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Morale -Tib 45

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  • > @chertosha said:
    > However, those who started this particular server had all the information necessary to know that this will take a year and will be boring a$f. Stop whining - you knew what you signed up to.
    > When you see another server like that just make the decision not to play it

    TRUE!
  • > @EE_Elephterion said:
    > Hello Commanders,
    > thank you for your feedback. We will take it into account for future worlds.

    Reminder of Wrath 26 a few weeks ago (same incident as Tib 45):
    2 month after the start of the world you changed the ruleset because of some few individuals (6)!
    In this thread more people are complaining and your answer is: "we take it into account for future worlds"

    Thats consistent action :s
  • gamerdruid
    3572 posts Moderator
    Probably learning from experience not to change worlds once they've launched given that you raise the number for the previous time as being 6 and compare it to this thread. Many argued that the change was down to only a few complaining, now here we have you arguing that a few more have complained and you want it changed.

    I am not an employee of EA/Envision. The views expressed are my own!
  • > @gamerdruid said:
    > Probably learning from experience not to change worlds once they've launched

    That would be wise decision!

    >Many argued that the change was down to only a few complaining

    That was the truth!

    >now here we have you arguing that a few more have complained and you want it changed.

    Wrong. I don´t want it changed. I´m not even playing that world - but i remember your (+EE) argumentation about Wrath 26 (regular observation of any world and so on).
    Sorry - but after all that was nonsense!
  • Definitely the morale of this server (Tib45) has been very aggressive, the server is very long and discourages most of the players. In any case it could have been compensated with the base rewards or POI's bonus. But in this server everything plays against the players (aggressive morale, low rewards, normal bonuses, defensive configuration of the complicated bases for the aggressive morale we have) all these items greatly lengthens the server. I hope it will be solved in the future. Sorry for my English.
  • Standard morale settings just don't work on small worlds that have the higher base lvls ..
    The higher base lvls for the forgotten means the base lvls increase more quickly which means the MORALE increases more quickly.

    So again No we did not know what we were getting into because the higher base levels is a NEW aspect of the game.

    and fyi .. the only people that complained about the moral being adjusted on W26 were those that had already quit the server .. the changes affect everyone .. so adjusting the moral will not give anyone an advantage ..

    How about you look at it from a business perspective. What adjusting the morale slightly will do is reduce the time it takes top players to finish the server. After the first few months of a server the amount of revenue/TA fund spent on said server reduces drastically. Wouldn't it be better to let them finish just a little faster so they will move onto the next server and spend more money.
  • zambita27
    1 posts New member
    Is very bad the morality of this server, It's really making you want to play, check the stats, plus the fund adjustment, you're going to lose players. Think about it.
  • ClixS7
    1 posts New member
    Hello

    @gamerdruid & @ EE_Elephterion

    I agree with gamerdruid " not to change worlds once they've launched" ,, and for those who singed up and started this type of servers they had all the information need it to know about the T45 before they join
    1- you know very well it will take very long time to finish
    2- and you know it will be costly compare to other type of servers
    3- and you know it will be boring if no real competitors
    So why whining now?!!

    Advise: next time when you see this type of servers Malue + Tiberium then do not join if you have no time or mode to play such server.



    Suggestion for @ EE_Elephterion I hope it will be under consideration
    If any possibility to push infected OP/Camps challenge with less malue that might help others to level up their offenses faster and gain rewards with extra RT

    Thank you all

    CIC of Black Mamba
  • JacAle8
    2 posts New member
    > @EE_Elephterion said:
    > Hello Commanders,
    > thank you for your feedback. We will take it into account for future worlds.

    I hope you will keep the setting as it is, all players they got all the useful information they need it before stating this world
  • JacAle8
    2 posts New member
    > @CoffeeGoddess said:
    the only people that complained about the moral being adjusted on W26 were those that had already quit the server .. the changes affect everyone .. so adjusting the moral will not give anyone an advantage ..

    > How about you look at it from a business perspective. What adjusting the morale slightly will do is reduce the time it takes top players to finish the server. After the first few months of a server the amount of revenue/TA fund spent on said server reduces drastically. Wouldn't it be better to let them finish just a little faster so they will move onto the next server and spend more money.

    **You can not compare between the two types W26 with T45,, both have different setup
    ** You know such a server is costly compare to normal FA servers like Fs 14 for example they will finish within 2 days from now but you can take another example like T42/W26 it is still running with bases around the centre level 48 and till now they didn't kill the fortress due to PVP + Morals, the only good things about T42 which helped them a lot they got infected challenge in between.
    ** there are many players who can't move to the next servers due to life commitments this is why many they had joined T45 not Fs 14 for example so they have one server to play/focus.

    Yet T45 is without forgotten attacks like Fs13 which is good to focus on offense only

    @EE_Elephterion I hope EA will keep this types of servers as an option for those who like to play and focus on one server rather than playing many due to the life commitments!

    Thanks
  • > @XiSeptimus said:
    > Agreed. The world level increase (with forgotten bases up to level 60) already makes the way to the center much longer. Such a harsh morale penalty makes it ridiculously painful and players are demotivated and quit...

    Then why you joined this world if you already know it is a moral type?!! and why you continued to play if you find it ridiculously painful?!! wired!!

