Fix these issues in Madden 22, or I'm not playing anymore 😅

therealsmartboy

Look, I know that making a game isn't easy, nor is it easy to please a fan base which has been spoiled by the advance technology of today's machines. All that said, could we get a madden that's is purely predicated on skill?!
When I played street fighter and tekken growing up, I knew for a fact that there are some kids at the arcade who were downright better than everyone; madden doesnt give me that feeling.
For the last several years it's been too much ai driven wins and losses.
I played a game today where my ai players didn't react to anything. Come on guys, how are you supposed to enjoy a game like that?! It wasn't a glitch run he was doing, he didn't run a glitch defense and he wasn't particularly good-- my ai players were nerfed. And, whatever players I usered, would run in place the first few steps before moving, and wouldn't react to any button commands. So, I would just run pass ball carriers, or just stand there when a ball is caught. But his Ai players were amazing lmfao.
180 pound defensive backs throwing tightends and tackles to the ground while making a tackle for loss. And, this isn't even the worst of it.
Listen, this mess needs to be addressed. Its not an enjoyable game, it's just the only one the nfl allows. People have been complaining about it for too long for it not to be addressed and fixed. I can deal with the other issues so long as things remain consistent. I don't want to win or lose because the cpu decides it, if I'm playing against another person. Its just getting kind of hilarious now. But I'm still angry because I paid money for a product that doesn't work properly

kennylc76

Well in about three months, news and videos about Madden 22 will be "leaked" and then we will really "ooo and ahhh" about these announcements about "improved AI ability to blah, blah, blah" and the "all new franchise mode designed to simulate the life of a GM and blah, blah, blah"

We will really hear about the improvements to Superstar KO and The Yard... even though nobody cares about those modes.

Be patient. Madden 22 will be THEE madden.

blinkfan18211

It's because EA doesn't care, and they haven't cared since 2005. They have the technology to make a simulation game, but they repeatedly choose not to. It's absolutely sad that APF 2k8 is still the standard for football games. I wish 2K chose to make a re-mastered version of that game and include a franchise mode, and creation suite so we can make and download teams, stadiums, jerseys, rosters, and logos. That would be so much better than an NFL arcade game.

You're absolutely right. This game is not fun.

kennylc76

blinkfan18211 wrote: »

It's because EA doesn't care, and they haven't cared since 2005. They have the technology to make a simulation game, but they repeatedly choose not to. It's absolutely sad that APF 2k8 is still the standard for football games. I wish 2K chose to make a re-mastered version of that game and include a franchise mode, and creation suite so we can make and download teams, stadiums, jerseys, rosters, and logos. That would be so much better than an NFL arcade game.

You're absolutely right. This game is not fun.

I've said for years that we need to save some of our anger for 2K Sports. They lost the license; big deal. They should have saw that as an opportunity, but instead they just shut down. This is what they need to do
1) Dust off APF2k8. We pretty much agree gameplay is solid.
2) Scrap the whole playing with Barry Sanders and instead do a generic teams/players that can be downloaded and edited by gamers
3) ADD A FRANCHISE MODE!!!! That was 2k's biggest mistake.
4) Release the game in May/June to capitalize off the buzz created by the draft. It will be popular in that down time.

But instead, 2k STILL got it wrong by diving into the arcade market. If 2K made a generic game with a franchise, it would be more successful than an arcade game with real players,

Just my two cents.

