Terrible game.
September 18, 2017 11:33PM
edited September 2017
They deleted my last post. I stated that you can't move your players. Everyone spams poke check which is WAY over powered. Letting terrible players win games that the better player should have won by 10. Same three goals over and over and over. They should be embarrassed that they even put this game out for sale.
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I even gave it a small chance on EA Access yesterday to see if the full release was any different. One and a half games later was enough for me. Got my refund for EA Access and that's that.
I may have to go back on the 360 and see what it looks like over there since I have 13 days of Live Gold left. That's the last time I really enjoyed an EA NHL game.
I know right? Like.. you're the best player in this game. The fact you lost just goes to show how this game's ice tilt is out to get you and it favors the crappy players!!! ARGGH! So frustrating!!!
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The problem is likely the subject of your post. Im assuming they are told to censure as much of that stuff as possible at release because it will cost them sales if people go on forums and see a bunch of topics named "this game sucks"
As far as your feedback:
I agree that:
TPS is unfun especially mixed with network issues (fat man lag etc)
Terrible players winning games. Although this isn't a regular occurrence, there are more chances than ever in these games for bad players with little hockey knowledge to compete vs players with hockey knowledge. Overall though, winning or losing feels equally unfun at least to me and everyone I know who played.
I disagree that:
Poke is OP. I think poke "spam" has always been a way to simulate many things you cannot really do with your body and stick on defense and it may look weird but it makes the game flow more realistically by limiting offense and makes well executed offensive plays feel more rewarding. Problem is then the AI goalie will make a casual miracle save.
Another constructive post. Im sure that somehow you feel that his post is toxic and not yours, ironically, when its 100% the other way around. He's frustrated, you're toxic. learn the difference.
What's funny and sad is that the post you're being condescending toward is completely accurate and your innocuous attempt at sarcasm just shows that there is no convincing EA and those that represent them that the game has been severely lacking for years. Let's not pretend for a second that highly skilled and even above averagr players aren't handicapped by poor programming and lacking gameplay. How long have we been up in arms over the atrocious skating? Literally years. And that's 1 example.
Upload a game of you playing. I hate to be that guy but the forum is riddled with these posts. Is the game perfect? No, I have a collection of wacky plays. But I think overall it's an improvement over last year. The only nerf poking should get is from behind and only if it doesn't break the mechanic. If people score the same three ways on you, then maybe get better at defending those three ways. You should be embarrassed at your lack up substance in your post.
So, based on that bolded comment, 3 options:
1-Its a conspiracy against EA.
2-Its one user making tons of accounts to make the same complaint.
3-Its actually an issue.
Ponder on it for a while and let me know which option seems more realistic to you.
And the funny thing is most of the users complaining don't have any actual gameplay footage to point out issues. Just blanket statements like the title of this thread. At least bmh, venom, and some other power users point out specific issues with videos and well written points.
I'm enjoying my time with the game so far, which is my opinion. Bugs/glitches And issues that I find are saved on my system to be posted here with substance.
To many entitled people use this forum, not everyone is going to get what they want for their vision of the game.
Every single aspect of the game is a chore. Skating, shooting, picking pucks up all feel like they have dice-roll elements to them. It's too much. EA doesn't make simulation hockey well, they make arcade hockey way better. It's time they just stick to what they are good at and stop trying to be simulation because this model isn't working and the result is boring gameplay mechanics.
Then EA goes all "help, I need my safe space" andhide away from responding to anyone and actually opening a dialog because people might be rather frustrated with them. This in turn compounds the issue of people feeling frustration, coming on here to vent that to try and help themselves not feel so frustrated hoping to hear a response from someone even if just to say, "We can see why this would be frustrating. Why don't you calm down some and we can talk about this respectfully."
I mean the number of hostile toxic type threads and issues that arise on other early access games (EA) is astounding, the difference comes when that dev doesn't just delete the posts but does put some effort towards trying to talk with the user and actually help them though. If they are just full on rage mode, maybe they will try to let them cool and try again later. It's only after all avenues have been exhausted that they cut off communication, but with that specific person only, not with everyone.
To the Bolded part, EXACTLY! The video evidence is out there in cyberspace to be viewed. IF people are that lazy that they can't go on YouTube to look up said video evidence then that is on them!
It would be good to hear what Bmh has to say this year. Although not perfect, there were improvements made to what I would have said were his top items (stick on stick/puck collisions, ai defensive assignments (specifically covering the point when in tight point strategy from both the defense in zone and the backchecker coming back off the rush with less collapsing. We also made improvements to the pivots so that you don't get that double turn even if you rotate the stick quicker than your player (one of the cases that was mentioned a few times last year and we had looked at video examples of).
We can go through a lot of the other changes as well but I don't blame you guys for wanting more at all. Whole reason I continue working here is because I want more as well. I certainly wouldn't deny the improvements the team has made though. I think they have made some noticeable change in a lot of areas and although they may not have fixed all of your issues or to the full extent you wanted, a lot of what they did address were based on top requests from the community when it comes to mechanics and core ai changes.
oh the small percentage of forum users i love that one.
What about my 22 friends who USED to play NHL who all left for very similar reasons and who dont post in the forums. and that's JUST the people I happen to know.
Where is your video evidence that the game has no issues and that everyone loves it? where is your evidence of this "small forum majority".
I never said it didn't have it's issues nor that everyone loves it, which is opinion based anyways. And thousand of people purchase the game and there arnt thousands of people on the forums complaining about it.
And I think it's great that you're around and it's much appreciated but WHERE ARE THE VIDEOS that prove Stick on Puck Collision will work consistently during a 60min game
This is what I am talking about! WHAT Game mechanic decides that #16 skate is INVISIBLE while Malkins Stick remains SOLID and in control of the puck. IF the puck (solid object) would hit the skate (solid object) the puck should become un-glued from Malkins stick! So it makes it appear that the GAME MECHANIC is favoring one player over the other in that particular situation! IF Malkins stick is deemed SOLID, shouldn't #16s skate also be deemed SOLID at the same time, same situation?? What DECIDES when an object will be SOLID or INVISIBLE at any given situation during the game
NHL 18
Score: 6.5 / 10
Platform: PS4, Xbox One
Publisher: Electronic Arts
Developer: EA Canada
Release Date: 2017-09-15
- Polygon
I dont want more, I want less. Like about 1 TPS less to be specific :P
TPS alone is 100% ruining the experience for me. Its just so darn clunky and unfun to fight with especially when you get fat man lag.
3s is great , customizable eashl rinks mascotts whatever else is great, defensive skill stick is great, but darnit its so darn unfun to play the game now, its like work.
it doesnt really matter anymore how much changes you make to the game modes unless the game becomes fun and exciting to play again. Im sure some people have fun with it but I can tell you first hand that tons of people arent anymore and most of the issues occur from lack of control or in other word, TPS.
the AI spiderman goalie doesnt help but if players had better control, it would be more fun to actually play hockey instead of playing skating.
I should add that in the beta at least, the pivots didnt feel that much better to me as a defender. it was frustrating. The stop and go are frustrating. You always feel flat foot and vulnerable.