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it's hard to come up with new things but is it possible for EA to catch up with 2k?

I read the review on nba2k21 and I'm not surprised that even the 2k icon snaps into place. But that's why EA now has the greatest opportunity to catch up on the best sports game on the nba2k market.

Is it really so hard to add a few introductory animations for each hockey team so that the introduction doesn't repeat EA ???

Is it really so hard to make an intuitive and simplified menu that directly guides you to play without further unnecessary pressing of EA buttons ???

Is it really that hard to make animations in real time without an EA cut scene ???

Is it really so hard to make a scoreboard and statistics in the game so that it looks like on TV ???

Is it really so hard to make nice cuts of repeated shots of the game to match the atmosphere ???

2k has the same old gene as EA. Why do animations from 2k look smoother and more random ???

Why does EA hockey look like it's made by a man who may have ever held a stick in his hand, and why does 2k look like he's made by that basketball expert ???


Both games have their bugs and both games have stopped innovating.
Unfortunately, the gap in the presentation of the NHL and NBA in video games is absolutely incredibly deep.

EA and 2k use microtransactions that no player likes. It is clear that there is no point in inventing anything else.

But for EA, that means at least having to do a dignified hockey show. Now is the best way to show that EA has the same enthusiasm for hockey as 2k for basketball!

So let's show EA a finally competitive show so that hockey players don't have to be a basketball player!

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  • Oslik1000 wrote: »
    I read the review on nba2k21 and I'm not surprised that even the 2k icon snaps into place. But that's why EA now has the greatest opportunity to catch up on the best sports game on the nba2k market.

    Is it really so hard to add a few introductory animations for each hockey team so that the introduction doesn't repeat EA ???

    Is it really so hard to make an intuitive and simplified menu that directly guides you to play without further unnecessary pressing of EA buttons ???

    Is it really that hard to make animations in real time without an EA cut scene ???

    Is it really so hard to make a scoreboard and statistics in the game so that it looks like on TV ???

    Is it really so hard to make nice cuts of repeated shots of the game to match the atmosphere ???

    2k has the same old gene as EA. Why do animations from 2k look smoother and more random ???

    Why does EA hockey look like it's made by a man who may have ever held a stick in his hand, and why does 2k look like he's made by that basketball expert ???


    Both games have their bugs and both games have stopped innovating.
    Unfortunately, the gap in the presentation of the NHL and NBA in video games is absolutely incredibly deep.

    EA and 2k use microtransactions that no player likes. It is clear that there is no point in inventing anything else.

    But for EA, that means at least having to do a dignified hockey show. Now is the best way to show that EA has the same enthusiasm for hockey as 2k for basketball!

    So let's show EA a finally competitive show so that hockey players don't have to be a basketball player!

    We, and everyone else, knows that this stuff is not nearly as important as HUT income and dangle, snipe, celly. This is not on the Dev team either. Given Ben, carefully, disclosing info on how he makes sim sliders in his own time, it should indicate to all of us they are handcuffed by the suits. It is a shame, really.
  • Woah woah woah, are you guys not buying into the new “Tony Hawk’s Pro Hockey Skater” HUT game mode? Talk about innovative! If there was anything mode-related that we needed in this game, it was definitely another arcade mode with glued-on puck possession where “SICKKK DANGZ” and awful goaltending are the name of the game.
  • Woah woah woah, are you guys not buying into the new “Tony Hawk’s Pro Hockey Skater” HUT game mode? Talk about innovative! If there was anything mode-related that we needed in this game, it was definitely another arcade mode with glued-on puck possession where “SICKKK DANGZ” and awful goaltending are the name of the game.

    Hehe yeah I pass on that.. If something good comes out of it.. Maybe the worst L2-danglers will stick to that mode and leave us rest alone.

    And someone mention the 'skate-rating' was low on the HUT cards.. That could be something.

    I come to think about RL today, I was wondering if it never would go free-to-play, so I looked it up, today 23sep it goes free(!), must be a sign! 😏
  • Sega82mega wrote: »
    Woah woah woah, are you guys not buying into the new “Tony Hawk’s Pro Hockey Skater” HUT game mode? Talk about innovative! If there was anything mode-related that we needed in this game, it was definitely another arcade mode with glued-on puck possession where “SICKKK DANGZ” and awful goaltending are the name of the game.

