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BETA TUNER DETAILS + FEEDBACK THREAD

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Ty_Hors
60 posts EA Staff (retired)
edited January 2019
Hey NHL Community,

We just wanted to start this thread off by saying thank you for your participation and feedback on the current gameplay tuner! We received a lot of feedback that we are currently collecting, as well as collecting your responses in the forums. As we reach the final stages of the Beta tuner rollback, the current gameplay tuner survey will close Wednesday, January 16th @ 3 PM PT.

BETA TUNER DETAILS
  • WHEN: Friday, January 18th at 02:00 AM PT until Friday, January 25th at 02:00 AM PT*
  • WHERE: All Online Modes (Offline users can switch back to it through settings; explained below)
  • WHAT TUNER WILL THIS BE: Tuner 1.00 from the NHL 19 Beta that was released on August 2nd

*UPDATE: Ahead of the tuner deployment, we encountered server deployment issues while doing final preparations for tonight's update. We are hoping to have it resolved tomorrow and live on Friday at 2 AM and will update on its status tomorrow.

We apologize for the delay and any inconvenience this may have caused
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Once the tuner is live, a Gameplay Tuner update will be downloaded that will revert the tuner update changes for online modes.

HOW TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK
On Friday, January 18th at 2 PM PT, we will be releasing the Beta Tuner Feedback Survey. You will be able to find a link to it in-game, on our Twitter, and in this thread when it goes live. The survey will be available until Thursday, January 24th at 02:00 PM PT.

As a reminder, you are only able to complete the survey once. Please be sure you've played an adequate number of games until you submit your feedback, as you will not be able to resubmit or change your answers after you have submitted it.

Additionally, in the Beta Tuner survey, we will also be providing an additional field to leave any additional comments regarding the Beta Tuner. You can also leave your feedback in this thread, or on social media by tweeting at myself (@TheFlopFish) or the EA SPORTS NHL account (@EASPORTSNHL).

LINK TO FEEDBACK SURVEY: https://x.ea.com/nhl19/rollback-feedback-tw

FAQ

Q: What will have changed with the tuner rollback for online modes?
A: All changes in the NHL 19 Tuner Notes Master List will be reverted in all online modes.


Q: How can I rollback to the Beta Tuner for Offline Modes?
A: For offline modes, you can rollback to the Beta tuner by doing the following steps:
  1. From the home menu, scroll down to All Modes
  2. Go to "Settings"
  3. Go to "Gameplay Sliders"
  4. Under General, go to "Gameplay Version" and switch it to v1.00
NOTE: Offline users will revert back to the September 1st Tuner update.


Q: Why do offline users have to manually change it?
A: We wanted to provide ability to allow offline users to continue using their preferred tuner in offline modes. This also provides with the opportunity to change back and play on the current tuner in offline modes to compare and contrast if you desire.


Q: Why are you doing this?
A: Find out why here

Q: What will happen after the Beta Tuner rollback is over?
A: Once the Beta Tuner rollback is over, the gameplay tuner will revert to the same one before the rollback (v1.3)

Q: When will you action on the feedback?
A: After the Beta tuner is over, we will be utilizing the feedback we received from the original Beta survey, the current gameplay survey, and the Beta Tuner Rollback survey. From there, we will utilize your feedback to help guide the next NHL 19 tuner update.
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  • Nxckles
    92 posts Member
    edited January 2019
    Just to be clear, none of the changes made in patches are being rolled back, correct? @Ty_Hors @NHLDev
  • Already the cheesers are crying and whining about the goalie's being OP
  • Can't wait, will be playing a lot until 1.0 is removed again. My only hope is that you guys find a good tuning so those of us who want less cheese and ragging can keep playing permanently and enjoy the game. :D
  • Just tells me how lost the dev team is for the future of the series.
    None of this instills confidence. They really need to burn this down, take a few yrs off an revamp the franchise, but this is EA so that won't happen.
  • LeFury_27 wrote: »
    Can't wait, will be playing a lot until 1.0 is removed again. My only hope is that you guys find a good tuning so those of us who want less cheese and ragging can keep playing permanently and enjoy the game. :D

    I second your thought sir
  • KidShowtime1867
    1379 posts Member
    edited January 2019
    I sincerely hope that some changes are found that should be made permanent.

