just because Koegi and the company could win the WCS, the creators of the game destroy the cooperation of the whole alliance, help with burning the base loses meaning - all this to Schaff win the WCS again because all the servers lose
from what I read it looks like this:
Admin arrives to Koegi
Admin asks - Koegi what can we do to stop losing and win the WCS
Koegi - destroy multi-accounts
Admin - but it will destroy the cooperation of the alliance, cooperation of the whole alliance
Koegi - but I want to win the WSC, I can not lose again
Admin - but you have multi-accounts yourself
Koegi - yes, but others use them better than me
Admin - OK, we will change it. Can I help you win the WCS somehow?
Koegi - when I start to lose, we will meet again and say what to change so that I can win
Admin - OK
If before - you shout loud in alliance chat - "Guys - I need some help" - you heard - "Sure - I can give a couple attacks on your base." After patch 19.1 you will most probably here "F off - there is nothing for me in it".
Exactly! That Was the topic of our discussion with the envision guys. All we did was to talk about how to get the teamplay back. As i said earlier, i would have implemented a different solution. But - even if you think so - i cant decide what the Design Team and the developers Do.
Another question. Have you posted your thoughts about this on the forum? Or are you just complaining now?
The problem is that you are not credible, answer my question: why did they talk only with you?
We represent perhaps over 700 players, why did not they call a TS session with everyone?
When the referee does not listen to everyone he is no longer a referee but he becomes a player himself.
That's all.
Have you asked them for a Ts Meeting? Did you write them in the forum or Private message?
No because I transparent and I speak in public, I do not care to look for pm to developers.
> @nuubal said: > XCrossover70 wrote: » > > I am not a conspiracy type of person - but facts are as follows: > > T30 - champions are dead - patching, patching, patching > T35 - champions are dead - more patching, patching patching. > T37 - champions are dead - more patching, patching, patching, patching. > > That at least no one can argue with. > > And on top of that it came out that devs are frequently talking with you in your TS? > > > > > Frequently? 4 Times in 6 years? Lol.
True is you have lose all last 3 servers and after that allways is comming new patch changing something. We know from start devs are on your side. You got a seperate vote for champ server in your german forum.
How now, accidently leaking information that such meetings has occurred can anyone ever believe that they were 4?
And I am now officially inviting devs to our channel - where we do represent the coalition of at least 700 real people who is preparing for world champ - thank you Nuubal - I did not know that such opportunity existed. And we would like to talk to devs how latest patch will affect us there.
Tell me. What would have happened if we had massivly used multis to prehit Bases and had won because of that? Would you still like that?
Just Look back. Several years ago with the farming of Player defenses. We did it the Best and won. Check the last wcs with the lockdown of attacker in pvp. We did it the Best and won. Both mechanics were killed with a Patch and we like that. Now you had won with this mechanics, it got patched and is now a Problem lol.
Tell me. What would have happened if we had massivly used multis to prehit Bases and had won because of that? Would you still like that?
Just Look back. Several years ago with the farming of Player defenses. We did it the Best and won. Check the last wcs with the lockdown of attacker in pvp. We did it the Best and won. Both mechanics were killed with a Patch and we like that. Now you had won with this mechanics, it got patched and is now a Problem lol.
the problem is always the referee who becomes a player .....
> @nuubal said: > Tell me. What would have happened if we had massivly used multis to prehit Bases and had won because of that? Would you still like that? > Just Look back. Several years ago with the farming of Player defenses. We did it the Best and won. Check the last wcs with the lockdown of attacker in pvp. We did it the Best and won. Both mechanics were killed with a Patch and we like that. Now you had won with this mechanics, it got patched and is now a Problem lol.
As i remember on T37 YDK start with about 10 15 alts on South sector? What about you nubal? Did you use some? =)
According to your post now.
Every mechanic you losing have to be changed is that right? When you was winning no any patches has come over.
> @nuubal said:
> Both mechanics were killed with a Patch and we like that. Now you had won with this mechanics, it got patched and is now a Problem lol.
That patch killed teamplay. Now you can't burn bases with your friend cause you will get nothing. So now if you wont kill by yourself you are done. Great patch.
It was a valid game mechanics that was used by some of our players who do have time to play on many accounts. You could have also used it - but you did not want to - what can I say - your problem. And this discussion is besides the point.
It is not the multy-accounting that is the problem - it is that resource sharing that is the problem. And to be honest we will start thinking what we will do. Maybe we decide not to go to world champ with the patch that prevents any meaningful cooperation between team members. Are you guys ready to loose 700+ paying customers?
> @nuubal said:
> Tell me. What would have happened if we had massivly used multis to prehit Bases and had won because of that? Would you still like that?
> Just Look back. Several years ago with the farming of Player defenses. We did it the Best and won. Check the last wcs with the lockdown of attacker in pvp. We did it the Best and won. Both mechanics were killed with a Patch and we like that. Now you had won with this mechanics, it got patched and is now a Problem lol.
As i remember on T37 YDK start with about 10 15 alts on South sector? What about you nubal? Did you use some?
According to your post now.
Every mechanic you losing have to be changed is that right? When you was winning no any patches has come over.
> Both mechanics were killed with a Patch and we like that. Now you had won with this mechanics, it got patched and is now a Problem lol.
That patch killed teamplay. Now you can't burn bases with your friend cause you will get nothing. So now if you wont kill by yourself you are done. Great patch.
Solution is simple. No one TTD player join WCS.
You have already win nuubal :-)
That patch killed teamplay. Now you can't burn bases with your friend cause you will get nothing. So now if you wont kill by yourself you are done. Great patch.
