dt had advantage at start , now we do , i am against restart , they had good resource kills and poi early game, we would have silence if this was the other way around,
hi bin im N/O gestartet und habe sofort die kuppel verloren. man war gezwungen sofort eine Deff aufzubauen, also die Slots für VE und VZ zu verbrauchen, andere konnten diese für cash benutzen. gleichzeitig musste man einen erheblichen teil an Kris in die Deff stecken. andere konnten damit ihre off pushen. während man selbst sinnlos in machbare Basengebiete verlegen musste, somit verlege und Prodisperre generierte, konnten andere sofort in die Basen gehen. während man selbst sich an kleinen Basen hocharbeiten und 2 Wellenbereiche vermeiden musste, konnten andere sofort Forschungspunkte an größeren Basen farmen. es ist sicher seitens EA machbar nachzuvollziehen wer am ersten tag ohne verschulden den Schutz verloren hat. solche Spieler sollten entschädigt werden, haben sie doch ohne verschulden einen erheblichen Nachteil erlitten. einfach auf einen kommenden Server zu verweisen ist recht billig und hebt den nachteil der betroffenen Spieler nicht auf.
In my opinion the only solution is close this world and open the new one because its over due to the fact that the bases were **** up. And I would like something like a premium supply pack for everyone because most of us spend funds here and got a **** up world ...
F15 should continue as it is. No new F16. You will rob people of their glory when starting F16 as a fake F15.
The people who complain are the ones who thought they were smart and they bet wrong while knowing some changes were coming. Nobody knew what would happen so it is all fair game, we knew from the beginning this was the situation.
People spent lots of time and funds already, any more changes or starting new world will just **** off MORE people. You want to appease the complainers but any change will just result in more people getting angry.
The minimum you can do is offer some free packages to all on F15 and DONT screw up again on the next world
NIMST4R5; You are not only a bad player, but also a very stupid one.
How can you say that you deserve the benefit you have because you destroyed bases of level + 12, + 13, + 14 + ... + 19 ??? That can be done by any alliance (obviously with those base levels you are going to drill 60 fields).
However, we had my LatinC alliance compiled from the beginning:
1) We took the first jump and lost bubble (we had to put up defense - we lost hours for our B2)
2) We had to wait at least 18 hours to start attacking bases of level 19 and 20 (attacking in pairs with a minimum of 200 cp per account)
3) Many of our accounts died with a single attack due to the level of bases we had at the front.
With this I make you understand that we also plan the most optimal way to drill.
If we had been in a sector like yours, believe me that we would have obtained a POI level 32 after the configuration of E.A (I see your progress and they really make you laugh).
So the most logical thing for all of us who are participating in the F15 server is to restart the server or start a new F16 !!
Under equal competition for all.
PDTA: We are not crying, we demand justice.
After some discussion internally we can say that restarting the world is not an option for the problem at hand. But if players wish for a new start we could consider opening a new world with the settings of Firestorm 15, including the faction lock on alliances, and closing FS15 for new players.
Last WCS started also with a bug where you was able to buy Repair Time. You restarted the server and gave funds back for it, leaving limits added.
Could you do something similar to a firestorm? You got logs data etc. I completely understand that will cost you some work, but for mistakes sometimes you have to pay.
If you want to make people happy I think this is only one option to do.
Reset the server, that is your ONLY option, with refunds to the players, also i have some badges on my account, what can i do with them? can i spend them? or can i cash them in for money back? or are they just worthless?
> @sentierorosso said: > http://myprintscreen.com/s/1625856755.81047976.png > > Asking respect the rules is not crying, who is cheating and is taking advantage of a big mistake of the developers is you and not us. > > And now you want also refund? > Unreal! > Yes you can have refound but if they close F15 and open F16 with same players. > Otherwise it's another scam.
I dont want any refund or any compensation. But I can understand some player want it.
Yes you kicked me, because you thought another GDI player can be better. But now you know it was a mistake.
You play a game with the other players, you dont care, only care yourself. This is clear now for everyone to see
> @420GanjaSmoke said:
> just take a look at this @EE_Elephterion ... the gap between gods of nods and the rest of us will continue to grow further. Its just simple plain math. Bases resources grow Exponentially and not arithmetically. You cannot compare God of nods digging bases lv30 with the other alliances digging level 24,25 bases.
We dug faster and better as a team. Then this is our reward.
The others thought it was smart to only use GDI and start hitting 22 bases. No complaining at that time from them!! The others maybe complained. And now the tables turned again. So why complain.
No reset. No F16. It would just make things worse.
