6's in 17 are atrocious and the worst they've ever been. 3 on 3 can add a lot of skill to a game that right now requires 0. EA NHL has such a small community, but if there was to ever be a tournament or consistent e-sports presence I think 3on3 can provide that. 17 is just trap and collapse, the slower game speed and passing inconsistency prevents teams from countering this boring style.
I'm all for 3on3
3v3 could either be the best or worst thing in the series in a long time. It has the upsides that you mention where it can really open the game up and make it more fast paced, but it also has the side effect of making exploits easier to pull off given the extra room and possibly becoming so common that the mode becomes far worse than 5v5.
Imagine playing a team that does nothing but have their players without the puck go looking for incidental contact on anyone defending their teammate with the puck to get him a clear path to the net. Maybe there is another shot like the Bacon slapper, short side wrap, or being able to score from behind the net again, and teams can abuse it to force you into playing very poor positionally.
3v3 is going to multiply the frequency and effectiveness of anything you can do in 5v5 to get an advantage. If EA manages to weed out most of the exploits in gameplay right now, this could end up being a very fun mode, but if they don't it's going to be a cesspool of teams that will spend the full 60 minutes running through their list of exploits to try and win, and probably desync if you manage to get the upper hand on them.
I'm open minded to this, but EA could be setting themselves up to fall pretty hard here.
6's in 17 are atrocious and the worst they've ever been. 3 on 3 can add a lot of skill to a game that right now requires 0. EA NHL has such a small community, but if there was to ever be a tournament or consistent e-sports presence I think 3on3 can provide that. 17 is just trap and collapse, the slower game speed and passing inconsistency prevents teams from countering this boring style.
I'm all for 3on3
3v3 could either be the best or worst thing in the series in a long time. It has the upsides that you mention where it can really open the game up and make it more fast paced, but it also has the side effect of making exploits easier to pull off given the extra room and possibly becoming so common that the mode becomes far worse than 5v5.
Imagine playing a team that does nothing but have their players without the puck go looking for incidental contact on anyone defending their teammate with the puck to get him a clear path to the net. Maybe there is another shot like the Bacon slapper, short side wrap, or being able to score from behind the net again, and teams can abuse it to force you into playing very poor positionally.
3v3 is going to multiply the frequency and effectiveness of anything you can do in 5v5 to get an advantage. If EA manages to weed out most of the exploits in gameplay right now, this could end up being a very fun mode, but if they don't it's going to be a cesspool of teams that will spend the full 60 minutes running through their list of exploits to try and win, and probably desync if you manage to get the upper hand on them.
I'm open minded to this, but EA could be setting themselves up to fall pretty hard here.
I hope 3v3 mode is 10 minute periods instead of 20. All of these exploits mentioned can be prevented from solid defense and goaltending. Has there been a human goalie exploit ever? I've been playing OTP since 08 and can't remember one.
6's in 17 are atrocious and the worst they've ever been. 3 on 3 can add a lot of skill to a game that right now requires 0. EA NHL has such a small community, but if there was to ever be a tournament or consistent e-sports presence I think 3on3 can provide that. 17 is just trap and collapse, the slower game speed and passing inconsistency prevents teams from countering this boring style.
I'm all for 3on3
3v3 could either be the best or worst thing in the series in a long time. It has the upsides that you mention where it can really open the game up and make it more fast paced, but it also has the side effect of making exploits easier to pull off given the extra room and possibly becoming so common that the mode becomes far worse than 5v5.
Imagine playing a team that does nothing but have their players without the puck go looking for incidental contact on anyone defending their teammate with the puck to get him a clear path to the net. Maybe there is another shot like the Bacon slapper, short side wrap, or being able to score from behind the net again, and teams can abuse it to force you into playing very poor positionally.
3v3 is going to multiply the frequency and effectiveness of anything you can do in 5v5 to get an advantage. If EA manages to weed out most of the exploits in gameplay right now, this could end up being a very fun mode, but if they don't it's going to be a cesspool of teams that will spend the full 60 minutes running through their list of exploits to try and win, and probably desync if you manage to get the upper hand on them.
I'm open minded to this, but EA could be setting themselves up to fall pretty hard here.
I can agree. But with the collision detection and checking being wonky at best, I foresee this new 3s as being a plague that will slowly kill off online gaming for this franchise. EASHL needs to be exploited alot more than it currently is.
I could see the 3v3 eashl part of it becoming a huge puck ragging issue. Will be far too easy with that much open ice to rag
Yeah 3v3 with full rink size is way too much open ice. With all the invincibility bubbles in the game.. it's going to be a ghost town after 2 weeks.