Yes that Patch killed it. And i Already have told you that i had done it different. I wanted the Ressources to be splitted to every attacker based on some values like amount of attacks or damage. But they decided to do it their way.
> @nuubal said:
> Tell me. What would have happened if we had massivly used multis to prehit Bases and had won because of that? Would you still like that?
> Just Look back. Several years ago with the farming of Player defenses. We did it the Best and won. Check the last wcs with the lockdown of attacker in pvp. We did it the Best and won. Both mechanics were killed with a Patch and we like that. Now you had won with this mechanics, it got patched and is now a Problem lol.
As i remember on T37 YDK start with about 10 15 alts on South sector? What about you nubal? Did you use some?
According to your post now.
Every mechanic you losing have to be changed is that right? When you was winning no any patches has come over.
> Both mechanics were killed with a Patch and we like that. Now you had won with this mechanics, it got patched and is now a Problem lol.
That patch killed teamplay. Now you can't burn bases with your friend cause you will get nothing. So now if you wont kill by yourself you are done. Great patch.
Solution is simple. No one TTD player join WCS.
You have already win nuubal and KoGey can cultivate his ego :-)
> @XCrossover70 said: > It was a valid game mechanics that was used by some of our players who do have time to play on many accounts. You could have also used it - but you did not want to - what can I say - your problem. And this discussion is besides the point. > > It is not the multy-accounting that is the problem - it is that resource sharing that is the problem. And to be honest we will start thinking what we will do. Maybe we decide not to go to world champ with the patch that prevents any meaningful cooperation between team members. Are you guys ready to loose 700+ paying customers?
In the end its always the same:
Before every WCS everybody ist complaining and says we are cheating.
During WCS we are better and everybody complains and says we are cheating.
Then we win the WCS and our enemies stop playing this game until a new group forms and starts complaing again and says we are cheating and they are far better than we are.
And some players who lost WCS maybe even got the chance to play the next server with us and realized: "Oh, they are not cheating"
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ahahahaahah right ^^^^^
No because I transparent and I speak in public, I do not care to look for pm to developers.
> XCrossover70 wrote: »
>
> I am not a conspiracy type of person - but facts are as follows:
>
> T30 - champions are dead - patching, patching, patching
> T35 - champions are dead - more patching, patching patching.
> T37 - champions are dead - more patching, patching, patching, patching.
>
> That at least no one can argue with.
>
> And on top of that it came out that devs are frequently talking with you in your TS?
>
>
>
>
> Frequently? 4 Times in 6 years? Lol.
True is you have lose all last 3 servers and after that allways is comming new patch changing something. We know from start devs are on your side. You got a seperate vote for champ server in your german forum.
Anyway, any change you make you won't stop us =)
And I am now officially inviting devs to our channel - where we do represent the coalition of at least 700 real people who is preparing for world champ - thank you Nuubal - I did not know that such opportunity existed. And we would like to talk to devs how latest patch will affect us there.
Just Look back. Several years ago with the farming of Player defenses. We did it the Best and won. Check the last wcs with the lockdown of attacker in pvp. We did it the Best and won. Both mechanics were killed with a Patch and we like that. Now you had won with this mechanics, it got patched and is now a Problem lol.
the problem is always the referee who becomes a player .....
> Tell me. What would have happened if we had massivly used multis to prehit Bases and had won because of that? Would you still like that?
> Just Look back. Several years ago with the farming of Player defenses. We did it the Best and won. Check the last wcs with the lockdown of attacker in pvp. We did it the Best and won. Both mechanics were killed with a Patch and we like that. Now you had won with this mechanics, it got patched and is now a Problem lol.
As i remember on T37 YDK start with about 10 15 alts on South sector? What about you nubal? Did you use some? =)
According to your post now.
Every mechanic you losing have to be changed is that right? When you was winning no any patches has come over.
> @nuubal said:
> Both mechanics were killed with a Patch and we like that. Now you had won with this mechanics, it got patched and is now a Problem lol.
That patch killed teamplay. Now you can't burn bases with your friend cause you will get nothing. So now if you wont kill by yourself you are done. Great patch.
It is not the multy-accounting that is the problem - it is that resource sharing that is the problem. And to be honest we will start thinking what we will do. Maybe we decide not to go to world champ with the patch that prevents any meaningful cooperation between team members. Are you guys ready to loose 700+ paying customers?
Solution is simple. No one TTD player join WCS.
You have already win nuubal :-)
Yes that Patch killed it. And i Already have told you that i had done it different. I wanted the Ressources to be splitted to every attacker based on some values like amount of attacks or damage. But they decided to do it their way.
> It was a valid game mechanics that was used by some of our players who do have time to play on many accounts. You could have also used it - but you did not want to - what can I say - your problem. And this discussion is besides the point.
>
> It is not the multy-accounting that is the problem - it is that resource sharing that is the problem. And to be honest we will start thinking what we will do. Maybe we decide not to go to world champ with the patch that prevents any meaningful cooperation between team members. Are you guys ready to loose 700+ paying customers?
Signed
omg if KoGey not take other gold in wcs is a big problem :-)
you have already shown that you can not play without the referee's help :-)
Before every WCS everybody ist complaining and says we are cheating.
During WCS we are better and everybody complains and says we are cheating.
Then we win the WCS and our enemies stop playing this game until a new group forms and starts complaing again and says we are cheating and they are far better than we are.
And some players who lost WCS maybe even got the chance to play the next server with us and realized: "Oh, they are not cheating"