Finally finished with NHL 19 { I know nobody cares, but just need to vent lol }
After all these years, since way back in 91 when I bought my first hockey game, I have finally finished with it. Uninstalled this morning after yet another defeat...the game has its share of issues, puck pick ups, player switching, passes going hell knows where and AI that seem to defy logic at times but the biggest issue for me, nobody wants to try and simulate the game of hockey, its all about competitive mode.
Versus mode is full of folks that just want to win, by any means...sad reflection of today's society that makes the game zero fun to play
Hut..never had an interest about that, not wanting to pay to play
EASHL...was fun but sadly, with none of my team mates still playing, its a no go....hate the drop in modes with that sad clothing and poor gameplay...and threes is just terrible to play.
maybe next year if there is any improvement, I'll be back...but at 53 years old, maybe not lol
Versus mode is full of folks that just want to win, by any means...sad reflection of today's society that makes the game zero fun to play
Hut..never had an interest about that, not wanting to pay to play
EASHL...was fun but sadly, with none of my team mates still playing, its a no go....hate the drop in modes with that sad clothing and poor gameplay...and threes is just terrible to play.
maybe next year if there is any improvement, I'll be back...but at 53 years old, maybe not lol
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53 lol I thought I was the only one , but seriously yes your right the game has a lot of issues lately for me the passing has me scratching head at times and the checking is wacky hopefully they look at these issues and a few others and try fixing them
Nope, I don't think you get it.
He is not saying he can't do that, he is saying that it's not fun.
Or at least that's how I understand it and how I feel about this game.
Something needs to change.
No logic , finally we got some pass logic last year, until that when the AI passed they didn't know there was a net, boards , other players in the path, nothing ...
Still stuck to silly animations... I mean goalies have saves , then animate in such a way that it actually goes in , yet all the goalie had to do was stand there and do nothing.
Puck pick ups is still bad ...
Puck intercepts are still auto ... It's so bizzare i have to stand there and hope the game mechanics work for me... Last night I covers a dude in an lg game, buddy forces it , hits my skate, goalies don't save pucks that bounce off their teammates ( STILL) and it goes in ... All my dude had to do was put his stick on the ice and I could've played it ...
Game controls still take precedence over user error... If you want to make a defensive move but your player wants to make some silly grab for the puck that you know won't work, you can't , you're stuck in animation then you get beat ... I've lost games this way , it's super frustrating...
Pucks warp to goalies gloves... I implore everyone to watch out for this, I've been noticing alot that snipes I have should be going in , but it will literally stop move down a couple feet and warp into the goalies glove ( I have recording of course ) .
When you go for a hit and press up on the skill stick then pick up the puck right after your hit, he still shoots it, the game still double taps that ...
Pokes don't work with momentum, still ...
I can go on forever how this game is still behind and doesn't accept a skill gap ... I laugh so hard at the eSports competitions and anyone who thinks NHL deserves to be mentioned , it isn't eSports ready, it doesn't embrave a skill gap and allow the better player to win , especially when our teammates the AI are so bad and have no logic ....
On that note, the AI still don't cover their man ... In eashl 3's they are the worst, they get in the way consistently, alot of the times they dictate the play, on defense they are pushing forwards out the way to play offense, taking over the game ... They should sit back cover the other AI ( in 2's ) and let the players play .... I have sooooo many recording of the AI screwing up games . And btw whoever decided that the AI should be permanently set on aggressive should be fired and never hired again , terrible terrible decision really proves my point though that ea doesn't embrace skill gaps or even have a clue how the AI need to be playing ...
Again you can have the best game of your life be square, challenge every shot right , yet the animations fail you and you let 10 goals in, just the same you can be on the opposite post sliding away from goals , leaving short side open and all the pucks stop on your red line , you make miraculous glove saves that warp into your glove... Goalies should at least have an indicator that they have to use their right skill stick to line up with the shot on screen, the better you do this , the better chance you have at making the save, and if you feel the snipe coming on, you can anticipate and hold your skill stick out so when the shot comes, boom legitimate glove save ...
Also how is it hits are so effective in eashl , yet in hut my 93 Christmas Doughty is charging full speed at cards like base William Nylander and bouncing off him ... It's bizzare ...