    You saw the news when they announced the T45 right? and yet you signed in and you played and now you are whining as usual!! Stop it XiSeptimus

    Do not sign in again in any future moral servers if you don't like it, go play and show your muscle and your ability with other types of servers and leave this type for us, we are happy with the current setting

    EA announced it from the beginning it's moral Tiberium server with no forgotten attacks so do not complain because moral % is higher than W26
  • > @X00Veronica00X said:

    > Then why you joined this world if you already know it is a moral type?!! and why you continued to play if you find it ridiculously painful?!! wired!!
    >
    but the information about the increased base lvls was NOT included. .. High Morale + Increased bases lvls on a small world .. it is just like W26 .... Not all of the information was given about that server either.

    all of the information was not included in the the announcement for Tib 45 either go read it! it said how many slots, Morale and NO forgotten attacks .. it did not mention anything in the announcement about increased forgotten base lvls .. We are only requesting that they take a look at the morale settings for this world because of that. The standard Morale Settings should NOT be on worlds like this with such High base lvls .. we were expecting a normal classic server ... NOT THIS ...
  • Here is the original announcement from EA for Tib 45

    [url]https://forums.ea.com/en/commandandconquer/discussion/257957/new-tiberian-45-world-starting-may-8th[/url]

    > @EE_Elephterion said:
    >New Tiberian 45 World starting May 8th!

    >EE_Elephterion
    >1503 POSTSDEVELOPER › ENVISION DEVELOPER
    >April 30, 2020 1:41PM
    >Attention, Commander!

    >A new world is about to start soon!
    >Tiberian 45 will start on May 08th, 2020 at 10:00 UTC.

    >The world has 15.000 slots, NO Forgotten Attacks, but Morale system.
    >All players will start with a fixed resource layout.

    >Prepare yourself and your alliance and be ready when the new world launches, to get the best chances to >claim the top of the ranking and be the first to beat the fortress!

    >See you on the battlefield, Commander!

    Where does it say anything about level 60 Forgotten bases? Just because it says “Morale system” doesn’t mean every world has the same settings and that appears to be the issue here.

    Here is it 3 months after the start of the game and look at the world map [url]https://prnt.sc/twa7nj[/url] the world has just approached the 2nd ring. At this rate it appears to be another 6+ months before the first alliance reaches center and then prepare for fort. With the new level 60 FB and high morale settings this sever is a snail’s pace compared to ANY other server.

    Welcome to Farmville45
  • Sigh... no one on 45 is asking for a "do over", they are asking about adjusting malus vs higher level center OPs/bases. CG is right, we "knew" there would be malice on a standard classic world but not the higher level center ops/bases. But some of you go ahead and point fingers... honestly EA will lose $ on servers like this because of length of time of play due to attrition of players for easier servers... imo.
  • I´m a TIB45 Player, is a pain to play on this server due de morale system is very inconsistant. We are almost 4 months playing and we are early the second ring of the map. We need more Bonus and less morale to end soon. Or it will take over a year for first alliance. And much more for second and third.

    We really need a Bonus of 400%, or in other way TIB45 will lose more players. This type of worlds must demand better Bonuses
    Tz
  • We are still looking and investigating about this issue. If we are going to change something about the worlds we will let the community know.
    Envision Entertainment Community Liaison
  • I read what others say, and the truth is that they do not want to solve anything. When I entered the T45 I knew it would be long and I accepted it, but that added to the fact that in the middle of the game the price of funds went up, that was very irritating. This is just a game but I like to know in advance how much time I should consume and how much funds I should spend, neither of the 2 things is fulfilled in the T45. When I started the server I was planning to play 6 months if I was in the leading alliance, or 9 months in 2nd place, 12 months in 3rd place, however seeing that the leading alliance predicts that it will cost a lot to get to what is left for the others who must waiting in line, with the bonuses something very strange happens and they seem to contribute nothing. The difference with FS14 is abysmal, where in less than 3 months they are ready to kill the fortress.
    The icing on the cake is the increase in the price of funds, perhaps they believe that most of those who play are millionaires, or that we would be willing to pay 4 times those of us who live in Argentina.
    I don't know what other players will do, but there are several reasons to leave this game, I already enjoyed it for many years but it is a shame that they push us to leave it.
  • i had no idea the server would be this hard before my invested time and money.
    i do plan on sticking around, but EA needs to know, i have ceased funding the 8 other servers i play, just to keep this one going.
    i wonder how many others have done same?
    this is a pay to play game, for fun....UNDERSTAND EA?
    no fun, no FUNDS>>>>we go to WOW, etc.....
  • yea the new worlds with lvl 65 forgotten bases .. we were not told about that when we started ..
    the news announcement
    "Attention, Commander!

    A new world is about to start soon!
    Tiberian 45 will start on May 08th, 2020 at 10:00 UTC.

    The world has 15.000 slots, NO Forgotten Attacks, but Morale system.
    All players will start with a fixed resource layout.

    Prepare yourself and your alliance and be ready when the new world launches, to get the best chances to claim the top of the ranking and be the first to beat the fortress!

    See you on the battlefield, Commander!"

    No where in there does it say anything about being lvl 65 forgotten bases. So the morale is set for the regular lvl 41 base worlds, makes reaching lvl 65 bases hard to do within a reasonable amount of time .. Couple that with POI that don't give bonuses much better than the lvl 41 base worlds .. this world is totally harsh. I'm subborn .. I'll stick to it and play it through as long as my team is willing but I'm definitely done buying funds for this world. Once they run out .!.. i'm done.
  • Redeem1
    1 posts New member
    The morale in this world has major penalties... I'm afraid many will never get to the endgame... something needs to be done to adjust this quick!
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