OilertheJuice

I agree, too many games feel pre-decided. It’s like the opponent your playing lost 5 games straight from not being good and EA throws them a bone so they will be intrigued to play another game. It seems like they just wanna make money instead of pleasing the players who are good or trying to become good at the game.

therealsmartboy

Its absolutely insane. Im glad more people post about it on the forums. They use to erase all of my posts and the mods would send me testy messages and ban me for a few weeks. I have seen this many posts about it.
I literally just lost a game to a guy who ran every play. And normally that wouldn't be an issue, as there are formations that completely stunts the run game. My problem was ai.. no one pursued the ball carrier. As soon as he hiked the ball, every play, my tackles would automatically fall to the ground and my ends and linebackers would stand up but they wouldn't run. And he was running a play that normally doesnt even give a lot of yards. It was all the computer. Even when I would run towards him, the tackle animation wouldn't trigger, regardless of how much I pressed the button. So it's like I just ran into him and nothing else. When he did throw, it was in a crowd of 2 and 3 players because he only ran 1 and 2 man routes. But it's either I didn't get a seat or interception animation or he caught it!! This game is trash

EA_Blueberry

therealsmartboy wrote: »

Its absolutely insane. Im glad more people post about it on the forums. They use to erase all of my posts and the mods would send me testy messages and ban me for a few weeks. I have seen this many posts about it.
I literally just lost a game to a guy who ran every play. And normally that wouldn't be an issue, as there are formations that completely stunts the run game. My problem was ai.. no one pursued the ball carrier. As soon as he hiked the ball, every play, my tackles would automatically fall to the ground and my ends and linebackers would stand up but they wouldn't run. And he was running a play that normally doesnt even give a lot of yards. It was all the computer. Even when I would run towards him, the tackle animation wouldn't trigger, regardless of how much I pressed the button. So it's like I just ran into him and nothing else. When he did throw, it was in a crowd of 2 and 3 players because he only ran 1 and 2 man routes. But it's either I didn't get a seat or interception animation or he caught it!! This game is trash

Would you be interested in posting gameplay so others might be able to help give you advice on what we could do to stop the run? Actions are taken on forum accounts when the forum rules are violated. I recommend reviewing the rules. It's cool to vent when you lose games, that's fine, but posting topics on the forums with the only context "this game sucks!" doesn't really lead to any productive discussions nor provide the game team any valuable information on what they should actually do to improve it.

Out of your original post I see this "180 pound defensive backs throwing tightends and tackles to the ground while making a tackle for loss. And, this isn't even the worst of it."

Since you're not posting under Ultimate Team I'm assuming you're playing Online H2H. If it was Franchise, ratings vary due to progression, X-Factor/Superstar factors, Franchise slider adjustments matter...there's a lot of details we'll need to have a serious discussion around this.

Do you have video footage you can share in the thread to help highlight your pitch on why the game is not as enjoyable as you played in the past so we can review those pieces of gameplay as areas of improvement? That can help drive changes when they're included in these topics of discussion.

OilertheJuice

I just wish the game would be more consistent and luck wasn’t a huge part in the game.

therealsmartboy

EA_Blueberry wrote: »

therealsmartboy wrote: »

Its absolutely insane. Im glad more people post about it on the forums. They use to erase all of my posts and the mods would send me testy messages and ban me for a few weeks. I have seen this many posts about it.
I literally just lost a game to a guy who ran every play. And normally that wouldn't be an issue, as there are formations that completely stunts the run game. My problem was ai.. no one pursued the ball carrier. As soon as he hiked the ball, every play, my tackles would automatically fall to the ground and my ends and linebackers would stand up but they wouldn't run. And he was running a play that normally doesnt even give a lot of yards. It was all the computer. Even when I would run towards him, the tackle animation wouldn't trigger, regardless of how much I pressed the button. So it's like I just ran into him and nothing else. When he did throw, it was in a crowd of 2 and 3 players because he only ran 1 and 2 man routes. But it's either I didn't get a seat or interception animation or he caught it!! This game is trash

Would you be interested in posting gameplay so others might be able to help give you advice on what we could do to stop the run? Actions are taken on forum accounts when the forum rules are violated. I recommend reviewing the rules. It's cool to vent when you lose games, that's fine, but posting topics on the forums with the only context "this game sucks!" doesn't really lead to any productive discussions nor provide the game team any valuable information on what they should actually do to improve it.