    Hehe yeah I pass on that.. If something good comes out of it.. Maybe the worst L2-danglers will stick to that mode and leave us rest alone.

    And someone mention the 'skate-rating' was low on the HUT cards.. That could be something.

    I come to think about RL today, I was wondering if it never would go free-to-play, so I looked it up, today 23sep it goes free(!), must be a sign! 😏

    Rocket League’s latest update is awesome man! The public tournaments are such a cool feature! No more grinding “competitive” ranked modes for no reason! Played my first one last night and went to the championship of a 32 team tournament. Lost in game 3 (best of 3 series) in OT! Really fun experience!
  • Sega82mega wrote: »
    Woah woah woah, are you guys not buying into the new “Tony Hawk’s Pro Hockey Skater” HUT game mode? Talk about innovative! If there was anything mode-related that we needed in this game, it was definitely another arcade mode with glued-on puck possession where “SICKKK DANGZ” and awful goaltending are the name of the game.

    Hehe yeah I pass on that.. If something good comes out of it.. Maybe the worst L2-danglers will stick to that mode and leave us rest alone.

    And someone mention the 'skate-rating' was low on the HUT cards.. That could be something.

    I come to think about RL today, I was wondering if it never would go free-to-play, so I looked it up, today 23sep it goes free(!), must be a sign! 😏

    Rocket League’s latest update is awesome man! The public tournaments are such a cool feature! No more grinding “competitive” ranked modes for no reason! Played my first one last night and went to the championship of a 32 team tournament. Lost in game 3 (best of 3 series) in OT! Really fun experience!

    Hehe good boy, I read that with a smile on my face. Looking forward to be one of thoose crazy cars in the near future! 😏👌
  • 2k hockey is not the first to have almost everything: the first was definitely wayne gretzky hockey 3.

    is it really so hard to add an animation of how a zamboni ice cleaner goes and cleans the ice surface ???
    Anyone who has ever been to a stadium knows that without this machine it is not possible to play in the NHL. It's part of the NHL so why does EA ignore it ???

    it is really so difficult to defend the player so that the player who is defended cannot shoot the puck. it was borne for thirty years ago !!!! Why can't you do EA ???

    it's really so hard to show the puck so that it doesn't bounce a few times in the corner, but it just naturally describes the mantinel arc like in wgh3 ???

    And is it really so hard to do a scoreboard that I can place where I want EA ???
    And can I even divide it into several parts ??? Is it really so hard to program 30 years old things ???

    Please watch this video and think if anyone really needs next-gen ???? no one








  • We had such fun tournaments with my pals playing Wayne Gretzky Hockey! B)

  • The Zamboni thing in 2k was ridiculous but oddly satisfying. I’d take something like that over skimasks and flatbrims any day if we’re needing to add gimmicks.
  • Oslik1000 wrote: »








    Hehe, The music in the beginning sounds like something taking from the movie Beverly Hills Cop.

    And alot of 'heads-up' on the ice, but the logo in the center looks kinda fresh.

    I think we could say, we have come a long way...

    But thanks for the video!
  • Oslik1000
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    edited September 24
    Sega82mega wrote: »
    Oslik1000 wrote: »








    Hehe, The music in the beginning sounds like something taking from the movie Beverly Hills Cop.

    And alot of 'heads-up' on the ice, but the logo in the center looks kinda fresh.

    I think we could say, we have come a long way...

    But thanks for the video!

    you are welcome

    it is so hard understand why EA kill own idea.
    the zamboni ice cleaner was the best at nhl96
    Yes it is EA hockey! Yes the frozen graphics looks so cool.
    the coolest graphics is the circle logo with 96 number! it is so magic so nice!

    it is really so hard do any remake of this superb work any videogame made did??? yes this game is worth it for buy!

    if I am using a new metacritic metric method:
    nhl96 8/10
    nhl18,19,20 2/10
    sorry EA it is reality. your offline game modes looks so awful stereotype with the odd graphics elements. we need some fresh new moments each year for buying a "new game". use different designers make a great game the same as titanfall look as mega place for mech = tech war of the future. yes it is absolutely right perspective.

