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1. Someone who runs cover 4 dime shouldnt be able to shut down the run for the whole game You literally have some linemen and dBacks.If I'm running a 46 bear, running backs shouidnt he able to run it up them middle for 6 and 7 years for THE WHOLE GAME. My linebacker shouldnt be able to keep up with Tarik Cohen ... it needs to make sense

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  • OhnOiTZdaSniper
    48 posts Member
    edited December 2019
    It’s not the game it’s the players. If you adjust and ID the correct people the run is Un stoppable. If your opponent is adding trainers and glitches it’s kinda not fun anymore.

    Slanting linemen are any coaches worst nightmare. *tip : if you slant your linemen right and then slant them again out your nose tackle will slant the direction of the first slant adjustment so you’re not leaving that Same gap wide open *

    PS cover 4 is intended to stop outside runs. So if your not IDing anyone and you don’t know which is your run gap on defense and your opponent does. Well... common man.
  • cover4 isnt meant to stop outside runs in football
  • Have you read the tutorials sir? That’s a good place to start. Then maybe having coached and learned from a serious coach may help. Then also listening to those people who have been coached or do coach may be good advice as well.
  • How long have you been playing madden? These issues are Legacy problems that have always existed on this gen console and the previous ones.
    Coaching and tutorials have nothing to do with ai controlled players skipping frames in animations to start new ones because they're out of position.
    The fact that you suggested cover4 to stop runs says a whole lot about this game. As my topic requests, make it make football sense
  • Well good luck sir. Maybe one day you open your mind when you ask for help.
  • OhnOiTZdaSniper
    48 posts Member
    edited December 2019
    There is nothing wrong with madden. Momentum is real yeah. People cheat sure. People use glitches and money plays and nanos. Whatever. EA has used momentum to eliminate these problems. If you get your stick skills up higher the anti cheating software, already built into Live, will give you your momentum and destroy their cheating butts.

    Back to the cover 4 to stop Out Side runs just do some research. It’s all about what flat you have the backers on and their first step. People must run outside on you a lot huh?
  • Have you read the tutorials sir? That’s a good place to start. Then maybe having coached and learned from a serious coach may help. Then also listening to those people who have been coached or do coach may be good advice as well.

    Madden tutorials are not going to teach you football lol
  • EA_Blueberry
    1415 posts EA Community Manager
    @therealsmartboy

    Have you tried using 3-4 Odd Edge Blitz 1? Check out this video.

    3-4 Even Pinch Buck 0 is also another good one. Here's the other clip
  • Putting your middle line backer on a curl flat/cloud flat and blitzing your outside backer is good also. Alternatively Having a saftey on a hook curl helps. You just have to adjust the top side of your cover four to a cover 9. 3-4 cv 4. Is it though guys. I don’t get ran on outside. Say what you will. Just learn your adjustments. If your trying 4-3 cv 4 no that won’t work.
  • OhnOiTZdaSniper
    48 posts Member
    edited December 2019
    @therealsmartboy

    Have you tried using 3-4 Odd Edge Blitz 1? Check out this video.

    3-4 Even Pinch Buck 0 is also another good one. Here's the other clip

    Even is a good front. I love it. But I usually only want to use it on the left hash. Unless you are flipping the play or blitzing strong. Even is the one front that doesn’t carry cv 4. Also The over front works well on the left hash and you can Blitz weak to stop weak side runs. Safety blitzes work well to stop the run. If you are worried about the pass then put that safety on a hook curl and he’ll still run stuff.
    I would use the under front and blitz the strong side until they are on the right hash. then I would blitz the weak side with the under front from the right hash. Studying fronts will allow you to see the under front forces the run weak. So blitzing strong is dominating. Once on the right hash Alternativley use the even front and SS scrape. Flip it back and use SS snake. Figure out which front force the run which way and mix up your blitzes and mix your saftey drops/blitzes. Remember hook curl stops runs good. Middle line backers on cloud and curl flats stops the run good ( put the middle backer on a curl flat then Adjust coverage down then back up and he’ll be on a cloud flat A very unique first step to stop the run. Don’t forget to put your boundary side outside linebacker on a seam flat after this adjustment and middle read the jack. ) Scrap your SS and outside backer, outside quarter your CB’s and you’ll have no problem with Outside runs. Inside runs are different right. That’s why pinch buck anything looses to wing tight dive plays if you can read the gaps.
    You can use buzz 3 but outside quarter your cornerbacks and middle read the middle backer on the same side as your hook curl saftey and user the opposite curl flat with the jack or corner back.

    Also it helps if you know what your gap is. Bring up coverage and the press X to show your gap. Fill it with your user then switch players and make the conservative tackle.

    Good luck guys.
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  • none of that matters if the CPU is augmenting or diminishing character animations bro
  • I've been playing madden for quite some time and I'm pretty sure I've ran nearly every playbook to be ran. What I am critiquing is the gameplay. The gameplay, or, lack thereof. I can guarantee that when the game is fueling off of whatever momentum system it functions off of, no amount of tips etc will result in a successful play on defense or offense. Why is this? Because when the game is trending in an opponents directions, your ai players won't respond to whatever presnap adjustments you've made. If they do manage to go to whatever area, all of their animations in that instance will be nerfed. They will literally stand there and not interact with the ball or ball carrier.
    What's worse, your user controlled player will be affected by this dynamic. Regardless of either you press square/x or triangle/y, no interception attempt or even swat attempt will trigger. There are literally tons of footage online that highlights this. I have games where my whole defensive line will simultaneously be pancaked on run plays .. exact same motion/animation for all for linemen.
    If this game was consistent with it's own mechanics and physics, all of the aforementioned things would be helpful
  • Furthermore, the cpu/momentum is so bad, people are able to play QUARTERS and DIME the whole game and shutdown runs when the cpu is trending towards their success in that match, but on the side of the ball, someone can run a bear defense and still get gutted up the middle consistently. It doesnt make football sense.

