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EASHL Unplayable again. What a surprise.

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  • joefitz22 wrote: »
    Sgt_Kelso wrote: »
    Yes, that's the answer: just replace all the wiring from your house to EA servers! Glad we finally solved the issue. :thumbsup:

    LOL! Nicely done!

    Me to my 7yr old Daughter: I'm sorry honey, I know you love Gymnastics and Dance classes but daddy needs that money to replace all the wiring in the house so he can play EA NHL games lag free from here on out

    Here in Finland we have this thing called "consumer rights", all the work the ISP did cost me nothing. The wiring inside the house cost me about 3$.
  • Just fyi, upload speed is critical to playing lag/delay free. Download alone isn't enough
    Sure, but like @milesizdead said earlier:
    I play on ADSL 10/1 -connection...
    ...DL/UL matters little compared to latency in gaming, unless you're streaming of course, then you need a decent upload speed.
    ...shows it's not that critical.

    Actually couple friends of mine have adsl with 1M upload and they say it plays very well.

    I think it depends more on "routing" than anything (if everything else is ok in your end). By routing I mean the "data path" you get to EA servers (or to your opponent in vs/hut).

    But on the other hand, could this "routing" change that much game by game?

    Because there are games when everything feels so much better, let's say perfect.

    And the difference is like night and day.
  • You don't need a killer speed to play lag free. The most important things are the quality of the cables they run to your house and how far away you are from the main box for internet.

  • RSall14
    574 posts Member
    edited September 2017
    I'd like to know what changed from last gen to current in terms of connections. I never got delay from any of the last gen NHL games. Occasionally I would get fat man lag but that was when I used wifi. Back then fat man lag wasn't nearly as bad as it is now. You would still be able to play and compete. As soon as I switched to a wired connection I had no issues. Now with the current gen games I get delay if I don't play on the west servers.
  • location...location... location...

    i find in apartments DSL is better than cable.
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  • Follisimo wrote: »
    You don't need a killer speed to play lag free. The most important things are the quality of the cables they run to your house and how far away you are from the main box for internet.

    except i play on Fiber, and fiber just became available in my hood like 3 years ago and the main hub for their fiber network for my area is literally set up outside my house. There's something going on, I'm not going to write off the fact that it might be something on my ISPs end, but I've exhausted every option I have on my end and still experience the same issues.

    I really think a centralized server location would go a long way, but maybe it's as simple as that Eastern hop at EAs security server out East that is really the culprit. We'll never know i suppose, all i know for certain is that playing this game with any delay/lag is a huge disadvantage and one that cripples the gameplay for me. Unfortunately this has led to me all but putting the game down and not playing anymore (haven't bought 18 and doubt i will, but i do gameshare with someone who bought it)
  • Follisimo wrote: »
    You don't need a killer speed to play lag free. The most important things are the quality of the cables they run to your house and how far away you are from the main box for internet.

    except i play on Fiber, and fiber just became available in my hood like 3 years ago and the main hub for their fiber network for my area is literally set up outside my house. There's something going on, I'm not going to write off the fact that it might be something on my ISPs end, but I've exhausted every option I have on my end and still experience the same issues.

    I really think a centralized server location would go a long way, but maybe it's as simple as that Eastern hop at EAs security server out East that is really the culprit. We'll never know i suppose, all i know for certain is that playing this game with any delay/lag is a huge disadvantage and one that cripples the gameplay for me. Unfortunately this has led to me all but putting the game down and not playing anymore (haven't bought 18 and doubt i will, but i do gameshare with someone who bought it)

    Do you have a modem/router that can handle the fiber speeds?
  • Sinbin wrote: »
    Follisimo wrote: »
    You don't need a killer speed to play lag free. The most important things are the quality of the cables they run to your house and how far away you are from the main box for internet.

    except i play on Fiber, and fiber just became available in my hood like 3 years ago and the main hub for their fiber network for my area is literally set up outside my house. There's something going on, I'm not going to write off the fact that it might be something on my ISPs end, but I've exhausted every option I have on my end and still experience the same issues.

    I really think a centralized server location would go a long way, but maybe it's as simple as that Eastern hop at EAs security server out East that is really the culprit. We'll never know i suppose, all i know for certain is that playing this game with any delay/lag is a huge disadvantage and one that cripples the gameplay for me. Unfortunately this has led to me all but putting the game down and not playing anymore (haven't bought 18 and doubt i will, but i do gameshare with someone who bought it)

    Do you have a modem/router that can handle the fiber speeds?

    Wow.... Just... Wow.
  • VeNOM2099 wrote: »
    Sinbin wrote: »
    Follisimo wrote: »
    You don't need a killer speed to play lag free. The most important things are the quality of the cables they run to your house and how far away you are from the main box for internet.

    except i play on Fiber, and fiber just became available in my hood like 3 years ago and the main hub for their fiber network for my area is literally set up outside my house. There's something going on, I'm not going to write off the fact that it might be something on my ISPs end, but I've exhausted every option I have on my end and still experience the same issues.

