first of all i never played a wcs under koegy, you bird, only under nvidia and also a third badge i never got. Who are you anyway, no pig knows you, but you talk as if you are a fortune teller
besides, there is never anything said against koegy his performance. personally i say koegy is the best in the game but he doesn't feel like playing so what should we do, cry and stop playing?
koegy is not the best in the game, top ten maybe not best, but thats also only from the point of view of average players who dont understand the full scope of skills required to win server after server against the best.
there are many who still want to play and that's why we will start, as I said it will be very difficult. But was it different for ttd against schaffa? No, ttd also had bad cards and still they played the last WCS
t44 was the last wcs ttd finished 6 levels too slow because they did not focus all strength forward and spread out seeking to gain advantage through multiabuse. in t44 they looked to bruel for speed guidance and spent the next year or so inviting all the skilled members around to learn from everyone that is considered great. this is the real problem with this game, it takes so bloody long to get ahead of the curve the average player wont ever truly understand the entire process, and the stale meta will only serve those that have had the time and freedom to explore it.
yes as i said it will be a surprise for all of us except for project what happens. it will be the first WCS without the big champs from nvidia and schaffa
Their will be a few alliances I think may make a decent run at it.an the excuses for not playing .is just an excuse bring. freddy krueger on or however he spells or whomever .
yes as i said it will be a surprise for all of us except for project what happens. it will be the first WCS without the big champs from nvidia and schaffa
im not sure thats true, this time last year most of the gold badged lpayers were active, and mind the misspelling there but its not entirely wrong sometimes...
and as an aside
just because someone says they wont play it doesnt mean they wont because there is some perceived advantage. thats just the excuse they are going with now if in fact they do know they will lose after the first day. i believe everyone will make an appearance and it will be interesting to see which beginning strategy they go with this time. the last few servers project ttd were doing great but they didnt have a way to compare the teams against even strength competition and leader/ players. i dont think the sides are too uneven anymore it will be a lot closer and more exciting than ever before and i applaud project for taking the time and initiative to field a proper challenge to the current wcs regimen, the missing dynamic in this reasoning is everyone else, the regular folk with no chance at racing to middle alone and winning against project and what they decide to do.
project can and should field a team in every sector possible. focus only on alts in the enemy sector and stick to a tight tunnel from the first hour on. top poi server wide should be fluently donated as required to the top team. the wings on either side of main to reduce waves of FA and protect farms and a strong team 2 with many alts plugging holes along side to secure poi and aide in any needed poi transfers.
more often than not i see inactivity non participation and neutral indifference. the guidance and motivation for regular players to participate and see the effects they can have on the environment just dont exist in the current meta. any alliance can hinder and win battles against a top team.
if there was a way to turn this game into a time machine and stop it at a point where everyone is established and near even strengths right before a large war and then keep replaying those few days from start to finish. see if the outcome is the same and which tactics worked. the most exciting time in a server and it rarely if ever happens anymore. it would be cool if any alliance could come along gain control of 4 hubs while the top 2 teams were fighting and shoot the fort in one coordinated assault. if the ability to destroy the fort did not rely on collecting all poi securing the entire center and all hubs building up for weeks and collecting fallen sat codes. if debris fields fell regularly effecting the battlefields and enabled quick code collection giving more teams the ability to approach and steal the kill.
I honestly don't understand all this talk, we have been fighting in WCS for years against shaffa mara nvidia etc.
We have lost because of our opponents but also because of our mistakes, now we have built a team capable of playing as protagonists and all against us........but does anyone have any idea what it has meant for us to build this team in the last two years?
Putting together people with different skills, having people on the same team who have played for years as Cic and now won't be anymore, following the players, in some cases teaching them the game etc etc. Now everyone is good about speaking out against us, but who has done the same?
If shaffa decides to play they are welcome, sure we won't cry if they are better than us, but honestly reading all these things "against" project without even having asked yourself "why did they do it?", "why did TTD and AB + others decide to play together" ?.........try to ask yourself how much time you spent building alliances to put your "ego" aside to try to fight shaffa......
We have, there are people here who have thought about not only playing for a badge but building a strong alliance.
Now we will play, we can lose, win or dominate as some say, but we sure have worked to have the team we have, the rest is just Forum talk.
i don't think anyone questions what you have built up over the last 2 years. it takes a lot to do that.
but that's also a "little problem" at the same time. when you start a server, it's with the entire alliance. that scares off a lot of other players because your sheer number of accounts crushes everyone else.
other alliances start with 40 - 60 players and you with 200 - 300. there is the motivation right at the beginning over. you could say the 4th place is the new 1st, when you are at the start.
i think that's the biggest problem we have here. especially since there aren't enough new worlds to keep you from running into each other ;-)
I´m so sick of reading "we have worked so hard", "its just Forum talk" and so an.