    Whatever comes, all I wish for is balance for everyone.
  • would be nice if server space was allocated for this change....eashl connection has been brutal recently, even worse than normal
  • Nuckles37 wrote: »
    Just to be clear, none of the changes made in patches are being rolled back, correct? @Ty_Hors @NHLDev [/

    That is what I want to know 2
    @NHLDev
  • drod1126
    50 posts Member
    edited January 2019
    Just tells me how lost the dev team is for the future of the series.
    None of this instills confidence. They really need to burn this down, take a few yrs off an revamp the franchise, but this is EA so that won't happen.

    Couldn't disagree more. It sounds like you want to complain just to complain. The developers alter gameplay all the time. Literally. Getting more feedback and trying to find the best solution seems like a good thing to me. Even if it's in vain, and nothing changes, they still took a step in the right direction by acquiring direct information from the playing public.
  • So excited for this!!! A week of video game hockey that will represent its real life counter part.... way more than our current tuner!!
    Time to start slanging that puck around more boys!!
    I’m gonna cause like 20 gazillion turnovers on these puck hog raggers!!! :)
    The Christmas kids are in for a rude awakening! Wooooooo!
  • drod1126 wrote: »
    Just tells me how lost the dev team is for the future of the series.
    None of this instills confidence. They really need to burn this down, take a few yrs off an revamp the franchise, but this is EA so that won't happen.

    Couldn't disagree more. It sounds like you want to complain just to complain. The developers alter gameplay all the time. Literally. Getting more feedback and trying to find the best solution seems like a good thing to me. Even if it's in vain, and nothing changes, they still took a step in the right direction by acquiring direct information from the playing public.

    Dude stop. This game has gotten worse and worse, month after month. Typical EA for dropping the ball/puck on this too.
  • drod1126 wrote: »
    Just tells me how lost the dev team is for the future of the series.
    None of this instills confidence. They really need to burn this down, take a few yrs off an revamp the franchise, but this is EA so that won't happen.

    Couldn't disagree more. It sounds like you want to complain just to complain. The developers alter gameplay all the time. Literally. Getting more feedback and trying to find the best solution seems like a good thing to me. Even if it's in vain, and nothing changes, they still took a step in the right direction by acquiring direct information from the playing public.

    Dude stop. This game has gotten worse and worse, month after month. Typical EA for dropping the ball/puck on this too.

    It's not typical ea though because in the past they would mess it up and move on. They are usually done with the current NHL game in December and moving on to next years game because that's how the 1 year cycle works.

    While I think a compromise tuner between beta and now would have been the easier route and is still the final destination at least give them credit for caring and working longer until it's done and you can judge the outcome based on its merit.
  • So excited for this!!! A week of video game hockey that will represent its real life counter part.... way more than our current tuner!!
    Time to start slanging that puck around more boys!!
    I’m gonna cause like 20 gazillion turnovers on these puck hog raggers!!! :)
    The Christmas kids are in for a rude awakening! Wooooooo!

    It’s going to be so..satisfying.
    All Comments pertain to 6v6 drop in unless otherwise stated..
  • YASSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
  • I don't believe the 1.00 tuner will eliminate the current meta. You're going to see more trips and and a more dangerous DSS (I believe the removal of tripping on the release of DSS will now be reverted) resulting in a slew of penalties that will initially come as a breath of fresh air to the beta crowd.

    However, once it's realized that the changes to skating were minimal (and we are giving up many quality of life improvements on defense to realize this) and the skilled players adapt to the reversion - the meta will return and you'll see the same complaints.
  • TheMajjam
    794 posts Member
    edited January 2019
    I don't believe the 1.00 tuner will eliminate the current meta. You're going to see more trips and and a more dangerous DSS (I believe the removal of tripping on the release of DSS will now be reverted) resulting in a slew of penalties that will initially come as a breath of fresh air to the beta crowd.