    I really think a centralized server location would go a long way, but maybe it's as simple as that Eastern hop at EAs security server out East that is really the culprit. We'll never know i suppose, all i know for certain is that playing this game with any delay/lag is a huge disadvantage and one that cripples the gameplay for me. Unfortunately this has led to me all but putting the game down and not playing anymore (haven't bought 18 and doubt i will, but i do gameshare with someone who bought it)

    Do you have a modem/router that can handle the fiber speeds?

    Wow.... Just... Wow.

    Sinbin will look for any excuse imaginable rather than ever have to admit that EA might be responsible for a problem.
  • Bmh245 wrote: »
    VeNOM2099 wrote: »
    Sinbin wrote: »
    Follisimo wrote: »
    You don't need a killer speed to play lag free. The most important things are the quality of the cables they run to your house and how far away you are from the main box for internet.

    except i play on Fiber, and fiber just became available in my hood like 3 years ago and the main hub for their fiber network for my area is literally set up outside my house. There's something going on, I'm not going to write off the fact that it might be something on my ISPs end, but I've exhausted every option I have on my end and still experience the same issues.

    I really think a centralized server location would go a long way, but maybe it's as simple as that Eastern hop at EAs security server out East that is really the culprit. We'll never know i suppose, all i know for certain is that playing this game with any delay/lag is a huge disadvantage and one that cripples the gameplay for me. Unfortunately this has led to me all but putting the game down and not playing anymore (haven't bought 18 and doubt i will, but i do gameshare with someone who bought it)

    Do you have a modem/router that can handle the fiber speeds?

    Wow.... Just... Wow.

    Sinbin will look for any excuse imaginable rather than ever have to admit that EA might be responsible for a problem.

    Hardware issues aren't unreasonable. I have my own issues with the game. They just aren't related to connections.
  • Sinbin wrote: »
    Bmh245 wrote: »
    VeNOM2099 wrote: »
    Sinbin wrote: »
    Follisimo wrote: »
    You don't need a killer speed to play lag free. The most important things are the quality of the cables they run to your house and how far away you are from the main box for internet.

    except i play on Fiber, and fiber just became available in my hood like 3 years ago and the main hub for their fiber network for my area is literally set up outside my house. There's something going on, I'm not going to write off the fact that it might be something on my ISPs end, but I've exhausted every option I have on my end and still experience the same issues.

    I really think a centralized server location would go a long way, but maybe it's as simple as that Eastern hop at EAs security server out East that is really the culprit. We'll never know i suppose, all i know for certain is that playing this game with any delay/lag is a huge disadvantage and one that cripples the gameplay for me. Unfortunately this has led to me all but putting the game down and not playing anymore (haven't bought 18 and doubt i will, but i do gameshare with someone who bought it)

    Do you have a modem/router that can handle the fiber speeds?

    Wow.... Just... Wow.

    Sinbin will look for any excuse imaginable rather than ever have to admit that EA might be responsible for a problem.

    Hardware issues aren't unreasonable. I have my own issues with the game. They just aren't related to connections.

    That's a fine thing but how is it my standard issue Verizon Fios router could handle me playing COD or AC:Blag Flag online (with minimal lag) while my wife was on her iPad (also online) but when I switched over to EA NHL, I got a ton of lag?

    I shouldn't have to own 10 different specialty routers or have my entire house rewired to play a video game!

    Playing NHL, Human controlled player just stops skating for no reason at all, was told (by EA fanboys on this forum) that it's a controller issue, try buying a wired controller! I go out and buy a Brand New WIRED controller, still have human controlled skaters stopping for no reason but yet both old/new controller works just fine while playing COD, Red Dead, AC, etc etc etc!
  • Follisimo wrote: »
    You don't need a killer speed to play lag free. The most important things are the quality of the cables they run to your house and how far away you are from the main box for internet.

    except i play on Fiber, and fiber just became available in my hood like 3 years ago and the main hub for their fiber network for my area is literally set up outside my house. There's something going on, I'm not going to write off the fact that it might be something on my ISPs end, but I've exhausted every option I have on my end and still experience the same issues.

    I really think a centralized server location would go a long way, but maybe it's as simple as that Eastern hop at EAs security server out East that is really the culprit. We'll never know i suppose, all i know for certain is that playing this game with any delay/lag is a huge disadvantage and one that cripples the gameplay for me. Unfortunately this has led to me all but putting the game down and not playing anymore (haven't bought 18 and doubt i will, but i do gameshare with someone who bought it)

    Who is your fiber company?

  • RSall14 wrote: »
    I'd like to know what changed from last gen to current in terms of connections. I never got delay from any of the last gen NHL games. Occasionally I would get fat man lag but that was when I used wifi. Back then fat man lag wasn't nearly as bad as it is now. You would still be able to play and compete. As soon as I switched to a wired connection I had no issues. Now with the current gen games I get delay if I don't play on the west servers.

