TPS still the plague of this series.
Wonky unresponsive controls.
Skating simulator gone bad
Megaman was successful in large part because of its crisp controls. Most games are.
Playing defense is once again a mess. Sure...the defensive skill stick helps. The skating is atrocious. I feel like a 3 year old learning to skate and pivot for the first time all over again. NOT the experience I am seeking when playing an NHL (emphasis on NHL) game.
your TPS is like exaggerated skating simulation. Everything is amplified....there is no such thing as a quick braking / going...its full fledge braking that takes forever and drop you to 0 momentum then full fledge long strides etc. its hard to describe but it feels (emphasis on FEEL) terrible.
Im going to continue NOT buying an NHL game up to such a point where the TPS is gone or at least completely redesigned.
Skating simulator gone bad
Megaman was successful in large part because of its crisp controls. Most games are.
Playing defense is once again a mess. Sure...the defensive skill stick helps. The skating is atrocious. I feel like a 3 year old learning to skate and pivot for the first time all over again. NOT the experience I am seeking when playing an NHL (emphasis on NHL) game.
your TPS is like exaggerated skating simulation. Everything is amplified....there is no such thing as a quick braking / going...its full fledge braking that takes forever and drop you to 0 momentum then full fledge long strides etc. its hard to describe but it feels (emphasis on FEEL) terrible.
Im going to continue NOT buying an NHL game up to such a point where the TPS is gone or at least completely redesigned.
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I mean, the last game we played we were winning 5-2 but couldnt wait for the game to end
its just soooo boring now.
It's a mess, because it's not well done, not because it's skating simulator.
Skating in reality looks very different than what we have now in the game. Actually NHL 13 skating felt more like a simulation, worked better and looked little more polished.
They made very few changes in skating in in all 6 years and all of them for the worse. That's the problem. From some reason they keep spending resources on things that adds very little to the core. Thus making another holes that needs another fixing. But they don't have man power for that.
Anw.
We need build the skating engine from the ground up for 19 and this time for real.
PS can't really comment seriously 18. Haven't played it myself yet. Just saw vids
No, it is 100% because they are trying to simulate real world skating that it fails.
Its trying to simulate all the edges and little things that could go WRONG with skating (stop and start, sharp turns, pivoting) but using a controller to try and mimic what you would do instinctively with 2 feet.
Walking and running is simple. I can run in circle I can do side steps I can stop and go etc but did you ever try one of those nintendo olympic games back in the days that tried to simulate running by putting controls on each legs? its horrible. But at least in that game, the ENTIRE point was to run....so it didnt distract from anything else.
In this game, skating is a portion of the game and it distracts HEAVILY from the MAIN reason you want to play this game....HOCKEY....stick and pucks. The thing you can do on skates, rollerblades, shoes, on your knees with mini sticks, etc.
Its ok to have some physics that resemble skating IRL but only to an extent. Like you said, 13 felt and looked much better than this mess today. Whoever says "oh but it wasnt as realistic" clearly is blindfolded and ignoring just how much less realistic it is to see these "nhl" players who look like they have a brain tumor while skating and pivoting.
Everything is vastly exaggerated. plus the controls are just not responsive. Plus you have no control over doing little things you could do if you actually controlled your skates. It feels like driving a schoolbus with summer tires on an ice half the time. its just pure trash.
This is the problem here. I've stated this years ago and it holds true today. This is supposed to be a HOCKEY game/simulator, not a SKATING simulator. They have the balance all backwards. They put so much emphasis on the skating that they neglect the simple hockey things. It didn't used to be that way. I started out in the NHL 08-09-10 era, and even though I didn't win-em-all those games were a BLAST.
I understand the need for physics and momentum, but this is HOCKEY before it is SKATING. The hockey has to come first, and right now I don't see that happening.
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It's not fun for you nor me, because it's not realistic nor arcade?
It's just somewhere in between, thus frustrates both of us?
That's how I see it.
There is some kind of momentum thing programmed in there that still produces momentum when there should be none. This is what probably explains the inexplicable warping/launching of players, especially when the walls are involved. I can't take much more of people just using the boards as trampolines when there's nowhere to go.
im a horrible skater IRL but i skate better than an NHLer based on this game.
Define what you mean by horrible.
I think some people believe they are "horrible" when they cant do some physical activity at a professional level.
Just because you can't skate backwards doesnt make you a terrible ice skater imo. You can still be quite good at speed skating.
I have a rare neuropathy (CMT) which you cant really tell if you'd see me in person that anything is wrong with me but it impacts my balance and reflexes a lot. Despite this, and being told I would never skate or play high reflex sports like goaltending, I was an amazing goaltender (played angle better to compensate for slower glove side) and I did manage to skate but probably the equivalent level of an average 8 year old. I still feel I can do a better job at moving around on the ice than I feel when playing this game in EASHL most of the time. Maybe its a slight exaggeration because id fall more often but I certainly feel a lot closer to my own real life skill level than that of an NHL player.