Yep. Pretty much gunna be as soon as 1 team scores first, it's gunna turn into puck ragging which will force 2 of the 3 players on the other team to HAVE to forecheck, which will spring a 2 on 1 the other way, rinse and repeat
Thats the point of 3-on-3
In other words.. FUN!
Lol well, let's just see everyone's opinion on it being fun 2 weeks after release. Remember me posting this too please
6's in 17 are atrocious and the worst they've ever been. 3 on 3 can add a lot of skill to a game that right now requires 0. EA NHL has such a small community, but if there was to ever be a tournament or consistent e-sports presence I think 3on3 can provide that. 17 is just trap and collapse, the slower game speed and passing inconsistency prevents teams from countering this boring style.
I'm all for 3on3
3v3 could either be the best or worst thing in the series in a long time. It has the upsides that you mention where it can really open the game up and make it more fast paced, but it also has the side effect of making exploits easier to pull off given the extra room and possibly becoming so common that the mode becomes far worse than 5v5.
Imagine playing a team that does nothing but have their players without the puck go looking for incidental contact on anyone defending their teammate with the puck to get him a clear path to the net. Maybe there is another shot like the Bacon slapper, short side wrap, or being able to score from behind the net again, and teams can abuse it to force you into playing very poor positionally.
3v3 is going to multiply the frequency and effectiveness of anything you can do in 5v5 to get an advantage. If EA manages to weed out most of the exploits in gameplay right now, this could end up being a very fun mode, but if they don't it's going to be a cesspool of teams that will spend the full 60 minutes running through their list of exploits to try and win, and probably desync if you manage to get the upper hand on them.
I'm open minded to this, but EA could be setting themselves up to fall pretty hard here.
I hope 3v3 mode is 10 minute periods instead of 20. All of these exploits mentioned can be prevented from solid defense and goaltending. Has there been a human goalie exploit ever? I've been playing OTP since 08 and can't remember one.
6's in 17 are atrocious and the worst they've ever been. 3 on 3 can add a lot of skill to a game that right now requires 0. EA NHL has such a small community, but if there was to ever be a tournament or consistent e-sports presence I think 3on3 can provide that. 17 is just trap and collapse, the slower game speed and passing inconsistency prevents teams from countering this boring style.
I'm all for 3on3
3v3 could either be the best or worst thing in the series in a long time. It has the upsides that you mention where it can really open the game up and make it more fast paced, but it also has the side effect of making exploits easier to pull off given the extra room and possibly becoming so common that the mode becomes far worse than 5v5.
Imagine playing a team that does nothing but have their players without the puck go looking for incidental contact on anyone defending their teammate with the puck to get him a clear path to the net. Maybe there is another shot like the Bacon slapper, short side wrap, or being able to score from behind the net again, and teams can abuse it to force you into playing very poor positionally.
3v3 is going to multiply the frequency and effectiveness of anything you can do in 5v5 to get an advantage. If EA manages to weed out most of the exploits in gameplay right now, this could end up being a very fun mode, but if they don't it's going to be a cesspool of teams that will spend the full 60 minutes running through their list of exploits to try and win, and probably desync if you manage to get the upper hand on them.
I'm open minded to this, but EA could be setting themselves up to fall pretty hard here.
I hope 3v3 mode is 10 minute periods instead of 20. All of these exploits mentioned can be prevented from solid defense and goaltending. Has there been a human goalie exploit ever? I've been playing OTP since 08 and can't remember one.
What do you mean by human goalie exploit?
I assume he means like a 'glitch goal'. A shot someone always takes on one spot on the ice that usually goes in.
6's in 17 are atrocious and the worst they've ever been. 3 on 3 can add a lot of skill to a game that right now requires 0. EA NHL has such a small community, but if there was to ever be a tournament or consistent e-sports presence I think 3on3 can provide that. 17 is just trap and collapse, the slower game speed and passing inconsistency prevents teams from countering this boring style.
I'm all for 3on3
3v3 could either be the best or worst thing in the series in a long time. It has the upsides that you mention where it can really open the game up and make it more fast paced, but it also has the side effect of making exploits easier to pull off given the extra room and possibly becoming so common that the mode becomes far worse than 5v5.
Imagine playing a team that does nothing but have their players without the puck go looking for incidental contact on anyone defending their teammate with the puck to get him a clear path to the net. Maybe there is another shot like the Bacon slapper, short side wrap, or being able to score from behind the net again, and teams can abuse it to force you into playing very poor positionally.
