Could this be the worst Madden ever ?
Ive been a long time player for Madden games. I loved the old ones on the old Nintendos when youd create a player and put them through camp to decide their stats. Tapping A and B super fast for speed. Ah the good old days. Theres only been one year I didnt buy Madden and that was in 2014 I believe. Had medical bills to pay and couldnt afford it. To be honest I am seriously wishing I hadnt bought it this year. It is such a waste of money. I dont believe any single game has ever disappointed me so much.
The good: -Graphics
-The ability to edit the draft potentials
The Bad:
- Same old lame ignorant lazy horribly created teams when wanting to move a team doing franchise mode. Why do we have the EXACT same team and uniforms and basically all the exact same choices as the last few years. Can EA not come up with anything new ? Some of the uniform choices are just outright hideous.
-The exact same horrible blocking during run plays and special teams receiving plays. The run blocking I thought was supposed to get better. It didnt. Im still getting tackled for 1 yard losses after the AI only rushes 3 or 4 because my guys simple are not blocking. Heck they arent even trying. I cant count the number of times my lineman and tight ends have been 15 yards downfield doing who knows what while Im getting tackled at the line of scrimmage. Or ill try and run through a hole only to have my lineman just give up his block the moment I get near him. The AI run blocks well. They actually hold their blocks until the play is over. Why can my guys not do the same ?
-Watching AI defenders with their back to the ball somehow magically make plays they have no business making. Lobbing a ball to a deep receiver to have a AI linebacker bat it down by jumping 30 feet in the air with his back turned. Or watching my receiver completely burn past a cornerback down the sideline so I lob a deep perfect pass only to have the corner get this burst of speed at the last moment and close a 5 yard gap in less than a second to bat it down to intercept. Or how about that safety that can cover the entire field for the AI defense ? Man he's fast. Can cover 3 or 4 guys all at the same time with speed that would probably rated in the 200s by Madden standards. AI linebackers can do this too. Its awesome watching a power rush linebacker with 78 speed somehow get put on Deandre Hopkins. So I adjust the route to cover the mismatch. Send Hopkins streaking down the field one on one with a linebacker. Somehow magically that LB can cover him stride for stride as I lob the ball 50 yards downfield to have the LB bat it down or intercept. Would my LB ever be able to do this? Hell no. My cornerbacks can barely do it 10% of the time. The AI is vastly overpowered and NOT realistic.
-Kind of goes with my last point but human reaction time. How come my defense will hesitate or get faked out by a counter run, or playaction, or a pump fake. The AI defense doesnt. Its realistic and should be on both sides. A counter or play action should freeze the linebackers. Not just mine but the AI as well but it doesnt. The AI never falls for a fake. In fact the AI knows what the play is the exact moment you hike the ball. If its a run they know exactly which way the runs going. If its a pass the exact second you pass the ball their entire teams drops what they are doing and crashes towards the intended receiver and alot of times can get their before the ball does. But only the AI does this. The AI displays no human reaction time. It reacts like a computer and instantly knows every single situation. This desperatly needs to be fixed. I have been waiting for this to be addressed for years. Again my guys react like humans would. The AI NEVER does.
- Injuries. My god really EA ? Are you really this incompetent ? This should be easy. Instead first game of the season and I have 4 starters out for the game before halftime. By the end of the game I had 9 starters and 3 backups all out for 7-10 games. By the second game I had so many injuries I couldnt play. I would have had to put all those guys that would be coming back on IR just so I could sign a bunch of 50s and 60s to my team. And 50s and 60s only play like all stars when their on the AI. Never for your team. Fix this EA. Geez we go through this crap every year.
-How about how during fieldgoals you actually know ahead of time its about to be blocked? Soon as you hike the balls no one moves. They always give the AI blocker a split second to get around the line and then the ball is hiked resulting in a block. You can actually feel it. Its so stupid.
Im sorry EA but your Madden games keep getting worse and worse. Are you even trying anymore? Do you even care ? Im going to assume not. You have no competition. Your blatant disrespect to your customer base by creating a monoply on the sport game product only shows you have zero intention of ever putting out a seriously thought out product. I for one will not be buying next years Madden. I know that means nothing to you. But it does to me. I love football. Just have to find another way to get my fix. If only I could get a refund.
The good: -Graphics
-The ability to edit the draft potentials
The Bad:
- Same old lame ignorant lazy horribly created teams when wanting to move a team doing franchise mode. Why do we have the EXACT same team and uniforms and basically all the exact same choices as the last few years. Can EA not come up with anything new ? Some of the uniform choices are just outright hideous.
-The exact same horrible blocking during run plays and special teams receiving plays. The run blocking I thought was supposed to get better. It didnt. Im still getting tackled for 1 yard losses after the AI only rushes 3 or 4 because my guys simple are not blocking. Heck they arent even trying. I cant count the number of times my lineman and tight ends have been 15 yards downfield doing who knows what while Im getting tackled at the line of scrimmage. Or ill try and run through a hole only to have my lineman just give up his block the moment I get near him. The AI run blocks well. They actually hold their blocks until the play is over. Why can my guys not do the same ?
-Watching AI defenders with their back to the ball somehow magically make plays they have no business making. Lobbing a ball to a deep receiver to have a AI linebacker bat it down by jumping 30 feet in the air with his back turned. Or watching my receiver completely burn past a cornerback down the sideline so I lob a deep perfect pass only to have the corner get this burst of speed at the last moment and close a 5 yard gap in less than a second to bat it down to intercept. Or how about that safety that can cover the entire field for the AI defense ? Man he's fast. Can cover 3 or 4 guys all at the same time with speed that would probably rated in the 200s by Madden standards. AI linebackers can do this too. Its awesome watching a power rush linebacker with 78 speed somehow get put on Deandre Hopkins. So I adjust the route to cover the mismatch. Send Hopkins streaking down the field one on one with a linebacker. Somehow magically that LB can cover him stride for stride as I lob the ball 50 yards downfield to have the LB bat it down or intercept. Would my LB ever be able to do this? Hell no. My cornerbacks can barely do it 10% of the time. The AI is vastly overpowered and NOT realistic.
