All the problems discussed previously are in this video. Thank you for posting this proof.
Please point them out. Neither player had an issue picking the player they needed. Maybe you should watch it again
Why do you always nitpick at little details while playing the ostrich with its head in the sand? You know exactly what he is talking about. You are free to express yourself any single way you wish, but then don't ask why there is friction with you and others. This is a classic example. Come on man, you have great knowledge of this game and have super cool interactions when you want to. That's the Kory I would want to read on these forums. We have had some really great interactions before (and yes, some friction) but in the end we still find ways to be constructive and I think it can than help this franchise grow.
Anyways, the point was, other than player switching, this video has every single detail from pretty much every gameplay complaint expressed here. No debating that.
Well I thought that video couldn't possible be all that bad as they're supposed to be top players.... nope, it was far, far worse. Top points for sleaze!
Both of those players would light us all up on these forums. No doubt about it.
Hehe, I am sure at least 90% of us here would get destroyed by these 2 guys. Myself included.
All the problems discussed previously are in this video. Thank you for posting this proof.
Please point them out. Neither player had an issue picking the player they needed. Maybe you should watch it again
Why do you always nitpick at little details while playing the ostrich with its head in the sand? You know exactly what he is talking about. You are free to express yourself any single way you wish, but then don't ask why there is friction with you and others. This is a classic example. Come on man, you have great knowledge of this game and have super cool interactions when you want to. That's the Kory I would want to read on these forums. We have had some really great interactions before (and yes, some friction) but in the end we still find ways to be constructive and I think it can than help this franchise grow.
Anyways, the point was, other than player switching, this video has every single detail from pretty much every gameplay complaint expressed here. No debating that.
To be fair, there really wasn't any player switching issues in that video. Both players defended incredibly well and managed the gap perfectly. This is only accomplished with very precise player selection. It's not perfect by any means, but it's night and day compared to '18.
I very much see your point and I do agree; the strategies and maneuvers pulled off in the video above are not indicative of the real sport.
That being said - watching two high level players compete like that brings a 'real' part of hockey in to the fold that EA can't simulate' excitement. That game was intense, and although it was a matter of who was going to give in to those fancy moves first - it was thrilling and engaging to watch.
I think that once people understand that this game will never be able to recreate all aspects of hockey - those people will be happier to play the game and compete online.
Many people feel that their 'hockey knowledge' should translate to being dominant at NHL '19 online. And they feel the current state of the game limits their ability to execute on their 'hockey knowledge' and that's an valid and reasonable point to make.
That said, my point is always - it will NEVER get to be 100% sim. Your 'hockey knowledge' will allow you to be above average at SOME elements of the gameplay that are very solid - but you need to adapt and allow the 'videogame' mentality to creep in from time to time so that you do stay competitive versus the people who see this game for what it is: a videogame that can be mastered.
So what? Did you notice that these super great players can barely stop the other player when one is doing that dangly spin dance? It take about four players from a team to dislodge the puck... so either they're not so good on defence, or that style of play is really difficult to stop?
So does this mean that they really suck at defence, or could it be that it's much too difficult to play d when one is abusing the system?
All the problems discussed previously are in this video. Thank you for posting this proof.
Please point them out. Neither player had an issue picking the player they needed. Maybe you should watch it again
Why do you always nitpick at little details while playing the ostrich with its head in the sand? You know exactly what he is talking about. You are free to express yourself any single way you wish, but then don't ask why there is friction with you and others. This is a classic example. Come on man, you have great knowledge of this game and have super cool interactions when you want to. That's the Kory I would want to read on these forums. We have had some really great interactions before (and yes, some friction) but in the end we still find ways to be constructive and I think it can than help this franchise grow.
Anyways, the point was, other than player switching, this video has every single detail from pretty much every gameplay complaint expressed here. No debating that.
To be fair, there really wasn't any player switching issues in that video. Both players defended incredibly well and managed the gap perfectly. This is only accomplished with very precise player selection. It's not perfect by any means, but it's night and day compared to '18.
I very much see your point and I do agree; the strategies and maneuvers pulled off in the video above are not indicative of the real sport.
That being said - watching two high level players compete like that brings a 'real' part of hockey in to the fold that EA can't simulate' excitement. That game was intense, and although it was a matter of who was going to give in to those fancy moves first - it was thrilling and engaging to watch.
I think that once people understand that this game will never be able to recreate all aspects of hockey - those people will be happier to play the game and compete online.
Many people feel that their 'hockey knowledge' should translate to being dominant at NHL '19 online. And they feel the current state of the game limits their ability to execute on their 'hockey knowledge' and that's an valid and reasonable point to make.
That said, my point is always - it will NEVER get to be 100% sim. Your 'hockey knowledge' will allow you to be above average at SOME elements of the gameplay that are very solid - but you need to adapt and allow the 'videogame' mentality to creep in from time to time so that you do stay competitive versus the people who see this game for what it is: a videogame that can be mastered.
Well, I mean, yea it is a video game and can't be 100% sim. But it is sometimes irritating to hear that D can't do certain things because of limitations of the body or weight transfers and realisms and etc... when you can watch a game like this and see 2 forwards doing things on their skates that just can't be done in real life. Worse yet, they get rewarded for it and even these top 2 guys ignore 90% of real life hockey strategies because they are simply not worth it. Cheese is the ultimate way to win and is a must if you wanna compete. Some like it, some don't. If I never played real life hockey maybe I would see it more as video game hockey and not care about my complaints I post here much too often. But that isn't the case.
Honestly I can see why one would say that it was an intense game, but I see it extremely differently. I mean, it was insulting and all that goes through my head in watching those types of games is oh my god, really??