3v3 is going to multiply the frequency and effectiveness of anything you can do in 5v5 to get an advantage. If EA manages to weed out most of the exploits in gameplay right now, this could end up being a very fun mode, but if they don't it's going to be a cesspool of teams that will spend the full 60 minutes running through their list of exploits to try and win, and probably desync if you manage to get the upper hand on them.
I'm open minded to this, but EA could be setting themselves up to fall pretty hard here.
I hope 3v3 mode is 10 minute periods instead of 20. All of these exploits mentioned can be prevented from solid defense and goaltending. Has there been a human goalie exploit ever? I've been playing OTP since 08 and can't remember one.
What do you mean by human goalie exploit?
I assume he means like a 'glitch goal'. A shot someone always takes on one spot on the ice that usually goes in.
In that case, there's the Cross-Grain glitch and the Goal-Line shot glitch.
Hoping that the 3 on 3 mode is very poorly done so it encourages people not to play. This community is small enough, doesnt need to be split into even smaller groups of players.
Hoping that the 3 on 3 mode is very poorly done so it encourages people not to play. This community is small enough, doesnt need to be split into even smaller groups of players.
The Arcade 3 vs 3 mode will be fun: simple, mind-numbing, repetitive. Perfect fit for EA's "vision of Hockey". It's basically going to be "Rocket League" on skates.
EASHL 3 vs 3 however... I can see it becoming a cesspool for puck raggers, glitchers and promoting the scrub mentality that's already so prevalent in 1 vs 1 game modes like HUT and VS.
Hoping that the 3 on 3 mode is very poorly done so it encourages people not to play. This community is small enough, doesnt need to be split into even smaller groups of players.
The Arcade 3 vs 3 mode will be fun: simple, mind-numbing, repetitive. Perfect fit for EA's "vision of Hockey". It's basically going to be "Rocket League" on skates.
EASHL 3 vs 3 however... I can see it becoming a cesspool for puck raggers, glitchers and promoting the scrub mentality that's already so prevalent in 1 vs 1 game modes like HUT and VS.
Have you watched 3v3 overtime in the NHL though? NHL teams do just as much puck ragging lol. 3 on 3 is about possession and setting up for grade A chances. It's not about low quality large quantity shots
Hoping that the 3 on 3 mode is very poorly done so it encourages people not to play. This community is small enough, doesnt need to be split into even smaller groups of players.
The Arcade 3 vs 3 mode will be fun: simple, mind-numbing, repetitive. Perfect fit for EA's "vision of Hockey". It's basically going to be "Rocket League" on skates.
EASHL 3 vs 3 however... I can see it becoming a cesspool for puck raggers, glitchers and promoting the scrub mentality that's already so prevalent in 1 vs 1 game modes like HUT and VS.
Hit the nail on the head. Itll be obvious all the thought and work went into the arcade mode/offline campaign and for eashl 3v3 its just minus 2 skaters with human goalies.
Hoping that the 3 on 3 mode is very poorly done so it encourages people not to play. This community is small enough, doesnt need to be split into even smaller groups of players.
The Arcade 3 vs 3 mode will be fun: simple, mind-numbing, repetitive. Perfect fit for EA's "vision of Hockey". It's basically going to be "Rocket League" on skates.
EASHL 3 vs 3 however... I can see it becoming a cesspool for puck raggers, glitchers and promoting the scrub mentality that's already so prevalent in 1 vs 1 game modes like HUT and VS.
Have you watched 3v3 overtime in the NHL though? NHL teams do just as much puck ragging lol. 3 on 3 is about possession and setting up for grade A chances. It's not about low quality large quantity shots
I don't know what NHL hockey you've been watching, but when they have 3 on 3 in the NHL it's mostly run-n-gun hockey. Mostly due to the fact that they have only ONE five minute extension to try and get the extra point, not THREE TWENTY MINUTE PERIODS like 3 vs 3 EASHL will allow.
It may depend on the teams sometimes, depend on what situation they're in (if they'd really need the extra point or not). But very rarely will teams fail to take advantage of a golden opportunity to seal the deal in the 3 v 3 OT period.
Hoping that the 3 on 3 mode is very poorly done so it encourages people not to play. This community is small enough, doesnt need to be split into even smaller groups of players.
The Arcade 3 vs 3 mode will be fun: simple, mind-numbing, repetitive. Perfect fit for EA's "vision of Hockey". It's basically going to be "Rocket League" on skates.
EASHL 3 vs 3 however... I can see it becoming a cesspool for puck raggers, glitchers and promoting the scrub mentality that's already so prevalent in 1 vs 1 game modes like HUT and VS.
Hit the nail on the head. Itll be obvious all the thought and work went into the arcade mode/offline campaign and for eashl 3v3 its just minus 2 skaters with human goalies.