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The game definately rewards dexterity and hand-eye, as all games do, but moreso it rewards anticipation and knowledge. That's why some teams can hang with the best teams in the game for a period and get blown out by the 3rd. You definately have the ability to learn tendancies and exploit them. I'm not fancy with the puck, I don't have that skill (I'm an older player too), but I stay patient and work the problem all game long and I feel like it helps me stay competitive for the most part. The best "thumbs guy" I play with is not among the best players I play with, the best guys are unbelievable in all 3 zones with and without the puck. On the breakout if I get cornered I know I can throw the puck to a spot and my center is going to get there because he sees me getting into trouble before anyone else. If you ask any legit 6s team they'll tell you they win more then they lose because they've developed a chemistry, on the other side of the coin I've played with thumbs guys who consider themselves L33t and end up blowing up their club every time they reach d1 because they can't handle getting smashed and they're prepetually looking for other L33t players to build some kind of dream team that'll never happen.
this past summer i tried to relive the old days of going to Kmart on release day to buy the game and skipping school/work to play it all day. i bought the Ulimate Edition of 19 on pre-order to get all the goodies and was really disapointed how much the game play changed from 18 but it did get me to remember that, as Neo learned, "there is no spoon". video games have always been about playing the game and not the sport. from the JR wrap around in NHL94 to running Bo into your own endzone to go 108yds for a TD in Tecmo. nothing that anyone ever did in real life then either. today's cheats are a lot more sophisticated and though i can recognize them and see others use them, my 15 year gap in controller evolution has me way behind and severely disadvantaged.
the AI is lightyears beyond what it was and i noticed that if you play the player you are controlling as if it were real life the AI does what you ask it to in Strategies. it really didn't matter where you skated in Blades of Steel but today if you are controlling a Dman in your own zone and skate him to the blueline a FWD drops down to cover. if you then switch which player you are controlling you've now created 3 players out of position and now you're chasing in your zone and that will always be bad, in the game and real life sport.
i do think that you can think the sport when playing the videogame today but it is still a game and should reward those with the "best thumbs" and hand-eye and not the fastest or biggest or smartest on ice.
i have quit playing any online mode and not sure i buy NHL20 but that's from the lack of goods from the goodies and EA's sterotypical lack of customer service. the recent updates and new servers have really screwed up my game (i really think it's broken now) but EA said it's outside the return window and with the universal lack of consumer protections we deal with in the US i'm done trying to get any restitution from EA.
if the offline/CPU modes don't work themselves out in a future update i'll be done with those too. whatever they did with that Tuner switch a few weeks ago ruined everything. however when it freezes in an offline mode it picks up where it leaves off and doesn't speed up like when online but why it freezes/pauses at all offline is beyond me.....
Contrary to popular belief, I don't think it's a waste of time to come here and explain why you no longer want to play the game so long as it's done with constructive criticism.
You are totally right about those 1 vs 1 modes. The win-at-all-cost mentality is what makes me stay away from them. EASHL is the only way I play this game and it has to be 6 vs 6. I hate AI and want no part of it.
I guess I did get it after all.
Man an old timers division would be awesome.
EASDHL league? EA Sports Depends Hockey League
I should reinstall and play against you guys, help me out and make sure I'm doing the right thing and playing the proper way
I don't know, like I know the team is small; they're regular people who probably work hard, but I just never see the effort translated in these "finished" products. I always begin with the menu responsiveness and speed too, because that's where we all start, how we get to the actual modes. These guys aren't even putting together modern, efficient, 2018-19 video game menus like a, say, MLB The Show from Sony Interactive. Lightning fast and responsive. Even sim speed for 160-game baseball season is lightning fast. EA can't seem to do that either for 82 games.
And we're kind of creeping into next gen now...with this game, in my opinion, never even reaching the capabilities and efficiency of current gen.
I can only shake my head most of the time. They won't even follow-up on a release feature like Legends in Franchise mode.
NHL is just treading water with this—seemingly—complacent team.
I been harassing EA forever to do this ... This is a hockey sim ... Above and beyond that , this isn't supposed to be Mario Kart where there is catch up logics so your friends that don't play can compete and have fun , in competitive seasons it should be hardcore / simulation , as it is in real life .
In mid Jan I was convinced to try eashl 3's since there were less AI and less randoms. We are actually having fun with it and not most nights we have 4-5 of us wanting to play which means someone is left out for the night. Once I got passed the point that 3s is not really hockey just a video game it became fun. I wish they removed the penalty shots but that might just be me.
I hope you find the love for the game again as we did. The game is best at a full 6 humans per side but that is tough to find these days. At least on ps4 we struggle. Matching room size takes forever and is a waste of time and us old farts are not good enough to exploit the AI all the time so partial games become AI in beast mode.
@602RAFPuff Have you tried eashl/drop-in 3s?