    However, once it's realized that the changes to skating were minimal (and we are giving up many quality of life improvements on defense to realize this) and the skilled players adapt to the reversion - the meta will return and you'll see the same complaints.

    Yup. You'll see more trips, but as I was told by the crowd that loved the tripping even from the beginning...

    People will adapt. Just adapt. Stop spamming poke. Use incidental contact. Stick lift. :)
  • To me stick lift and protect the puck should be the go to when making plays to acquire the puck. Poke and DSS are disrupters. It should be more likely to trip with the disrupters, than slash while fighting for the puck(of course within reason ie position, velocity etc (for both).
    All Comments pertain to 6v6 drop in unless otherwise stated..
  • langowski39
    71 posts Member
    edited January 2019
    To me stick lift and protect the puck should be the go to when making plays to acquire the puck. Poke and DSS are disrupters. It should be more likely to trip with the disrupters, than slash while fighting for the puck(of course within reason ie position, velocity etc (for both).

    Thats one of my biggest complaints this year that I haven't mentioned yet. In previous years stick lift worked so well that I was able to win races for the puck by stick lifting right before we got to it. This year stick lift seems so hit or miss that it will connect or if it does connect seems like there's to great of a chance for a penalty
    If you see Grammar or Spelling errors. I am starting to experience the long term effects of ten plus concussions.
  • I don't believe the 1.00 tuner will eliminate the current meta. You're going to see more trips and and a more dangerous DSS (I believe the removal of tripping on the release of DSS will now be reverted) resulting in a slew of penalties that will initially come as a breath of fresh air to the beta crowd.

    However, once it's realized that the changes to skating were minimal (and we are giving up many quality of life improvements on defense to realize this) and the skilled players adapt to the reversion - the meta will return and you'll see the same complaints.

    The current meta does not revolve around poor poke checking/poke checking mechanics. The biggest issue most have with this game is the re-introduction of the hitting bubble which plays a huge determining factor in puck ragging. The other issue would be the inept ability of goaltenders to stop the SS "snipe" anywhere from the bottom of the circle to just inside the blue line in some cases and the backhand to forehand move that works 95% of the time with correct timing.

    Personally, I didnt even have a problem with the poke checking when the game was in beta - I used it in situations where the likelihood of a penalty was slim and in areas where I thought there was a chance for a penalty I was able to use physicality to my advantage. With the game in it's current state, physicality is non existent in areas when it should work as intended and with the inconsistency of poke at times it often leaves the D man no choice but incidental contact and body position (which is also hard as the puck carrier often has more agility than the D man without the puck).

    This will be the greatest week in gaming that I've had in months, to actually be able to play hockey again. AHHHH what a feeling :D
  • I don't believe the 1.00 tuner will eliminate the current meta. You're going to see more trips and and a more dangerous DSS (I believe the removal of tripping on the release of DSS will now be reverted) resulting in a slew of penalties that will initially come as a breath of fresh air to the beta crowd.

    However, once it's realized that the changes to skating were minimal (and we are giving up many quality of life improvements on defense to realize this) and the skilled players adapt to the reversion - the meta will return and you'll see the same complaints.

    The current meta does not revolve around poor poke checking/poke checking mechanics. The biggest issue most have with this game is the re-introduction of the hitting bubble which plays a huge determining factor in puck ragging. The other issue would be the inept ability of goaltenders to stop the SS "snipe" anywhere from the bottom of the circle to just inside the blue line in some cases and the backhand to forehand move that works 95% of the time with correct timing.

    Personally, I didnt even have a problem with the poke checking when the game was in beta - I used it in situations where the likelihood of a penalty was slim and in areas where I thought there was a chance for a penalty I was able to use physicality to my advantage. With the game in it's current state, physicality is non existent in areas when it should work as intended and with the inconsistency of poke at times it often leaves the D man no choice but incidental contact and body position (which is also hard as the puck carrier often has more agility than the D man without the puck).

    This will be the greatest week in gaming that I've had in months, to actually be able to play hockey again. AHHHH what a feeling :D

    Couldn't agree more. Awesome news.
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