on\" or \"off\" setting, being able to choose specific assists allowed in your events would also be very useful.
9 - Viewing the overall standings - this is... fiddly. The only way to view the overall standings after a specific stage is to go into the events overview, then the specific event and then click \"overall standings\" straight after a stage. You can't view the overall standings after a specific stage on the Racenet website or in the service area. In quick play and other single-player modes, the overall standings are displayed straight after the stage times.
10 - Ability to set specific days of an event - this could then open up people who have terminal damage to return on day 2/day 3/day 4 of an event. Right now you can quit a specific stage but only DNF that stage and carry on, whereas if you get terminal damage, your event is completely over. If you get terminal damage in the SP career or championships, you can come back on a later day. A specific option to allow rejoining on later stages or days would also be useful.
I'm sure there's more I could add, but I think the general message is more options would be fantastic. Options are no bad thing when they can create an even more crafted, immersive experience. As a league admin, it's been frustrating to lose functionality since the release of DiRT Rally. Fingers crossed some of this can be taken onboard and implemented for this title.
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1 - Moderated Clubs - right now we lack the option to moderate who can and can't join your club. For private communities or leagues trying to run things in a more organised way, this is essential. I'm personally not a fan of having people I don't know to some extent on my friends lists, so \"friends only\" is not really a good option. Our current workaround is to have a separate club-specific account that is set as the owner that then has to have people add that as a friend. It's very fiddly and I feel unnecessary.
2 - Multiclass - this is a massive part of rallying and a feature that was in the original DiRT Rally. Not only is it a huge part of real rallying, but it allows us to craft experiences for our communities that means more people can take part in something they will enjoy. We used to be able to pick specific cars AND classes in the original DiRT Rally Leagues. DR 2.0 lost this functionality and it hasn't returned since.
3 - Inability to set a specific date - while we can set things to start in so many days then the specific time on those days, we could set specific dates in DiRT Rally 2.0 through the browser without having to work out how many days or hours we need to start the event in.
4 - No location mixing - another feature of the original DiRT Rally leagues. We could mix locations and create huge, varied events if we wanted to do something different. While there are an incredible amount of stages in the game, things will still get quite repetitive when running certain countries quite quickly. This was jettisoned after the original DiRT Rally leagues and hasn't been seen since.
5 - Can't select stage degradation per stage - in DiRT Rally 2.0 clubs, we could select the level of stage degradation per stage. This helped create a feeling of progressing through loops and the rally as a whole and keeping conditions somewhat dynamic. Right now we can only set a single setting for the whole event.
6 - Ability to create events through the browser - this was VERY useful in DiRT Rally and DiRT Rally 2.0. It is very fiddly to have to do it through the game itself, while we can only join and create clubs through the Racenet website. The whole thing is very fiddly.
7 - Ability to enforce camera types - in multiplayer lobbies, we can limit the cameras to \"interior only\", \"no chase\" or \"allow all\". Having this option in clubs would be fantastic for those looking to create something tailored to their desires.
8 - Ability to choose specific assists - rather than an overall \"on\" or \"off\" setting, being able to choose specific assists allowed in your events would also be very useful.
9 - Viewing the overall standings - this is... fiddly. The only way to view the overall standings after a specific stage is to go into the events overview, then the specific event and then click \"overall standings\" straight after a stage. You can't view the overall standings after a specific stage on the Racenet website or in the service area. In quick play and other single-player modes, the overall standings are displayed straight after the stage times.
10 - Ability to set specific days of an event - this could then open up people who have terminal damage to return on day 2/day 3/day 4 of an event. Right now you can quit a specific stage but only DNF that stage and carry on, whereas if you get terminal damage, your event is completely over. If you get terminal damage in the SP career or championships, you can come back on a later day. A specific option to allow rejoining on later stages or days would also be useful.
I'm sure there's more I could add, but I think the general message is more options would be fantastic. Options are no bad thing when they can create an even more crafted, immersive experience. As a league admin, it's been frustrating to lose functionality since the release of DiRT Rally. Fingers crossed some of this can be taken onboard and implemented for this title.
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Some drivers can quit stage 1 and come back to do later stages and make the results, where as those who DNF stage 5 out of 5 won't show.
We really need an overall leaderboard after each stage, and one that includes all DNF'S!
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Some drivers can quit stage 1 and come back to do later stages and make the results, where as those who DNF stage 5 out of 5 won't show.
We really need an overall leaderboard after each stage, and one that includes all DNF'S!
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with all of these points. Here's some of my thoughts in no particular order:
Times for retired drivers - Currently the game only shows retired drivers in championship standings. If a driver retires, they don't show up in stage results and event standing. There isn't any data for retired drivers either. Championship standings show retired drivers and their overall time after the championship has ended. In it, the overall time is counted with maximum stage times which I think are 16 min, 25 min and 35 min depending on the stage length. These maximum stage times should be displayed in the stage results and then the overall time in the event standings.
Used tyres shouldn't go away - If you switch tyres, you lose the tyre set you switched off. We should be able to reuse old tyres as worn softs could be better than new mediums in some rallies. This would add more tyre strategies for clubs.
Tyre fitting zones - Just the ability to change tyres without repairs. These would add more strategies to clubs and allow organisers make more distinct rallies.
Roadside service - You should be able to make minor setup changes and rotate tyres around the car or take new tyres from the boot between stages. Roadside services should be controlled with an on/off setting.
Flying finish - In clubs, the stages end at the finish line like in time trial. You should have to drive to the marshall like in DiRT Rally 2.0. This is how it's in other game modes (career and quick play) in EA Sports WRC, I don't know why clubs should be any different.
Creating an upcoming championship during a championship - Currently you have to wait for the championship to end before you can make a new one. This is really annoying and should be changed.
Main focus should be on the service bug and then in multiclass and degradation settings.
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Times for retired drivers - Currently the game only shows retired drivers in championship standings. If a driver retires, they don't show up in stage results and event standing. There isn't any data for retired drivers either. Championship standings show retired drivers and their overall time after the championship has ended. In it, the overall time is counted with maximum stage times which I think are 16 min, 25 min and 35 min depending on the stage length. These maximum stage times should be displayed in the stage results and then the overall time in the event standings.
Used tyres shouldn't go away - If you switch tyres, you lose the tyre set you switched off. We should be able to reuse old tyres as worn softs could be better than new mediums in some rallies. This would add more tyre strategies for clubs.
Tyre fitting zones - Just the ability to change tyres without repairs. These would add more strategies to clubs and allow organisers make more distinct rallies.
Roadside service - You should be able to make minor setup changes and rotate tyres around the car or take new tyres from the boot between stages. Roadside services should be controlled with an on/off setting.
Flying finish - In clubs, the stages end at the finish line like in time trial. You should have to drive to the marshall like in DiRT Rally 2.0. This is how it's in other game modes (career and quick play) in EA Sports WRC, I don't know why clubs should be any different.
Creating an upcoming championship during a championship - Currently you have to wait for the championship to end before you can make a new one. This is really annoying and should be changed.
Main focus should be on the service bug and then in multiclass and degradation settings.
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