Out of your original post I see this "180 pound defensive backs throwing tightends and tackles to the ground while making a tackle for loss. And, this isn't even the worst of it."

Since you're not posting under Ultimate Team I'm assuming you're playing Online H2H. If it was Franchise, ratings vary due to progression, X-Factor/Superstar factors, Franchise slider adjustments matter...there's a lot of details we'll need to have a serious discussion around this.

Do you have video footage you can share in the thread to help highlight your pitch on why the game is not as enjoyable as you played in the past so we can review those pieces of gameplay as areas of improvement? That can help drive changes when they're included in these topics of discussion.

Honestly, I feels as if you're literally gaslighting me and I'm coming to you, a representative of EA, as a consumer with a specific issue. Saying the game sucks, as a CONSUMER, a paying customer of said product is a legitimate criticism. In addition, suggesting that I upload footage in order to receive tips on stopping the run is a very dishonest retort to what I articulated, and considering the tone of a good deal of the comments on this thread, and others, I'm pretty sure that you also know this.
I gave you examples of the issues and these things are outside the control of the user. We BOTH know what I'm complaining about, so why not acknowledge it so that we can come to a solution.

therealsmartboy

Id literally have to upload multiple games to provide you with a comparative analysis of how the game's ai/programming augments or diminishes animations based on certain conditions.
Anyone who has played this game the last 7 or 8 years knows that after a win streak, the cpu will cause your team's cpu controlled players to react differently. Its not funny, it's not entertaining.
It even affects your own controls. In games like the ones described, routinely, the cpu, on routes that are smart routed to go beyond the first down marker, will cause your players to catch the ball but during the catch animation, they will literally slide behind the marker so you don't get the first down. And, there is nothing you can do about that as a user. There is no plays, no user control to prevent this. On run plays or even on defense, when the ball is hiked, you often times won't be able to make cuts or turn or even move forward because the cpu will force your players to run in place until a defender gets in position to tackle you or until the opposing players ball carrier is past the line of scrimmage. But these things only happen when you've won too many games or you play someone who have lost too many. And honestly, I'm not going to post a bunch of videos for things that are well known to everyone in the community. I'm merely posting it to remind you guys that it needs to be fixed. I'm not trying to debate whether or not these things exist

Heirofel73572

Can they also add an algorithm that if the opposite team has no more time outs, and there is less time on the game clock than the play clock, and the QB takes a knee than both sides start working towards the middle of the field like real life while the clock ticks to zero as opposed to waiting until zero like current Madden 21. Also I noticed the Philadelphia Eagles fight song come on after every field goal instead of the touchdown and point after kick, can that be fixed PLEASE...................................................

koolkev258

therealsmartboy wrote: »

Id literally have to upload multiple games to provide you with a comparative analysis of how the game's ai/programming augments or diminishes animations based on certain conditions.
Anyone who has played this game the last 7 or 8 years knows that after a win streak, the cpu will cause your team's cpu controlled players to react differently. Its not funny, it's not entertaining.
It even affects your own controls. In games like the ones described, routinely, the cpu, on routes that are smart routed to go beyond the first down marker, will cause your players to catch the ball but during the catch animation, they will literally slide behind the marker so you don't get the first down. And, there is nothing you can do about that as a user. There is no plays, no user control to prevent this. On run plays or even on defense, when the ball is hiked, you often times won't be able to make cuts or turn or even move forward because the cpu will force your players to run in place until a defender gets in position to tackle you or until the opposing players ball carrier is past the line of scrimmage. But these things only happen when you've won too many games or you play someone who have lost too many. And honestly, I'm not going to post a bunch of videos for things that are well known to everyone in the community. I'm merely posting it to remind you guys that it needs to be fixed. I'm not trying to debate whether or not these things exist

I've been suspended 4 times for posts that hurt the mods' feelings and I'm probably gonna get suspended again for the other post I just made.