Again -> you are the only group of players using 100´s of alt´s.
So stop talking and start playing like all the other guys.
dont hate them cause you aint them. this game has always had a culture of players using whatever means available to gain an advantage. id prefer playing in a server without them too but those dont exist yet.
I´m so sick of reading "we have worked so hard", "its just Forum talk" and so an.
Again -> you are the only group of players using 100´s of alt´s.
So stop talking and start playing like all the other guys.
dont hate them cause you aint them. this game has always had a culture of players using whatever means available to gain an advantage. id prefer playing in a server without them too but those dont exist yet.
Ofc you are right - but there is a difference between using 1-2 alts at the beginning (layout/path into the bases) and what the project guys like Ganja are doing. Its a different level.
Everybody (with the exception of @EE_Elephterion ) know that we need more servers. Unfortunately that will not happen - bad for the future of the game.
I´m so sick of reading "we have worked so hard", "its just Forum talk" and so an.
Again -> you are the only group of players using 100´s of alt´s.
So stop talking and start playing like all the other guys.
dont hate them cause you aint them. this game has always had a culture of players using whatever means available to gain an advantage. id prefer playing in a server without them too but those dont exist yet.
Ofc you are right - but there is a difference between using 1-2 alts at the beginning (layout/path into the bases) and what the project guys like Ganja are doing. Its a different level.
Everybody (with the exception of @EE_Elephterion ) know that we need more servers. Unfortunately that will not happen - bad for the future of the game.
theres lots of servers an the opportunity to "win" still exists in may of them. what you want specifically is to be able to have a chance at earning a number 1 badge without having to play with the same 2 teams full of people on every server. we all know this and may of us want the same opportunity and to tell you the truth, most competitive people want to win often and dominantly. the real problem is the lack of effort everyone wants to put in to win a number 1 badge. ive been on plenty of servers with 10+ full alliances and never once seen one ( with the exception of war pigs in f14 i believe ) EVER TRY to unseat the #1 alliance using pvp and diplomacy at an appropriate stage in growth. unfortunately it just doesnt work when 50% or more of the player base in any particular server is on one side. literally no players left in this game like pvp and if they say they do i know they are lying because they dont ever do it. im telling you if there was only 1 badge per server we would see a completely different outcome almost every time and real teams would likely begin to form and not only that but stay loyal and it would not detract at all from the diplomacy aspect of the game because cooperation can extend past one particular play environment and into the next servers. while i agree that allowing the current meta to continue unchanged for so long is unhealthy, i dont think starting more servers all at once is an appropriate answer because all that would do is allow some players that would not otherwise reach center first do so without the challenge of competing against tougher competition. i mean cmon we can keep firing em off until everyone has their own server to win but just ask project how fun it is to play alone.
maybe Project will play fair and without alts, I mean they want to be a champ and not multi champ ^^
Keep on dreaming! They have no interest in fair play! Guys like Ganja + Sannahopea have no clue at all how to play with less than 10 accounts.
go look at how dead fs15 is lol, ttd/project rules at removing competition.
TTD/Project?
This is untrue, TTD played alone against a group of project + other players and it was a server with Pvp.
Project not started this world.
It was a server with many setup errors and even with an "immortal" player base for a bug. What competition did ttd/project remove? Sometimes here we talk without really knowing how things are.
maybe Project will play fair and without alts, I mean they want to be a champ and not multi champ ^^
Keep on dreaming! They have no interest in fair play! Guys like Ganja + Sannahopea have no clue at all how to play with less than 10 accounts.
go look at how dead fs15 is lol, ttd/project rules at removing competition.
TTD/Project?
This is untrue, TTD played alone against a group of project + other players and it was a server with Pvp.
Project not started this world.
It was a server with many setup errors and even with an "immortal" player base for a bug. What competition did ttd/project remove? Sometimes here we talk without really knowing how things are.
my point was ttd/ project members, technically the same team now, are getting good at emptying servers. so go look at fs 15 and tell me that it is in fact not a dead server and my statements are untrue. dont try blaming the devs mistake on why nobody wants to stick around with ttd and project on a server, this isnt an argument its a fact that has repeated itself more than once. go back and look at every server ttd ever won. they are all dead because ttd always plays them the exact same way. there are way less fort kills on those servers because they make one giant team out of all the competitive players. ttd isnt to blame really though its development for keeping the meta stale for so long. they talk about not wanting to roll back changes so people dont exploit but this game is turning into one big exploit, exploiting the fact that pvp is not a viable strategy for advancement or domination thereby allowing the players with the most unchanging eco knowledge and experience to be ahead and stay ahead right from the start every single time. groups like latin crazy, crazy machine, angry birds all serve ttd now in the interest of just being able to shoot a fort after, they arent even teams anymore. there are no teams left and i got to watch most of the progression of f15 and your version of pvp is just straight bullying ive never seen even strength pvp from anyone in this game before. sometimes here we try to defend ourselves without really admitting how things are....