It was a wrong start from the beginning because it was supposed to be a one faction alliance to begin with and also all the complains about bubble drop and high bases in one sector and not in another sector were wrote down as complains so please don't come here talking non-sense. It was a big mess from the beginning. Shutdown F15 or keep it just for 1 alliance so they can farm freely their 1st badge and let's have a F16 with real players that want a fair game for all. Hopefully 1 faction alliance will work on F16!!!
> @aitite said: > NIMST4R5; You are not only a bad player, but also a very stupid one. > How can you say that you deserve the benefit you have because you destroyed bases of level + 12, + 13, + 14 + ... + 19 ??? That can be done by any alliance (obviously with those base levels you are going to drill 60 fields). > However, we had my LatinC alliance compiled from the beginning: > 1) We took the first jump and lost bubble (we had to put up defense - we lost hours for our B2) > 2) We had to wait at least 18 hours to start attacking bases of level 19 and 20 (attacking in pairs with a minimum of 200 cp per account) > 3) Many of our accounts died with a single attack due to the level of bases we had at the front. > With this I make you understand that we also plan the most optimal way to drill. > If we had been in a sector like yours, believe me that we would have obtained a POI level 32 after the configuration of E.A (I see your progress and they really make you laugh). > So the most logical thing for all of us who are participating in the F15 server is to restart the server or start a new F16 !! > Under equal competition for all. > PDTA: We are not crying, we demand justice.
I think you only demand justice because the changes didnt go in your favour.
My point is that ANY changes will be in someone's favour, against others favour.
Restarting the server will **** off many people. Starting F16 will **** off even more.
There is no good solution now, the only good option is not to make things worse and stop fiddling with the game or people's efforts and funds.
Many aspect of this game is beyond the control of individual player. Only as team can win or lose.
Objectively i understand some people are not happy. But there will be MORE unhappy people with any of the proposed solutions. This world should play out as it is. EA can decide to compensate in rt or resource, i even can understand and accept they compensate all the other alliance but not us.
gods of nods would not stand a chance if it was fair from the start, and if it was the other way round and it was dream team that had the advantage then it would be you guys complaining, thats reality
im agree with kucharson about mistake what be done on starting a WCS server....
BUT... Firestorm is not a World Championship Serwer....
restrt and refund for firestorm are not possible you say...
playing a world with so much mistake are not fun anymore....
fair propose......
finish firestorm 15 and start stright away firestorm 16 without bugs
give to all people from firestorm 15 badges dosent matter alliance just a possition in rank
1-100 players badge nr 1
101-200 players badge nr 2
201-300 nr 3
301-400 nr 4
etc
> @aitite said:
> NIMST4R5; You are not only a bad player, but also a very stupid one.
> How can you say that you deserve the benefit you have because you destroyed bases of level + 12, + 13, + 14 + ... + 19 ??? That can be done by any alliance (obviously with those base levels you are going to drill 60 fields).
> However, we had my LatinC alliance compiled from the beginning:
> 1) We took the first jump and lost bubble (we had to put up defense - we lost hours for our B2)
> 2) We had to wait at least 18 hours to start attacking bases of level 19 and 20 (attacking in pairs with a minimum of 200 cp per account)
> 3) Many of our accounts died with a single attack due to the level of bases we had at the front.
> With this I make you understand that we also plan the most optimal way to drill.
> If we had been in a sector like yours, believe me that we would have obtained a POI level 32 after the configuration of E.A (I see your progress and they really make you laugh).
> So the most logical thing for all of us who are participating in the F15 server is to restart the server or start a new F16 !!
> Under equal competition for all.
> PDTA: We are not crying, we demand justice.
I think you only demand justice because the changes didnt go in your favour.
My point is that ANY changes will be in someone's favour, against others favour.
Restarting the server will **** off many people. Starting F16 will **** off even more.
There is no good solution now, the only good option is not to make things worse and stop fiddling with the game or people's efforts and funds.
Many aspect of this game is beyond the control of individual player. Only as team can win or lose.
Objectively i understand some people are not happy. But there will be MORE unhappy people with any of the proposed solutions. This world should play out as it is. EA can decide to compensate in rt or resource, i even can understand and accept they compensate all the other alliance but not us.
Glad you don't make any decisions and your points are useless with all the complains were made just when the game started. All is documented and we were the ones asking for a fair fix for all, not just a small group. But you want to know the real true? We are having this debate and so many ppl complaining because EA knows they messed up big time!
the only alliances with full players only 1 faction is EA FAUT ....some say s we are crying....pfff we are **** off because the big mess and be screw by the changes....
refund spend funds to evryone who did use and reset world. should have done it instead of just that maintanance.
the longer it takes the more will quit the world or the game in total
closing fs15 for new players will kill the world off anyways as soon as there is a newer world online. so i dont see it as an option more like a "lets avoid a shitstorm" move
everyone knows that THE RABBIT would have easily won F15 if the startup was fair, so i think its only right that all players in 'THE RABBIT' alliance should all be granted a 1st place badge!
