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Does stats matter? or not? I changed my mind today...
So here is the short story (thank god it's the short version, I know)
I won Div 1... need to go back to Div 2... so I can continue my progression challenges.. You know the drill... So I built up a team of "unused cards" so I could lose in peace without using my precious contracts for my A team.
Now I noticed that since my team OVR dropped, I faced way less powerful oponents in each game compared to my games with my A team (97 OVR) to Win Div 1
Played 7 games in Div1, 4W 2L 1 OTL (one loss where I tied 4-4 with 30 sec left but pulled the goalie to let the opponent score and win, i did not want the 2 points and leave D1).
I could have win 6 games, i was in the game all 7 matches. With low overall gold, silver players and even bronze players against 90+ legends most of the time. The last game was insane, again wanted to quit but hey, just for fun right? Let's just play 5 min... lol
I won 4-0 after he DCed after the second period. And I'm not a top player, I'm 404-193-26.
So what? I noticed a difference, like a tilt in every game I played towards me.
Check the team I had first and then go to the video : https://hutdb.net/19/builder/1361996
Yea talent > 90+ cards. OK. But that's not what I experienced. I had some kind of compensation somehow because my bronze card on the 3rd goal felt like Joe Sakic 94 there.
So in my honest opinion:
Two equally skilled players = stats matter.
Low OVR team, you get a boost somehow to give you a chance to compete.
But when a decent player (like me) has this edge... against less skilled and experienced players... not sure it's fair, regardless of the team.
Thoughts? Opinions? Insults?
I won Div 1... need to go back to Div 2... so I can continue my progression challenges.. You know the drill... So I built up a team of "unused cards" so I could lose in peace without using my precious contracts for my A team.
Now I noticed that since my team OVR dropped, I faced way less powerful oponents in each game compared to my games with my A team (97 OVR) to Win Div 1
Played 7 games in Div1, 4W 2L 1 OTL (one loss where I tied 4-4 with 30 sec left but pulled the goalie to let the opponent score and win, i did not want the 2 points and leave D1).
I could have win 6 games, i was in the game all 7 matches. With low overall gold, silver players and even bronze players against 90+ legends most of the time. The last game was insane, again wanted to quit but hey, just for fun right? Let's just play 5 min... lol
I won 4-0 after he DCed after the second period. And I'm not a top player, I'm 404-193-26.
So what? I noticed a difference, like a tilt in every game I played towards me.
Check the team I had first and then go to the video : https://hutdb.net/19/builder/1361996
Yea talent > 90+ cards. OK. But that's not what I experienced. I had some kind of compensation somehow because my bronze card on the 3rd goal felt like Joe Sakic 94 there.
So in my honest opinion:
Two equally skilled players = stats matter.
Low OVR team, you get a boost somehow to give you a chance to compete.
But when a decent player (like me) has this edge... against less skilled and experienced players... not sure it's fair, regardless of the team.
Thoughts? Opinions? Insults?
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Wait until you cross the red line before you pass it... Exploit City.
Cause if these are like exploiting the game I guess good timing and control should not be allowed
People need to re-think the term glitch. A glitch by definition is something thats not supposed to happen. If everyone is doing the same thing over and over again, guess what it's supposed to happen thus not a glitch.
Now. In the next game I faced a player with some free legends and a lot of base gold players. He was better, but I had a clear advantage with better players.
So I would definitely say that ratings matters. That said I would probably get my a.. beaten pretty bad by a really good player with all basics card anyway. But thats another thing.
I watched your goals. The first one was a flukey "EA goal". The other three your opponent defended the cross-crease terribly. He could have had an all 99 OVR team and you could have had an all bronze team and you still would have scored those goals. Bad players get beat by good players.
I didn't see any "glitches" there, BTW.
there is no boost.
the player on the controller is always the most important factor. me using a card with 99 shooting won't matter if i don't know how to aim the shot. 2 skilled players (as it sounds like you are) are going to be able to give each other a good game regardless of which cards they use. if you play an equally skilled opponent with an all bronze vs their all 99 it would be a good game. the 99 might be a betting favorite because their AI would be bigger, stronger and faster but the game play would be comparable. you'd be able to hold and protect the puck, skate and deek into the zone make a move to get the goalie out of position and score like you can with any card. i'd even guess that you'd appear to have more control or it is easier because the player card you're controlling is a tad slower and your movements more deliberate.
there are stats on the card that deal with awareness, poise and discipline. my guess would be that these are used for those 'clitch' goals where a card with low stats will lose focus and do something crazy where it looks like they are just standing around. a FWD with low D awarenes won't be very good at covering the point if the D pinches he's on an island and gives up the breakaway. i'm not very good but when i play someone that has FWDs on the blueline i can usually get a few breakaway chances, i just can't convert them very often.
another complaint about 'glich' goals or 'short-side-cheese' and the like ignores the vision and poise for the goalie. they have endurance and durability too so if you get "the most dangerous lead in hockey" and you already are playing with a goalie with 80 something position and agility they're giving up a cheapy (looking at you CuJo).
most of what i hear about are the speed stats and how a player with 99 speed gets caught or is passed. in that case i think the endurance, balance and acceleration are at work. how long was the 99 on the ice, what position were they skating from and so on. how your strategies are set is also in play here. there is the one that is how hard your players work on the ice and mine are all 10s. my 99s are great at the start of a period but if i can't get them off in 20 or 30 seconds they won't catch anyone on the backcheck or be able to carry in to the zone.
not sure what order of magnitude they use but i'd hope that a 90 is 10x better than 80 at least. anyone know what the magnifier is?
World championship has a lot more players playing the same thing at the same time in the same region. This makes their matchmaking a whole lot better and gives a way better connection and for the most part the game plays how it should. See how that team does once your at 10+ wins
I wasn’t going to play then noticed the format was actually hosted by ea. What a joke last year was.
I hope they learn from this format and get some positive feedback. Maybe a month long cs same style all year. I’ve never had such a consistent connection and game feel since next gen came out. It’s actually fun again
The fact that they do, and are able to exceed the performance of legend players is absolute proof of handicapping.
I'm so sick of reading excuses. Because that's all they are. Greater skill is one thing, but seeing the computer a.i. compensate
In favor of teams comprised of lower rated cards has been going on for many years now.
There you go, well said
But you're right of course, skill has nothing to do with it. They have hacked the game or used their Matrix vision to see the 0's and 1's so they can always have the best advantage on the virtual ice and just occasionally throw a game so we don't get suspicious.