pookie4486

Ea Blueberry I have had issues with this buggy game as well. You guys are the only people who can make a NFL Simulation style game and there are some good things about Madden but the ANIMATIONS, atleast some of them need to stop. I uploaded videos of my issues and my response from EA is always the politically correct answer but never a solution. Hopefully in the coming future EA can get some competitors in making a NFL Simulation style video game. I have video where a guy got in gun Doubles and rpo glitched me the whole game. Also there is a known punt block glitch as well

BSDShoes

That's been going on for years, it's worse in FIFA compared to Madden (and NHL) though. Some games teammates just stands there and lets the opponent just whiff by, or even your controlled player refuses to respond according to your input.

victorydarapper

> @therealsmartboy said:
> Look, I know that making a game isn't easy, nor is it easy to please a fan base which has been spoiled by the advance technology of today's machines. All that said, could we get a madden that's is purely predicated on skill?!
> When I played street fighter and tekken growing up, I knew for a fact that there are some kids at the arcade who were downright better than everyone; madden doesnt give me that feeling.
> For the last several years it's been too much ai driven wins and losses.
> I played a game today where my ai players didn't react to anything. Come on guys, how are you supposed to enjoy a game like that?! It wasn't a glitch run he was doing, he didn't run a glitch defense and he wasn't particularly good-- my ai players were nerfed. And, whatever players I usered, would run in place the first few steps before moving, and wouldn't react to any button commands. So, I would just run pass ball carriers, or just stand there when a ball is caught. But his Ai players were amazing lmfao.
> 180 pound defensive backs throwing tightends and tackles to the ground while making a tackle for loss. And, this isn't even the worst of it.
> Listen, this mess needs to be addressed. Its not an enjoyable game, it's just the only one the nfl allows. People have been complaining about it for too long for it not to be addressed and fixed. I can deal with the other issues so long as things remain consistent. I don't want to win or lose because the cpu decides it, if I'm playing against another person. Its just getting kind of hilarious now. But I'm still angry because I paid money for a product that doesn't work properly

victorydarapper

I haven't played one player h2h that doesn't use all the glitches. Every single player online knows how to cheat. It is the saddest thing in video game history. EA has done absolutely nothing. That's the most confusing part about all of this. Why won't they fix it or penalize these idiots. They won't even kick off straight just to get a hit stick attempt and possible fumble. What the hell is wrong with people. It's just a game. They ask if I have fun I put no every time. Even win I win. It's the honest truth. Can I find one player who doesn't run around unblocked on defense and get 4 yards after contact with any ball carrier they use. And run around my defense they just back petal or don't try to do anything. ****???? Can't believe this is all we have to represent the NFL. I literally hate it and it's makers.

Viperwolf26

I kick the ball off after scoring a touchdown. The other player catches it, pitches it back to another player & is tackled on their six yard line. Next play it's 1st & goal from the one yard line on the other end of the field. Losses i can deal with, but blatent cheats like that being allowed are just **** on EA's part imo. :|

EA_Blueberry

Viperwolf26 wrote: »

I kick the ball off after scoring a touchdown. The other player catches it, pitches it back to another player & is tackled on their six yard line. Next play it's 1st & goal from the one yard line on the other end of the field. Losses i can deal with, but blatent cheats like that being allowed are just **** on EA's part imo.

@Viperwolf26

I've seen some rare bugs get reported where a player goes out of bounds and then will end up at a different spot on the field for their next down. This sounds similar, if you can report it in our Answers HQ so the team can gather account details and specifics for the bug, it could help them reproduce it for a bug fix. Having the bugs reported there will provide tracking and help us understand what bugs are impacting the community. Any help you can lend there will make a impact for the community.

Thank you and sorry to hear about the outcome. Best of luck next time on the field.

https://answers.ea.com/t5/Madden-NFL-22/ct-p/madden-nfl-22-en