EA, I saw your message from the game .. It seems like a good initiative on your part to want to solve this problem. The fairest option is the restart of the server with the same players (but I do not see bad that other players also enter). As I would have liked to be in a sector with bases level 8, 9 and 10. I am sure that with the update I would have received POIs level 40 and probably the whole server would have been claiming. but hey, publish the only solution: Let them continue playing the F15 (the deceived) and open the new F16 so that there is a real competition (please GDI vs NOD).
As you can see, it is being said that before some had an advantage, and now others have it. But of course, the world does not end in two weeks, following this approach about justice, it is fair to assume that within a week the changes will be reversed, and thus every week, to alternate the advantage and make it a fair and competitive world , it is right? Otherwise I do not see any kind of equanimity on your part, a week of disadvantage in exchange for continuing the server from that week with all the possible advantages (better bonuses, better basekills, less way to the center, what more could you want?).
Without this alternation in the advantage I do not see any sense to continue playing, at least on the side that is lost, I have bought the "Premium supply pack" of 20,000 funds and now it does not make sense to continue playing without any option to win.
You are talking about opening a new world, I am joining that one, but at least I would like to enjoy what I have left of the Pack, I don't want it all, but like any service, when it is interrupted it stops paying, and since the change you have made I have no desire to play.
My proposal is this: open F16 but to the players who are in F15 and we do not see sense to continue playing it, we are allowed to close the account in F15 and start in F16 with the remaining time of the capacities that we have paid (yes , paid, funds are money after all, it is simply the unified currency of the game). And those of us who do not want to continue for reasons beyond our control do not lose everything invested, the playing time, well, we have entertained ourselves, but what we have paid, it is not fair to lose it, it is practically a robbery.
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> And remember why we kick you from us?
> Simply because we respect tules GDI vs NOD your alliance no !
Kicking me was your first mistake yes. In a long line of mistakes that lead you to cry like baby on the forum now.
bin im N/O gestartet und habe sofort die kuppel verloren. man war gezwungen sofort eine Deff aufzubauen, also die Slots für VE und VZ zu verbrauchen, andere konnten diese für cash benutzen. gleichzeitig musste man einen erheblichen teil an Kris in die Deff stecken. andere konnten damit ihre off pushen. während man selbst sinnlos in machbare Basengebiete verlegen musste, somit verlege und Prodisperre generierte, konnten andere sofort in die Basen gehen. während man selbst sich an kleinen Basen hocharbeiten und 2 Wellenbereiche vermeiden musste, konnten andere sofort Forschungspunkte an größeren Basen farmen. es ist sicher seitens EA machbar nachzuvollziehen wer am ersten tag ohne verschulden den Schutz verloren hat. solche Spieler sollten entschädigt werden, haben sie doch ohne verschulden einen erheblichen Nachteil erlitten.
einfach auf einen kommenden Server zu verweisen ist recht billig und hebt den nachteil der betroffenen Spieler nicht auf.
hel
http://myprintscreen.com/s/1625856755.81047976.png
Asking respect the rules is not crying, who is cheating and is taking advantage of a big mistake of the developers is you and not us.
And now you want also refund?
Unreal!
Yes you can have refound but if they close F15 and open F16 with same players.
Otherwise it's another scam.
NIMST4R5; You are not only a bad player, but also a very stupid one.
How can you say that you deserve the benefit you have because you destroyed bases of level + 12, + 13, + 14 + ... + 19 ??? That can be done by any alliance (obviously with those base levels you are going to drill 60 fields).
However, we had my LatinC alliance compiled from the beginning:
1) We took the first jump and lost bubble (we had to put up defense - we lost hours for our B2)
2) We had to wait at least 18 hours to start attacking bases of level 19 and 20 (attacking in pairs with a minimum of 200 cp per account)
3) Many of our accounts died with a single attack due to the level of bases we had at the front.
With this I make you understand that we also plan the most optimal way to drill.
If we had been in a sector like yours, believe me that we would have obtained a POI level 32 after the configuration of E.A (I see your progress and they really make you laugh).
So the most logical thing for all of us who are participating in the F15 server is to restart the server or start a new F16 !!
Under equal competition for all.
PDTA: We are not crying, we demand justice.
Last WCS started also with a bug where you was able to buy Repair Time. You restarted the server and gave funds back for it, leaving limits added.
Could you do something similar to a firestorm? You got logs data etc. I completely understand that will cost you some work, but for mistakes sometimes you have to pay.
If you want to make people happy I think this is only one option to do.