Again?
Just a list of server who TTD won....
tib 6 8 FF Done
Tib 23 11 FF done
Tib 32 11 FF done
Tib 37 13 FF done
Fir 14 15 FF done
Fir 15 2 FF done
Others won by project like Tib 49 51
We lock some server? We not give all chance to take badge?
We can't play all servers for 20 FF, we never thwarted anyone after winning, we defended sister and allies and then we left.
The funny thing is that reading here it seems that nobody wants to play with us (Project and/or TTD), in every server we have dozens if not hundreds of requests, sometimes we get people sometimes not.
It's funny that a lot of people here say we already won the Wcs and that's why they don't participate talking about alts and stuff. Instead of complaining make a team with 0 or 200 alts....but play.
ps many people speak against Ganja and sannahopea without even having played with them, assuming that it is enough to have 10 alts to build a superaccount but it is not so ........
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lets have a proper go
thats iggy you are talking to there witt
koegy is not the best in the game, top ten maybe not best, but thats also only from the point of view of average players who dont understand the full scope of skills required to win server after server against the best.
no wonder then
t44 was the last wcs ttd finished 6 levels too slow because they did not focus all strength forward and spread out seeking to gain advantage through multiabuse. in t44 they looked to bruel for speed guidance and spent the next year or so inviting all the skilled members around to learn from everyone that is considered great. this is the real problem with this game, it takes so bloody long to get ahead of the curve the average player wont ever truly understand the entire process, and the stale meta will only serve those that have had the time and freedom to explore it.
yes as i said it will be a surprise for all of us except for project what happens. it will be the first WCS without the big champs from nvidia and schaffa
im not sure thats true, this time last year most of the gold badged lpayers were active, and mind the misspelling there but its not entirely wrong sometimes...
and as an aside
just because someone says they wont play it doesnt mean they wont because there is some perceived advantage. thats just the excuse they are going with now if in fact they do know they will lose after the first day. i believe everyone will make an appearance and it will be interesting to see which beginning strategy they go with this time. the last few servers project ttd were doing great but they didnt have a way to compare the teams against even strength competition and leader/ players. i dont think the sides are too uneven anymore it will be a lot closer and more exciting than ever before and i applaud project for taking the time and initiative to field a proper challenge to the current wcs regimen, the missing dynamic in this reasoning is everyone else, the regular folk with no chance at racing to middle alone and winning against project and what they decide to do.
project can and should field a team in every sector possible. focus only on alts in the enemy sector and stick to a tight tunnel from the first hour on. top poi server wide should be fluently donated as required to the top team. the wings on either side of main to reduce waves of FA and protect farms and a strong team 2 with many alts plugging holes along side to secure poi and aide in any needed poi transfers.
more often than not i see inactivity non participation and neutral indifference. the guidance and motivation for regular players to participate and see the effects they can have on the environment just dont exist in the current meta. any alliance can hinder and win battles against a top team.
if there was a way to turn this game into a time machine and stop it at a point where everyone is established and near even strengths right before a large war and then keep replaying those few days from start to finish. see if the outcome is the same and which tactics worked. the most exciting time in a server and it rarely if ever happens anymore. it would be cool if any alliance could come along gain control of 4 hubs while the top 2 teams were fighting and shoot the fort in one coordinated assault. if the ability to destroy the fort did not rely on collecting all poi securing the entire center and all hubs building up for weeks and collecting fallen sat codes. if debris fields fell regularly effecting the battlefields and enabled quick code collection giving more teams the ability to approach and steal the kill.
We have lost because of our opponents but also because of our mistakes, now we have built a team capable of playing as protagonists and all against us........but does anyone have any idea what it has meant for us to build this team in the last two years?
Putting together people with different skills, having people on the same team who have played for years as Cic and now won't be anymore, following the players, in some cases teaching them the game etc etc. Now everyone is good about speaking out against us, but who has done the same?
If shaffa decides to play they are welcome, sure we won't cry if they are better than us, but honestly reading all these things "against" project without even having asked yourself "why did they do it?", "why did TTD and AB + others decide to play together" ?.........try to ask yourself how much time you spent building alliances to put your "ego" aside to try to fight shaffa......
We have, there are people here who have thought about not only playing for a badge but building a strong alliance.