The NHL is very exciting to watch yet has none of this cheese. I think it is on EA to make an exciting game that doesn't rely on cheese. The sport itself is exciting, no?
The main issue with back skating with the puck as a valid offence tactic is, in addition to far too good puck control (imho), the godlike perspective you have on the play. I mean you look at the game from up, and can see everything (well nearly, depending on your camera).
Whereas in real hockey you don't have eyes in the back of your neck, and you make yourself extremely vulnerable when you do this. Which is why real players don't mostly.
Add to that the njah njah, you can't poke me factor, and you get crap like this.
All the problems discussed previously are in this video. Thank you for posting this proof.
Please point them out. Neither player had an issue picking the player they needed. Maybe you should watch it again
It's beating a dead horse at this point if I were to repeat what I've been saying these last few weeks. Others brought it up in this thread. You posted a video that proves these problems exist. Not sure what else to tell you.
Well I thought that video couldn't possible be all that bad as they're supposed to be top players.... nope, it was far, far worse. Top points for sleaze!
Both of those players would light us all up on these forums. No doubt about it.
Scoring a bunch of goals correlates to the quality of this game? Would like to know how that is?
What I see is players moving unnaturally...NHL players dont jitter and shake like this. Realistic this game is not. Honestly if I played like this and didn't get knocked on my keaster,that is a problem even for me.
spoken like someone who has actually played the game of hockey.
Just what I like to see. Jittery puck movement for 20 minutes, backward figure skating into the zone, players sticks disappearing so deep into the boards, and everyone standing around waiting for the puck carrier to get an opening. It’s a shame such play styles are awarded!
What I see is players moving unnaturally...NHL players dont jitter and shake like this. Realistic this game is not. Honestly if I played like this and didn't get knocked on my keaster,that is a problem even for me.
spoken like someone who has actually played the game of hockey.
Anyone who looks to videogames as a 100% visual representation of something - especially sports - will always be disappointed.
Not necessarily someone who has "actually played the game of hockey" and more so someone who has crazy expectations of what videogames can offer in terms of realism.
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Why do you always nitpick at little details while playing the ostrich with its head in the sand? You know exactly what he is talking about. You are free to express yourself any single way you wish, but then don't ask why there is friction with you and others. This is a classic example. Come on man, you have great knowledge of this game and have super cool interactions when you want to. That's the Kory I would want to read on these forums. We have had some really great interactions before (and yes, some friction) but in the end we still find ways to be constructive and I think it can than help this franchise grow.
Anyways, the point was, other than player switching, this video has every single detail from pretty much every gameplay complaint expressed here. No debating that.
Hehe, I am sure at least 90% of us here would get destroyed by these 2 guys. Myself included.
To be fair, there really wasn't any player switching issues in that video. Both players defended incredibly well and managed the gap perfectly. This is only accomplished with very precise player selection. It's not perfect by any means, but it's night and day compared to '18.
I very much see your point and I do agree; the strategies and maneuvers pulled off in the video above are not indicative of the real sport.
That being said - watching two high level players compete like that brings a 'real' part of hockey in to the fold that EA can't simulate' excitement. That game was intense, and although it was a matter of who was going to give in to those fancy moves first - it was thrilling and engaging to watch.
I think that once people understand that this game will never be able to recreate all aspects of hockey - those people will be happier to play the game and compete online.
Many people feel that their 'hockey knowledge' should translate to being dominant at NHL '19 online. And they feel the current state of the game limits their ability to execute on their 'hockey knowledge' and that's an valid and reasonable point to make.
That said, my point is always - it will NEVER get to be 100% sim. Your 'hockey knowledge' will allow you to be above average at SOME elements of the gameplay that are very solid - but you need to adapt and allow the 'videogame' mentality to creep in from time to time so that you do stay competitive versus the people who see this game for what it is: a videogame that can be mastered.
So does this mean that they really suck at defence, or could it be that it's much too difficult to play d when one is abusing the system?
Well, I mean, yea it is a video game and can't be 100% sim. But it is sometimes irritating to hear that D can't do certain things because of limitations of the body or weight transfers and realisms and etc... when you can watch a game like this and see 2 forwards doing things on their skates that just can't be done in real life. Worse yet, they get rewarded for it and even these top 2 guys ignore 90% of real life hockey strategies because they are simply not worth it. Cheese is the ultimate way to win and is a must if you wanna compete. Some like it, some don't. If I never played real life hockey maybe I would see it more as video game hockey and not care about my complaints I post here much too often. But that isn't the case.
Honestly I can see why one would say that it was an intense game, but I see it extremely differently. I mean, it was insulting and all that goes through my head in watching those types of games is oh my god, really??
The NHL is very exciting to watch yet has none of this cheese. I think it is on EA to make an exciting game that doesn't rely on cheese. The sport itself is exciting, no?
Excellent debate Kory. Welcome back.
Whereas in real hockey you don't have eyes in the back of your neck, and you make yourself extremely vulnerable when you do this. Which is why real players don't mostly.
Add to that the njah njah, you can't poke me factor, and you get crap like this.
It's beating a dead horse at this point if I were to repeat what I've been saying these last few weeks. Others brought it up in this thread. You posted a video that proves these problems exist. Not sure what else to tell you.
Scoring a bunch of goals correlates to the quality of this game? Would like to know how that is?
spoken like someone who has actually played the game of hockey.
and to think, that's "elite" lol
Anyone who looks to videogames as a 100% visual representation of something - especially sports - will always be disappointed.
Not necessarily someone who has "actually played the game of hockey" and more so someone who has crazy expectations of what videogames can offer in terms of realism.