Maybe the death of EA's NHL series would be a good thing.
Just using this as an example. EA's nascar games were all garbage, and the series died. Now nascar games are made by someone else and are pretty decent. I think the same thing could be good for NHL games as well. Everyone complains and complains and nothing is done. Yet everyone goes out and buys the next year's game and dimos more money into HUT. Stop giving EA your money, and then they may get desperate enough to make a game that people want to play, or the game will die and maybe someone else can get a chance to put something decent out.
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I really believe that without HUT and LG/VG the game would be dead for sure
What's silly is putting a consoles subscription price into the equation,and also its even cheaper if you just get the standard version without the 3 days early access.Im guessing somewhere around 75 bux?Not too shabby if you play 200+ games a year.Most exceed that number by quite a margin as well.
Atleast with NHL14 old gen is more relaxing,cause points wins losses dont matter! people still quit but it doesnt matter.Each new gen game for alot of you it affetcs you and rankings..Old games you dont care.
PS gets DDoS'd but doesn't get hacked. They had that incident years ago but don't mistake DDoS'd for hacked. Your info and account is never in danger.
Well for some people this is not only their goto game but in some cases the ONLY game that they have installed.
I play LD or G so I get more than annoyed a lot of the times with the game.Its the only multi hockey out there so I make do.I am praying for certain changes every year like everyone else.Most times my expectations are not met by a longshot,but until another,better hockey comes around I will be a day one buyer.
If I don't buy each year I take away a sale from them,but until a different title comes down the pipe I would be hurting myself more than I would them.
And lets say that no one buys it and they do go under.How long until another company takes the ball and runs with it and how much longer after that would we wait until they had a product ready play?We are talking many years here.They would be building from the ground up with no template on hand with which to work with.
Then you have to figure that theres a good chance that said game is beyond suck to the point its considered a colossal failure.Theres no guarantee that just because another company takes a stab at it that itll even be playable,much less fun,and this pertains to 2k as well.
This is what we have.So we give our input and hope that it is heard and improved apon.Odds dictate that at some point with one of these iterations they are going to knock it outta the park,and like each passing year for awhile now im hoping this will be the year.If its not well I make the best of it.I will do my best to limit my in game complaining for the benefit of those that enjoy the game immensely.I will brush off the annoying games and savour the fun ones,and their are fun ones.Really fun games that keep me playing until the next year where the process is repeated.
Pray 'N' Play I guess you could call it
Victim blaming! Stay classy.
lol wut? There's nothing at all true about the statement "PSN is too hackable" or whatever "if your console gets hacked" means.
While I see how some might consider it to be victim blaming, you also can't blame PSN for this. That's like blaming your landlord for a break-in when you didn't lock your door.
HUT is slowly dying... Even the big time HUT players and streamers (like NUGE, Jerz, etc), they are all fed up with core HUT gameplay remaining the same for something like 4-5 years now. They need to revamp things. They need to make it harder to get a "Sik Team" on day one. Draft Champ and Competitive Seasons added a little nuance to the mode, but it's still basically HUT. Meaning the player with the better cards (IE: deeper pockets) usually wins, unless one of them knows more exploit goals.
But then games tend to degenerate into which player can get away with the most "toe drag cheese" goals, and then it turns into a blow out. No one wants to play that. If you completely destroy a team, you want it to be off your own skill, not how good you are at scoring cheese goals.
Ya I agree it does need to change, but it won't. Look at the dummies you watch on twitch the first day or 2 of release who spend $500-1000 immediately stacking their team in HUT. That's exactly what EA wants, and I don't blame them for that if there's people dumb enough to spend that much to "rent" virtual cards for 12 months.
If EA makes it harder to obtain that superstar credit card warrior team on day 1, people won't spend as much. As much as I can't stand HUT, the problems with it are 100% on the community of players playing it and tossing money at EA.
I mean, 2 years in a row, I watched howtochel talk about how awesome the game was at game changer events and tell everyone it's the best game ever. Then come release he drops $1000 and within 2-3 weeks he's crying on his streams saying how bad the game is and quits playing. But guess what, he will be right back there for nhl 18 with his credit card feeding them again.
Until a large publisher thinks they can push EA out of the way, hockey is just too small of a market.
It's going to take a publishing company that is absurdly passionate about hockey to take the risk on the market.
2K did well, but even their CEO's felt EA's stranglehold on the market resulted in stagnant sales and/or declining sales.
I know most of you look favorably at the 2K series, and I'd include myself in that group, but it was clear that EA dominated this market and pushed out all of the competition.
I sincerely believe we are 'stuck' with EA's brand of hockey. Unless, like I said above, a publisher decides to take the risk.
Unless that publisher has a solid HUT and EASHL competitor, it would be dead out of the gate IMO.
That being said, 2K's hockey trading card on the IOS platform could be laying the groundwork for a return. Just my opinion, but they're clearly invested in a UT type of mode.
To be honest most of them don't need to put down anything because they are partnered with EA, so they get cards and points to "entice" people who watch the stream to buy "pax" in hopes of getting "sik kards yo"...
Mostly this year, big streamers complained about the Hero sets and how easy it was to get them with a minimum amount of investment. But that didn't solve the issues with the core Gameplay which is so lacking. I remember watching JERZNetwork have the game early (because he pre-ordered) and on that 1st day stream, he already got all the Hero cards and he was destroying everyone. It sorta defeats the purpose of HUT which is to build your team into a powerhouse over time. What fun is there to watch someone have a ridiculously strong team on day one and never waiver?
That's why I'd rather watch smaller streamers like Himoccio, who put down some money, but they mostly build their teams from the wins they get. And it's fun to see those small streamers struggle sometimes with their teams. Makes it all more accessible for the every day knucklehead like me. I'd rather watch Himo play HUT than watch a big time streamer like MillerTime or JERZ just run roughshod over every opponent they come up against. with their overpowered teams.
You don't even really see Himoccio on playing NHL that much any more. I used to see Widlol on a lot too, and can't remember the last time I saw him in a game of hockey. Nothing personal against JERZ either, but that type of game-play is exactly what's wrong with HUT in general. A team full of 99s with 500 synergies activated on day one all because you dropped hundreds of dollars into the game right after you got it? It's pay-to-win and EA fvcking knows it. That's why they do it. $$$$$$$$
Let all the credit card warriors and those streamers who think they have "mad skillz" go up against each other with maxed out teams and watch their reactions when they realize they are facing mirror image teams and the scores run stupidly high.
HUT is the only online mode in nhl now that has a form of progression in building your team. The problem is, if you don't drop the money early on to get those top cards, or wait 2 months into the game to start playing it, you're going up against team Canada every game and at a disadvantage all the time. Therefore I think a lot of players that aren't going to sink the money into the mode just don't even bother playing because it's intimidating for people to be at such a disadvantage all the time.