-Kind of goes with my last point but human reaction time. How come my defense will hesitate or get faked out by a counter run, or playaction, or a pump fake. The AI defense doesnt. Its realistic and should be on both sides. A counter or play action should freeze the linebackers. Not just mine but the AI as well but it doesnt. The AI never falls for a fake. In fact the AI knows what the play is the exact moment you hike the ball. If its a run they know exactly which way the runs going. If its a pass the exact second you pass the ball their entire teams drops what they are doing and crashes towards the intended receiver and alot of times can get their before the ball does. But only the AI does this. The AI displays no human reaction time. It reacts like a computer and instantly knows every single situation. This desperatly needs to be fixed. I have been waiting for this to be addressed for years. Again my guys react like humans would. The AI NEVER does.
- Injuries. My god really EA ? Are you really this incompetent ? This should be easy. Instead first game of the season and I have 4 starters out for the game before halftime. By the end of the game I had 9 starters and 3 backups all out for 7-10 games. By the second game I had so many injuries I couldnt play. I would have had to put all those guys that would be coming back on IR just so I could sign a bunch of 50s and 60s to my team. And 50s and 60s only play like all stars when their on the AI. Never for your team. Fix this EA. Geez we go through this crap every year.
-How about how during fieldgoals you actually know ahead of time its about to be blocked? Soon as you hike the balls no one moves. They always give the AI blocker a split second to get around the line and then the ball is hiked resulting in a block. You can actually feel it. Its so stupid.
Im sorry EA but your Madden games keep getting worse and worse. Are you even trying anymore? Do you even care ? Im going to assume not. You have no competition. Your blatant disrespect to your customer base by creating a monoply on the sport game product only shows you have zero intention of ever putting out a seriously thought out product. I for one will not be buying next years Madden. I know that means nothing to you. But it does to me. I love football. Just have to find another way to get my fix. If only I could get a refund.
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I understand a lot of people play Madden online and treat it as a "video game", after all, that's what it is. But some people do enjoy playing as a football simulation, playing franchise vs the CPU. It's not about "activating". There's 11 defenders on the field. All 11 players on the cpu team react differently than the a.i. controlled players on the human team. It is impossible to control all 11 players, obviously. And I for one, did not play football in real life. So if I take control of a corner, I have no idea how to "read" plays and react accordingly, and cover the proper route. That's why players have ratings. Some of us have no desire to show off "stick skills", but instead to call the plays and out think the opponent, putting our skilled players in the proper position. To some of us, that is the core essence of football, to coach our favorite team. Not just mash buttons and play a video game.
But if you want to play a bad game, go back to Madden 06 and the one where that fight for the fumble nonsense was the headliner feature. Those were some bad games.
I understand a lot of people play Madden online and treat it as a "video game", after all, that's what it is. But some people do enjoy playing as a football simulation, playing franchise vs the CPU. It's not about "activating". There's 11 defenders on the field. All 11 players on the cpu team react differently than the a.i. controlled players on the human team. It is impossible to control all 11 players, obviously. And I for one, did not play football in real life. So if I take control of a corner, I have no idea how to "read" plays and react accordingly, and cover the proper route. That's why players have ratings. Some of us have no desire to show off "stick skills", but instead to call the plays and out think the opponent, putting our skilled players in the proper position. To some of us, that is the core essence of football, to coach our favorite team. Not just mash buttons and play a video game. [/quote]
if you only can call plays you are only doing half the work. and its not button mashing when you USER pick someone. its skill or when you USER hit someone to cause a fumble. calling the right play is essential but its only half the work if you are watching the CPU play. And of course there are 11 defenders I only ask you ACTIVATE the man nearest the ball not the one furthest away from the ball.
I get what you're saying. I really do, I just don't enjoy rushing for 200 yards every game, or having 5 defensive picks every game. That may be an impressive "skill" for some people. Personally I'm not asking for my players to play "better" and to help me win games. The post was about how different the cpu a.i. players react. Sure, I can switch to the closest defender in coverage, but he's still 10 yards away because he didn't react before I took control of him the same way a cpu defender would react. You're not focusing on the point of the post. I'm 41 and have been playing Madden since the first ever game. I stopped taking control of players in order to have a more challenging, realistic experience. If my RB sucks, I don't want my "skills" to make him the best RB in the league. Some people enjoy that. I actually enjoy watching my RB get stuffed and only get 40 yards in a game because that's realistic, if I have an average to below average RB. Switching to the closest defender after the ball is thrown does not make my defenders play zone the way they are supposed to. Style of play, or "skill" doesn't change the fact that there is a huge difference between how the a.i. reacts for the CPU compared to the human teams. If you don't care about realism, and you want the hardest game possible, then crappy a.i. accomplishes that. I, and others, prefer realistic difficulty, not just blatant a.i. cheating to make the game harder. That's the point, in my humble opinion.
O-Liners running away instead of blocking, DBs or LBs teleporting into your pass, WRs doing one hand catches all the time, AI QBs hitting just every pass on 3rd downs in one drive while you cant do **** and the list goes on. The end result might be right, but making compromises to get there just isn't the right way and annoying to people who play this game, since it makes no sense. But I don't think the devs can or want to change that...
FIFAs AI might be bad in some situations but Madden's is a joke
Edited to remove swearing. - EA_Cian