> http://myprintscreen.com/s/1625856755.81047976.png
>
> Asking respect the rules is not crying, who is cheating and is taking advantage of a big mistake of the developers is you and not us.
>
> And now you want also refund?
> Unreal!
> Yes you can have refound but if they close F15 and open F16 with same players.
> Otherwise it's another scam.
I dont want any refund or any compensation. But I can understand some player want it.
Yes you kicked me, because you thought another GDI player can be better.
But now you know it was a mistake.
You play a game with the other players, you dont care, only care yourself. This is clear now for everyone to see
It was a wrong start from the beginning because it was supposed to be a one faction alliance to begin with and also all the complains about bubble drop and high bases in one sector and not in another sector were wrote down as complains so please don't come here talking non-sense. It was a big mess from the beginning. Shutdown F15 or keep it just for 1 alliance so they can farm freely their 1st badge and let's have a F16 with real players that want a fair game for all. Hopefully 1 faction alliance will work on F16!!!
> NIMST4R5; You are not only a bad player, but also a very stupid one.
> How can you say that you deserve the benefit you have because you destroyed bases of level + 12, + 13, + 14 + ... + 19 ??? That can be done by any alliance (obviously with those base levels you are going to drill 60 fields).
> However, we had my LatinC alliance compiled from the beginning:
> 1) We took the first jump and lost bubble (we had to put up defense - we lost hours for our B2)
> 2) We had to wait at least 18 hours to start attacking bases of level 19 and 20 (attacking in pairs with a minimum of 200 cp per account)
> 3) Many of our accounts died with a single attack due to the level of bases we had at the front.
> With this I make you understand that we also plan the most optimal way to drill.
> If we had been in a sector like yours, believe me that we would have obtained a POI level 32 after the configuration of E.A (I see your progress and they really make you laugh).
> So the most logical thing for all of us who are participating in the F15 server is to restart the server or start a new F16 !!
> Under equal competition for all.
> PDTA: We are not crying, we demand justice.
I think you only demand justice because the changes didnt go in your favour.
My point is that ANY changes will be in someone's favour, against others favour.
Restarting the server will **** off many people. Starting F16 will **** off even more.
There is no good solution now, the only good option is not to make things worse and stop fiddling with the game or people's efforts and funds.
Many aspect of this game is beyond the control of individual player. Only as team can win or lose.
Objectively i understand some people are not happy. But there will be MORE unhappy people with any of the proposed solutions. This world should play out as it is. EA can decide to compensate in rt or resource, i even can understand and accept they compensate all the other alliance but not us.
BUT... Firestorm is not a World Championship Serwer....
restrt and refund for firestorm are not possible you say...
playing a world with so much mistake are not fun anymore....
fair propose......
finish firestorm 15 and start stright away firestorm 16 without bugs
give to all people from firestorm 15 badges dosent matter alliance just a possition in rank
1-100 players badge nr 1
101-200 players badge nr 2
201-300 nr 3
301-400 nr 4
etc
that should be fair.... i think
Glad you don't make any decisions and your points are useless with all the complains were made just when the game started. All is documented and we were the ones asking for a fair fix for all, not just a small group. But you want to know the real true? We are having this debate and so many ppl complaining because EA knows they messed up big time!
should have done it instead of just that maintanance.
the longer it takes the more will quit the world or the game in total
closing fs15 for new players will kill the world off anyways as soon as there is a newer world online.
so i dont see it as an option more like a "lets avoid a shitstorm" move
thanks
As you can see, it is being said that before some had an advantage, and now others have it. But of course, the world does not end in two weeks, following this approach about justice, it is fair to assume that within a week the changes will be reversed, and thus every week, to alternate the advantage and make it a fair and competitive world , it is right? Otherwise I do not see any kind of equanimity on your part, a week of disadvantage in exchange for continuing the server from that week with all the possible advantages (better bonuses, better basekills, less way to the center, what more could you want?).
Without this alternation in the advantage I do not see any sense to continue playing, at least on the side that is lost, I have bought the "Premium supply pack" of 20,000 funds and now it does not make sense to continue playing without any option to win.
You are talking about opening a new world, I am joining that one, but at least I would like to enjoy what I have left of the Pack, I don't want it all, but like any service, when it is interrupted it stops paying, and since the change you have made I have no desire to play.
My proposal is this: open F16 but to the players who are in F15 and we do not see sense to continue playing it, we are allowed to close the account in F15 and start in F16 with the remaining time of the capacities that we have paid (yes , paid, funds are money after all, it is simply the unified currency of the game). And those of us who do not want to continue for reasons beyond our control do not lose everything invested, the playing time, well, we have entertained ourselves, but what we have paid, it is not fair to lose it, it is practically a robbery.
All the best,
Charluman.