    The game is entirely to depended upon animations and those animations are solely depended upon the momentum in the game..

    For instance, the other day, I consistently chased down Lamar Jackson with Aikeem Hicks in a spy... how was this possible? Well the cpu made sure I couldn't lose- for whatever reason..
    This isnt football
  • and to be clear, I'm not talking about cheaters or nanos. I'm strictly referring to the ai in the game. If you dont think there is anything wrong with players being slid into position or all manner of nonsensical animations controlling the game then I don't know what to tell you lol
  • OhnOiTZdaSniper
    48 posts Member
    edited December 2019
    Have you tried holding LT before you hit the tackle or ball hawk mechanic? Never hold RT while you try to ball hawk or tackle. They changed the timing drastically this year. If your settings are different after a game you won’t ball hawk as aggressively. Trust me I know exactly what your talking about sir. But skills remove those issues. AI trends towards the more skilled player hands down.
    Tell your theory out to kmak or pro b that only have a handful of losses in MUT. I used to be you until I figure out the mechanics this year. Three finger combos are key here guys. If you can’t flicker the triggers and time a ball hawk you ain’t getting one. If your settings are set to ball hawk and you are playing your zone yes they will leap. You have to straff into position then press nothing but ball hawk. You have to straff in front of the defender then up on left stick (or in the direction of the ball and only ball hawk. No RT on accident or you know what happens? Nothing hahahah If you are streaking down the sideline with a receiver you have to hold RT and Y to get the ball hawk. Turn your auto straff Off bud. You have to be able to chose when to do it. I get what your saying but it’s you not the game. I don’t deal with this anymore once I got it. We can play a friendly if you want?

    This is a post script but also if you check and compare the zone abilities of you line backers you might also see why they won’t react to the ball hahha wink wink. Go with Urlacher shazier bullock and bell for coverage and then Lanier Miller Taylor shazier for run stuff pash rush.

    As for DE’s chasing down Lamar. Look for DE that have excellent play Rec speed and man coverage. (When you spy he is man to man with the QB get it? A spied DE Josh Allen for the Jaguars is chasing Lamar down guaranteed. His speeed man and play Rec are insane. Plus he’s super human tall and can catch.
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  • OhnOiTZdaSniper
    48 posts Member
    edited December 2019
    none of that matters if the CPU is augmenting or diminishing character animations bro

    Did anyone else hear the Madden NFL announcer make a madden reference during the saints 49ers game this weekend?

    He said about Thomas “ he’s like AI, he absorbs it in and uses it for later”

    Only a madden announcer would say that why?
    He knows AI is real in madden. It’s fun guys. Get your stick skills up and the AI is for you
    This is why the cheating is so hefty this year. The trainers only have to get you through the first quarter or so and their Bot skills should be high enough to turn the program off if you stink on the sticks. But if you hang tough with their ❤️❤️❤️❤️ and out shine their program into the second half they are toast. This is maddens anti cheat love it or hate it. I am a fan now that I get it. You do t have to do anything. Just be better than the person you are playing (or their Bots)
  • I have never seen so many long and untouched runs for touchdowns in Madden ever. Madden 20 is the worst the fact that this is happening in 2019 almost 2020 is pathetic. It reminds me of the days when people ran strong power out of Pistol formation. Which Madden was that again? They ran strong power right strong power left, would flip the play without the defense knowing and never had to pass all game long. Madden 20 is back to that and its annoying and extremely unrealistic.
  • none of that matters if the CPU is augmenting or diminishing character animations bro

    Did anyone else hear the Madden NFL announcer make a madden reference during the saints 49ers game this weekend?

    He said about Thomas “ he’s like AI, he absorbs it in and uses it for later”

    Only a madden announcer would say that why?
    He knows AI is real in madden. It’s fun guys. Get your stick skills up and the AI is for you
    This is why the cheating is so hefty this year. The trainers only have to get you through the first quarter or so and their Bot skills should be high enough to turn the program off if you stink on the sticks. But if you hang tough with their **** and out shine their program into the second half they are toast. This is maddens anti cheat love it or hate it. I am a fan now that I get it. You do t have to do anything. Just be better than the person you are playing (or their Bots)


    what in the world are you talking about? Stick skills have absolutely nothing to do with canned animations that either trigger or dont trigger at the cpu discretion... Stick skills isnt going to stop a 180 pound defensive back running through an 300pound linemen on a toss play..
    stick skills cant help you if animations dont trigger when requested by the one holding the controller ..
    stick skills can not control offensive linemen running away from the defenders they're suppose to be blocking and it wont stop ai defenders from not even engaging with the ball carrier

    Also, madden ISNT anti cheat when someone can run the same play over and over and the momentum of the game will result in their success... I've had the cpu literally teleport a player I was controlling out of the way so I couldn't affect the play
  • this game needs a complete overhaul because it's the only football game that we have and its failing terribly...
  • Yikes,
    That’s not very positive. Sometimes when problems follow us around the problem isn’t actually following us around, we are the problem. I will concede to your frustration sir. ( I wonder why I don’t experience the issues you’re speaking of to your extent, don’t get me wrong there are little things with madden 20 like its a video game right? Like i play in the 5% of exhibitions and top 3% of MUT seasons so, huh. Get good bruh. If you ask questions then know everything already about your issues, then your issues go deeper than you know right?
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