    here we talk about hockey. EA please use the same logic for your sports games. hockey without zamboni is not hockey. hockey without create play is not hockey. hockey without full contact of the players is not hockey. hockey without 5 man celebrates realtime is not hockey videogame look as real...

    do you remember how many cut scenes feature nhl95, 96???

    nhl 97 it was beginning of the first fall, cut scenes! who need this ??? so many cries about the bad movement. there is no improve against nhl96! one important improve was cut scenes how refferee grab the puck near the goalie!!! who did want this???? nhl98,99 the same. nhl2000 it was fist light in doom!
    2001 2002 2003 still more shine do increase! 2004 was the best nhl hockey on PC.

    how many materials, graphics ideas, hockey elements you can do use under your license. if you will do use anything it can be good because no hockey element look as remake!
    your hockey games had everything but no at one title together.

    why? why ? why nba2k use the same hot&cold icon above players still at nba2k21???????? it was from EA!!!!

    why EA team is not using EA elements ???


    nhl96 review
    "A zamboni will even appear during the intermissions to clean the ice rendering it all nice and smooth again for the players. Other animations you may see are frustrated players storming into the penalty box, bench checks sending the recipient over the boards, and missed slap shots hard enough to break the glass"
    ....yes the break the glass was the same mistake as lacross goal. it was annoying because it was every match for show....

    at nhl20 we cad do see the same frustrated players storming into the penalty box???? bench checks sending the recipient over the board (nhl95 was born)???? yes.

    but why zamboni is not at EA hockey game from nhl96 if you can make the absolutely the same animation!!!! it is realy so hard to make this?????

    https://www.old-games.com/download/8001/nhl-96







  • 2k’s gimmicks involved adding depth to the overall hockey experience (driving the Zamboni) EA’s gimmicks involve putting props that are never used into the rafters that wind up blocking your vision, mouth guards hanging out, and plad-patterned skates.

    One company values (or at least used to) the little things about the sport, one values money and fortnite cosmetics.
  • 2k’s gimmicks involved adding depth to the overall hockey experience (driving the Zamboni) EA’s gimmicks involve putting props that are never used into the rafters that wind up blocking your vision, mouth guards hanging out, and plad-patterned skates.

    One company values (or at least used to) the little things about the sport, one values money and fortnite cosmetics.

    :)
    I remember how I wrote to the 2k team very often and they asked me what I wanted most in the game: and I say zamboni and also the window as the player jumps from the penalty bench to the ice. this window and zamboni were invented by EA first (ie the second after wgh3). and they gave it to 2k11 !!!!!! it was incredible about 2 months before the release of the game it just added there !!! So it is clear that no game development exists !!! It's just fooling the player into thinking they're buying a new game. The game nhl21 is the same as nhl15 and already in 2015 EA knew what nhl21 would look like. And now you know what nhl22 will look like. It's a decade plan. I know I have verified it from several sources.
  • Oslik1000 wrote: »
    2k’s gimmicks involved adding depth to the overall hockey experience (driving the Zamboni) EA’s gimmicks involve putting props that are never used into the rafters that wind up blocking your vision, mouth guards hanging out, and plad-patterned skates.

    One company values (or at least used to) the little things about the sport, one values money and fortnite cosmetics.

    :)
    I remember how I wrote to the 2k team very often and they asked me what I wanted most in the game: and I say zamboni and also the window as the player jumps from the penalty bench to the ice. this window and zamboni were invented by EA first (ie the second after wgh3). and they gave it to 2k11 !!!!!! it was incredible about 2 months before the release of the game it just added there !!! So it is clear that no game development exists !!! It's just fooling the player into thinking they're buying a new game. The game nhl21 is the same as nhl15 and already in 2015 EA knew what nhl21 would look like. And now you know what nhl22 will look like. It's a decade plan. I know I have verified it from several sources.

    sorry it was 2k10 with Ovi on cover !!!!!!