    Pretty much new engines calculating more things with higher resolutions. The Ignite engine didn't last very long. If NHL goes to Frostbite it could help a tiny bit with the game being more smooth but overall it's just better eye candy ability.

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  • jimfromfiles
    6 posts Member
    edited September 2017
    hopefully ea still isn't routing NA servers through Ireland. I've kept that Ireland ip block on my router just in case
  • See those saying "check your hardware" do you miss the part in almost all of these posts where they say these issues only exist on one of the games they play? That'd be like me playing any one of 20 different online games. All of a sudden I start lagging in one of them. Must be my router... Or maybe it's someone else on the internet in the house, maybe it's something up with that games servers.

    Usually when it's one specific game having the problem it is something with how the connections of that game are handled, aka, netcode. EA's netcode has always been pretty suspect and it's clear it still is with some of the posts about how they route the connections all over the place for no reason.
  • Follisimo wrote: »
    RSall14 wrote: »
    I'd like to know what changed from last gen to current in terms of connections. I never got delay from any of the last gen NHL games. Occasionally I would get fat man lag but that was when I used wifi. Back then fat man lag wasn't nearly as bad as it is now. You would still be able to play and compete. As soon as I switched to a wired connection I had no issues. Now with the current gen games I get delay if I don't play on the west servers.

    Pretty much new engines calculating more things with higher resolutions. The Ignite engine didn't last very long. If NHL goes to Frostbite it could help a tiny bit with the game being more smooth but overall it's just better eye candy ability.
    i would figure that only information going over the internet is what button your pressing at any given time and the rest is handled by you ps4 system on your end.
    on a side note: they really should go 60fps already. it would make the inputs so much more responsive. big problem in resent years has been the unresponsiveness of the controls. everything feeling clunky. fps should always go before graphics imo.
  • Sinbin wrote: »
    Bmh245 wrote: »
    VeNOM2099 wrote: »
    Sinbin wrote: »
    Follisimo wrote: »
    You don't need a killer speed to play lag free. The most important things are the quality of the cables they run to your house and how far away you are from the main box for internet.

    except i play on Fiber, and fiber just became available in my hood like 3 years ago and the main hub for their fiber network for my area is literally set up outside my house. There's something going on, I'm not going to write off the fact that it might be something on my ISPs end, but I've exhausted every option I have on my end and still experience the same issues.

    I really think a centralized server location would go a long way, but maybe it's as simple as that Eastern hop at EAs security server out East that is really the culprit. We'll never know i suppose, all i know for certain is that playing this game with any delay/lag is a huge disadvantage and one that cripples the gameplay for me. Unfortunately this has led to me all but putting the game down and not playing anymore (haven't bought 18 and doubt i will, but i do gameshare with someone who bought it)

    Do you have a modem/router that can handle the fiber speeds?

    Wow.... Just... Wow.

    Sinbin will look for any excuse imaginable rather than ever have to admit that EA might be responsible for a problem.

    Hardware issues aren't unreasonable. I have my own issues with the game. They just aren't related to connections.

    Except that there are no "low speed" capable routers... If you were geniunely trying to be helpful in this thread, you might have (smartly) tried looking up something you CLEARLY have ZERO knowledge about.

    As always, you are simply trying to kiss up to EA. Problem is you're just making yourself (and them) look foolish with every post where you're clearly trying smooch their derrière instead of actually trying to be helpful to your fellow community member.

    As for the issue, I'm not a network specialist, but from what I do know, I'm guessing that the main issue is how the game distributes the player base throughout the different EA Servers (east and west) automatically. I can understand why EA may be preventing users from specifying a preferred server (so that any one server doesn't become over saturated). Still, it would be a nice option to have. And if our preferred server is too full, then a simple prompt telling us that there are too many people and if we'd like to be moved to another server (yes/no) would help ease people's frustrating experience online with this series.
  • Follisimo wrote: »
    RSall14 wrote: »
    I'd like to know what changed from last gen to current in terms of connections. I never got delay from any of the last gen NHL games. Occasionally I would get fat man lag but that was when I used wifi. Back then fat man lag wasn't nearly as bad as it is now. You would still be able to play and compete. As soon as I switched to a wired connection I had no issues. Now with the current gen games I get delay if I don't play on the west servers.

    Pretty much new engines calculating more things with higher resolutions. The Ignite engine didn't last very long. If NHL goes to Frostbite it could help a tiny bit with the game being more smooth but overall it's just better eye candy ability.
    i would figure that only information going over the internet is what button your pressing at any given time and the rest is handled by you ps4 system on your end.
    on a side note: they really should go 60fps already. it would make the inputs so much more responsive. big problem in resent years has been the unresponsiveness of the controls. everything feeling clunky. fps should always go before graphics imo.

    Pretty sure it runs at 60fps. The real issue is on EA's end. They've already admitted to it and stated they have no idea how to fix it. This dates back to last year's game so don't expect them to fix it any time soon.

    Just don't buy the game if you're interested in playing online.
  • While in a game, look at the Network Statistics, what ping are you getting?
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