Now we will play, we can lose, win or dominate as some say, but we sure have worked to have the team we have, the rest is just Forum talk.
i don't think anyone questions what you have built up over the last 2 years. it takes a lot to do that.
but that's also a "little problem" at the same time. when you start a server, it's with the entire alliance. that scares off a lot of other players because your sheer number of accounts crushes everyone else.
other alliances start with 40 - 60 players and you with 200 - 300. there is the motivation right at the beginning over. you could say the 4th place is the new 1st, when you are at the start.
i think that's the biggest problem we have here. especially since there aren't enough new worlds to keep you from running into each other ;-)
greetings
Again -> you are the only group of players using 100´s of alt´s.
So stop talking and start playing like all the other guys.
dont hate them cause you aint them. this game has always had a culture of players using whatever means available to gain an advantage. id prefer playing in a server without them too but those dont exist yet.
maybe Project will play fair and without alts, I mean they want to be a champ and not multi champ ^^
Keep on dreaming! They have no interest in fair play! Guys like Ganja + Sannahopea have no clue at all how to play with less than 10 accounts.
Ofc you are right - but there is a difference between using 1-2 alts at the beginning (layout/path into the bases) and what the project guys like Ganja are doing. Its a different level.
Everybody (with the exception of @EE_Elephterion ) know that we need more servers. Unfortunately that will not happen - bad for the future of the game.
theres lots of servers an the opportunity to "win" still exists in may of them. what you want specifically is to be able to have a chance at earning a number 1 badge without having to play with the same 2 teams full of people on every server. we all know this and may of us want the same opportunity and to tell you the truth, most competitive people want to win often and dominantly. the real problem is the lack of effort everyone wants to put in to win a number 1 badge. ive been on plenty of servers with 10+ full alliances and never once seen one ( with the exception of war pigs in f14 i believe ) EVER TRY to unseat the #1 alliance using pvp and diplomacy at an appropriate stage in growth. unfortunately it just doesnt work when 50% or more of the player base in any particular server is on one side. literally no players left in this game like pvp and if they say they do i know they are lying because they dont ever do it. im telling you if there was only 1 badge per server we would see a completely different outcome almost every time and real teams would likely begin to form and not only that but stay loyal and it would not detract at all from the diplomacy aspect of the game because cooperation can extend past one particular play environment and into the next servers. while i agree that allowing the current meta to continue unchanged for so long is unhealthy, i dont think starting more servers all at once is an appropriate answer because all that would do is allow some players that would not otherwise reach center first do so without the challenge of competing against tougher competition. i mean cmon we can keep firing em off until everyone has their own server to win but just ask project how fun it is to play alone.
go look at how dead fs15 is lol, ttd/project rules at removing competition.
TTD/Project?
This is untrue, TTD played alone against a group of project + other players and it was a server with Pvp.
Project not started this world.
It was a server with many setup errors and even with an "immortal" player base for a bug. What competition did ttd/project remove? Sometimes here we talk without really knowing how things are.
my point was ttd/ project members, technically the same team now, are getting good at emptying servers. so go look at fs 15 and tell me that it is in fact not a dead server and my statements are untrue. dont try blaming the devs mistake on why nobody wants to stick around with ttd and project on a server, this isnt an argument its a fact that has repeated itself more than once. go back and look at every server ttd ever won. they are all dead because ttd always plays them the exact same way. there are way less fort kills on those servers because they make one giant team out of all the competitive players. ttd isnt to blame really though its development for keeping the meta stale for so long. they talk about not wanting to roll back changes so people dont exploit but this game is turning into one big exploit, exploiting the fact that pvp is not a viable strategy for advancement or domination thereby allowing the players with the most unchanging eco knowledge and experience to be ahead and stay ahead right from the start every single time. groups like latin crazy, crazy machine, angry birds all serve ttd now in the interest of just being able to shoot a fort after, they arent even teams anymore. there are no teams left and i got to watch most of the progression of f15 and your version of pvp is just straight bullying ive never seen even strength pvp from anyone in this game before. sometimes here we try to defend ourselves without really admitting how things are....
Just a list of server who TTD won....
tib 6 8 FF Done
Tib 23 11 FF done
Tib 32 11 FF done
Tib 37 13 FF done
Fir 14 15 FF done
Fir 15 2 FF done
Others won by project like Tib 49 51
We lock some server? We not give all chance to take badge?
We can't play all servers for 20 FF, we never thwarted anyone after winning, we defended sister and allies and then we left.
The funny thing is that reading here it seems that nobody wants to play with us (Project and/or TTD), in every server we have dozens if not hundreds of requests, sometimes we get people sometimes not.
It's funny that a lot of people here say we already won the Wcs and that's why they don't participate talking about alts and stuff. Instead of complaining make a team with 0 or 200 alts....but play.
ps many people speak against Ganja and sannahopea without even having played with them, assuming that it is enough to have 10 alts to build a superaccount but it is not so ........