    Although 2k could never make proportional correct jerseys on the players. But every year we saw literally works of art. Perfectly clear and especially fast menu with a beautiful background. Several levels and play with details. Yes, it's a zamboni race. I don't know why it's a zamboni race when nobody wanted it .... Why should I ride a snowmobile every third ??? Well, unfortunately, 2k really exaggerated it and it didn't go automatically, unfortunately ..... But zamboni looked great and proportionally absolutely right and photorealistic! And just in 2k10 you can notice the zoom of the windows that used the EA drive. yes yes these are the details that unfortunately EA hockey lacks so much. But it can be seen that both HUT and CHEL still have more space from EA and also a better presentation, which the classic NHL and classic offline game modes can only dream of !!!
  • at 18:40 time you can see how zamboni clear the ice. it is so realistic! the camera angle is too much zoomed but fine.



    if imagine this in nhl2007 az nhl21 az nhl x next gen ..... why couldn't it be there ???? The only explanation is that they don't like zamboni at EA ... And it is very likely that the director of EA sports did this work before joining EA and he has bad memories of the work !!! Otherwise, I can't explain why this one isn't part of every EA hockey from 1996 ??????
  • Oslik1000 wrote: »
    at 18:40 time you can see how zamboni clear the ice. it is so realistic! the camera angle is too much zoomed but fine.



    if imagine this in nhl2007 az nhl21 az nhl x next gen ..... why couldn't it be there ???? The only explanation is that they don't like zamboni at EA ... And it is very likely that the director of EA sports did this work before joining EA and he has bad memories of the work !!! Otherwise, I can't explain why this one isn't part of every EA hockey from 1996 ??????

    Well, its part of hockey but until they can actually get the "hockey" part of a hockey game right, nothing else matters.
  • Oslik1000 wrote: »
    at 18:40 time you can see how zamboni clear the ice. it is so realistic! the camera angle is too much zoomed but fine.



    if imagine this in nhl2007 to nhl21 to nhl x next gen ..... why couldn't it be there ???? The only explanation is that they don't like zamboni at EA ... And it is very likely that the director of EA sports did this work before joining EA and he has bad memories of the work !!! Otherwise, I can't explain why this one isn't part of every EA hockey from 1996 ??????

    Well, its part of hockey but until they can actually get the "hockey" part of a hockey game right, nothing else matters.

    in my opinion, this is pure discrimination! and if EA shows stadium maintenance staff, security guards, TV cameramen, mascots in the game, which are also just workers ... if EA doesn't show ice cleaners and their workloads in the video game ??? So yes, this is pure discrimination and in today's you it is catchable!
  • Oslik1000 wrote: »
    Oslik1000 wrote: »
    at 18:40 time you can see how zamboni clear the ice. it is so realistic! the camera angle is too much zoomed but fine.



    if imagine this in nhl2007 to nhl21 to nhl x next gen ..... why couldn't it be there ???? The only explanation is that they don't like zamboni at EA ... And it is very likely that the director of EA sports did this work before joining EA and he has bad memories of the work !!! Otherwise, I can't explain why this one isn't part of every EA hockey from 1996 ??????

    Well, its part of hockey but until they can actually get the "hockey" part of a hockey game right, nothing else matters.

    in my opinion, this is pure discrimination! and if EA shows stadium maintenance staff, security guards, TV cameramen, mascots in the game, which are also just workers ... if EA doesn't show ice cleaners and their workloads in the video game ??? So yes, this is pure discrimination and in today's you it is catchable!

    I still forgot about sellers of hot-dogs and popcorn. yes there are those in the game too. Maybe somewhere in some video game we can even find a cleaner and floor cleaner ... so yes EA is trying to make reality as well as outside on outdoor skating we see tractors and plows around! So why are zamboni missing with the driver ???????
  • Maybe in NHL 22, when you boot the game up, your sliders will play how they always play. Guessing this won’t be fixed for 21, not holding my breath for 22. Do love booting up playoff mode or season mode and having one game finish 2-2 and the next 6-5 but not because of bad bounces or perfect execution, no, it’s because fatigue starts not mattering, puck pickups become automatic rather than difficult like I had configured, and shot accuracy becomes reminiscent of the competitive default where gliding = bar down every single time.

    There’s just a glaring and blatantly obvious bug with the slider system that has never been addressed/fixed and it makes the system utterly useless for offline players until it’s solved. Haven’t seen this once in NHL 13 in the bit I’ve been playing it here just to compare generations.
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