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DeadlyShow · September 20, 2023 8:22PM

@EE_kalyn
2 questions:
The screenshots are cut off from the bottom, so not very clear.
Also the defense layouts are missing.
1. Could you post the full cncopts or screenshots with defense layouts seen?
( I managed to find the first one (World 100 starting layout)
https://spy-cnc.fr/CNC/bi/cnclv/layout/afMQ )

2. Please clarify if morale setting going to be +4 or +7 ?
+4 is basically unplayable, hope you do not have to change settings after the server starts

gamerdruid · September 20, 2023 9:53PM

The only information I have is that the layouts are from existing worlds. It could be any world out of the 400 plus (I believe that is the number of worlds). They may not be existing starting first layouts, they are suggested ones for the WCS 2023 however.

EE_kalyn · September 21, 2023 12:55PM

what gamerdruid says. Also, the final moral settings are not decided yet.

kOeGyY · September 21, 2023 1:15PM

oh, not final? When there are the double amount of pois, maybe a 7ish malus would fit better, then u can "hunt" the bigger pois and dont fall behind because killing bases is not that inefficient then on 4 level malus

SpeirFein · September 22, 2023 12:37AM

@EE_kalyn

Could you clarify double the POIs?

Does this mean double the number of POIs or the bonus of POIs is doubled?

gamerdruid · September 22, 2023 4:04PM

As English isn't the first language for some, I can understand the need for clarification. The announcement says the number of POI's double so that would, in English only mean one thing ie that the count of POI's is 2 x the normal count.

However, clarification would always be welcome from @EE_kalyn

EE_kalyn · September 25, 2023 9:51AM

Correct! Double amount of POIs means that the number of POIs is doubled (2x the normal count).

kOeGyY · September 26, 2023 9:47PM

will you announce which malus it will be before start, or will it be more or less a surprise?

Uub666 · September 29, 2023 4:59AM

I think 4 morale is the best setup, we don't want to be finished in 3 months. normal worlds are hard but WCS is easy? does not make sense

RebootBart · September 29, 2023 5:06AM

Yep i am with uub +4 morale or something between both, don't do like fire 21 but not easy, the wcs should be a real fight

Sniper2647 · September 29, 2023 5:49AM

Out of curiosity, are 4 and 7 malus the only options, or could it be somewhere in between, like 5? Because 7 malus was designed for Forgotten Attacks worlds, since having to build high defense on bases instead of putting all crystal into your army already slows the world down. So high malus + FA would make the world take too long.

But if there are no Forgotten Attacks, 7 seems like it would be too fast. Also, 7 is not high enough to prevent multi-accounting, the malus needs to be higher to really reduce the effectiveness of this tactic.

b97cbae3213388ee · September 29, 2023 12:52PM

Sniper2647 wrote: »

Out of curiosity, are 4 and 7 malus the only options, or could it be somewhere in between, like 5? Because 7 malus was designed for Forgotten Attacks worlds, since having to build high defense on bases instead of putting all crystal into your army already slows the world down. So high malus + FA would make the world take too long.

But if there are no Forgotten Attacks, 7 seems like it would be too fast. Also, 7 is not high enough to prevent multi-accounting, the malus needs to be higher to really reduce the effectiveness of this tactic.

High malus slows progression with attacks activated since the pace makes forgotten attacks worse. So yea, I agree strategies have to change in such an environment.

KoalaBear1 · September 29, 2023 3:26PM

Agree, 7 malus is too low making it an alt-exploit haven. We all know what happened last WCS. Most of the community came together to boycott the server. A 5 morale setting will make it difficult to use alt exploits while allowing players to move to the center a little faster compared to 4.

tokenting · September 30, 2023 8:30AM

@EE_kalyn As the game itself is coming to an end and this will probably be the last WCS people will play, please can you arrange for the winning team to have a POI named after them. Thank you.

Maybe go for the Uranium.

b97cbae3213388ee · September 30, 2023 11:36AM

The game is a bit more resilient I think and the general environment is healthier than in the past. And as a result i suspect participation is up recently.
I think it will stick around for a while.

Psycho_x_Reborn · October 1, 2023 5:00PM

what is the point of playing the WCS? Bruell has gone, sannahoppea has retired, there will be no competition, it will be a koegy fan club server.

tokenting · October 2, 2023 8:15AM

Psycho_x_Reborn wrote: »

what is the point of playing the WCS? Bruell has gone, sannahoppea has retired, there will be no competition, it will be a koegy fan club server.

i think there might be a game this time from what im hearing...

EE_kalyn · October 2, 2023 8:48AM

tokenting wrote: »

@EE_kalyn As the game itself is coming to an end and this will probably be the last WCS people will play, please can you arrange for the winning team to have a POI named after them. Thank you.

Maybe go for the Uranium.

I see what I can do.

Edit: By the way, the game is NOT coming to an end. Please do not spread false information here. Thanks.

Nudlaug0815 · October 5, 2023 1:51PM

Well, malus 7 will be a lot quicker, especially because malus also rises less quick. Alts can be used at that setting quite for a long time though, thats right.

Malus 4 is a very special setting, taking a lot of time, knowledge and effort. New eco was built for that setting, you can feel it. I'd still prefer malus 4, because malus is punishing you hard raising 20% per level (as far as i know, maybe 15%^^), no quickies. Double the POIs is actually a smart idea I think, making "luck" a bit less of a factor.

Something "new" like malus 5 with the punishing rising setting from malus 4 would probably be interesting, enabling to switch to the next tunnel more quickly, reducing the overall time, but still needing a lot of insight for longterm eco and main. But farming would be brutal at malus 5 i guess. :D

m4 or m5, my 2 cents. m7 is a bit too easy without FA for the best battling

6ixtrojans · October 5, 2023 4:37PM

For crying out loud, it's the World Freaking Championship Server. Make it competitive with malus 4 so it takes real skill to play. If guys want to play with alts, there are plenty of non-championship worlds for that.

b97cbae3213388ee · October 6, 2023 12:04PM

I think alts are a thing anywhere....
A net of control?

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