Eashl is really getting shafted this year.
It was my understanding that 3 v 3 Arcade would also have an Online mode as well? I wouldn't say EASHL is getting the shaft, but we're obviously not getting as many things as we have the last 2 years. Still, if all we get is some much needed fixes to the mechanics and gameplay and tighten things up, I think for us playing in Leagues like LG, it's gonna be really fun and competitive.
We'll see... It all banks on how much EA decides to change stuff with their "updates and tuners". It usually starts out so well, and then the whiners start to complain that they can't score and then it all turns to sh*te...
For years people have been wanting another hockey game to play that would compete against EASHL.Who woulda figured it would have been made by the same Company lol
I just see it as making it even more confusing to tune.When people say this needs fixing or speed needs to be faster or hits need to be more impactful,we now have yet another mode to confuse it with.
In my opinion every mode plays different.Yet people give feedback without saying "btw im referring to offline bap" or whatever mode it may be,and with all these gamemodes,no opinion should go without stating what mode you are trying to address as it shouldnt be perceived as a blanket statement.
The only way it's getting shafted imo is it's not getting much added "fluff" that everyone here likes to complain about anyway.
All gameplay improvements are universal so it will improve gameplay in all modes including 2s to 6s.
Well, if you basically building a whole new/different game with the budget and resources of the original game.. of course it will have a devastating impact on everything that was planned and should have been done to the core and existing modes.
Well, if you basically building a whole new/different game with the budget and resources of the original game.. of course it will have a devastating impact on everything that was planned and should have been done to the core and existing modes.
They aren't really building a new game, just a new mode. NHL 3s still uses the same core gameplay, just different sliders with a couple rule changes.
Last year they added EASHL and Franchise jersey and arena creators, HUT synergies, and World Cup of Hockey. This is in my mind takes more time to program than NHLs3.
CPU AI overhaul, defensive skill stick should drastically improve gameplay universally ultimately making EASHL better as well. I assume they made other tweaks to clean up the overall play (pivoting etc...)
Hoping that the 3 on 3 mode is very poorly done so it encourages people not to play. This community is small enough, doesnt need to be split into even smaller groups of players.
The Arcade 3 vs 3 mode will be fun: simple, mind-numbing, repetitive. Perfect fit for EA's "vision of Hockey". It's basically going to be "Rocket League" on skates.
EASHL 3 vs 3 however... I can see it becoming a cesspool for puck raggers, glitchers and promoting the scrub mentality that's already so prevalent in 1 vs 1 game modes like HUT and VS.
Hit the nail on the head. Itll be obvious all the thought and work went into the arcade mode/offline campaign and for eashl 3v3 its just minus 2 skaters with human goalies.
Eashl is really getting shafted this year.
It was my understanding that 3 v 3 Arcade would also have an Online mode as well? I wouldn't say EASHL is getting the shaft, but we're obviously not getting as many things as we have the last 2 years. Still, if all we get is some much needed fixes to the mechanics and gameplay and tighten things up, I think for us playing in Leagues like LG, it's gonna be really fun and competitive.
We'll see... It all banks on how much EA decides to change stuff with their "updates and tuners". It usually starts out so well, and then the whiners start to complain that they can't score and then it all turns to sh*te...
It is online, but i dont think it uses eashl classes.
Well, if you basically building a whole new/different game with the budget and resources of the original game.. of course it will have a devastating impact on everything that was planned and should have been done to the core and existing modes.
They aren't really building a new game, just a new mode. NHL 3s still uses the same core gameplay, just different sliders with a couple rule changes.
Last year they added EASHL and Franchise jersey and arena creators, HUT synergies, and World Cup of Hockey. This is in my mind takes more time to program than NHLs3.
CPU AI overhaul, defensive skill stick should drastically improve gameplay universally ultimately making EASHL better as well. I assume they made other tweaks to clean up the overall play (pivoting etc...)
We already know they've made subtle tweaks to the Legacy issues that were plaguing goalies, like smoother transitions into hugging the post and butterfly animations. I also have a hunch there are a few more tweaks that have made their way into the core gameplay that no one knows about yet.
I'll take a cleaning up of the issues that plagued the gameplay these last two years over anything "added" gladly if it means I won't be wishing to throw babies at the devs when I play. LOL!
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3v3 could either be the best or worst thing in the series in a long time. It has the upsides that you mention where it can really open the game up and make it more fast paced, but it also has the side effect of making exploits easier to pull off given the extra room and possibly becoming so common that the mode becomes far worse than 5v5.
Imagine playing a team that does nothing but have their players without the puck go looking for incidental contact on anyone defending their teammate with the puck to get him a clear path to the net. Maybe there is another shot like the Bacon slapper, short side wrap, or being able to score from behind the net again, and teams can abuse it to force you into playing very poor positionally.
3v3 is going to multiply the frequency and effectiveness of anything you can do in 5v5 to get an advantage. If EA manages to weed out most of the exploits in gameplay right now, this could end up being a very fun mode, but if they don't it's going to be a cesspool of teams that will spend the full 60 minutes running through their list of exploits to try and win, and probably desync if you manage to get the upper hand on them.
I'm open minded to this, but EA could be setting themselves up to fall pretty hard here.
I hope 3v3 mode is 10 minute periods instead of 20. All of these exploits mentioned can be prevented from solid defense and goaltending. Has there been a human goalie exploit ever? I've been playing OTP since 08 and can't remember one.
I can agree. But with the collision detection and checking being wonky at best, I foresee this new 3s as being a plague that will slowly kill off online gaming for this franchise. EASHL needs to be exploited alot more than it currently is.
Lol well, let's just see everyone's opinion on it being fun 2 weeks after release. Remember me posting this too please
What do you mean by human goalie exploit?
I assume he means like a 'glitch goal'. A shot someone always takes on one spot on the ice that usually goes in.
In that case, there's the Cross-Grain glitch and the Goal-Line shot glitch.
The Arcade 3 vs 3 mode will be fun: simple, mind-numbing, repetitive. Perfect fit for EA's "vision of Hockey". It's basically going to be "Rocket League" on skates.
EASHL 3 vs 3 however... I can see it becoming a cesspool for puck raggers, glitchers and promoting the scrub mentality that's already so prevalent in 1 vs 1 game modes like HUT and VS.
Have you watched 3v3 overtime in the NHL though? NHL teams do just as much puck ragging lol. 3 on 3 is about possession and setting up for grade A chances. It's not about low quality large quantity shots
Hit the nail on the head. Itll be obvious all the thought and work went into the arcade mode/offline campaign and for eashl 3v3 its just minus 2 skaters with human goalies.
Eashl is really getting shafted this year.
I don't know what NHL hockey you've been watching, but when they have 3 on 3 in the NHL it's mostly run-n-gun hockey. Mostly due to the fact that they have only ONE five minute extension to try and get the extra point, not THREE TWENTY MINUTE PERIODS like 3 vs 3 EASHL will allow.
It may depend on the teams sometimes, depend on what situation they're in (if they'd really need the extra point or not). But very rarely will teams fail to take advantage of a golden opportunity to seal the deal in the 3 v 3 OT period.
It was my understanding that 3 v 3 Arcade would also have an Online mode as well? I wouldn't say EASHL is getting the shaft, but we're obviously not getting as many things as we have the last 2 years. Still, if all we get is some much needed fixes to the mechanics and gameplay and tighten things up, I think for us playing in Leagues like LG, it's gonna be really fun and competitive.
We'll see... It all banks on how much EA decides to change stuff with their "updates and tuners". It usually starts out so well, and then the whiners start to complain that they can't score and then it all turns to sh*te...
The only way it's getting shafted imo is it's not getting much added "fluff" that everyone here likes to complain about anyway.
All gameplay improvements are universal so it will improve gameplay in all modes including 2s to 6s.
I just see it as making it even more confusing to tune.When people say this needs fixing or speed needs to be faster or hits need to be more impactful,we now have yet another mode to confuse it with.
In my opinion every mode plays different.Yet people give feedback without saying "btw im referring to offline bap" or whatever mode it may be,and with all these gamemodes,no opinion should go without stating what mode you are trying to address as it shouldnt be perceived as a blanket statement.
Well, if you basically building a whole new/different game with the budget and resources of the original game.. of course it will have a devastating impact on everything that was planned and should have been done to the core and existing modes.
Last year they added EASHL and Franchise jersey and arena creators, HUT synergies, and World Cup of Hockey. This is in my mind takes more time to program than NHLs3.
CPU AI overhaul, defensive skill stick should drastically improve gameplay universally ultimately making EASHL better as well. I assume they made other tweaks to clean up the overall play (pivoting etc...)
It is online, but i dont think it uses eashl classes.
We already know they've made subtle tweaks to the Legacy issues that were plaguing goalies, like smoother transitions into hugging the post and butterfly animations. I also have a hunch there are a few more tweaks that have made their way into the core gameplay that no one knows about yet.
I'll take a cleaning up of the issues that plagued the gameplay these last two years over anything "added" gladly if it means I won't be wishing to throw babies at the devs when I play. LOL!