"Cross crease is all you see. It is boring." - Adam. Cause Adam don't know how to defend cross crease goals
"Every game we play is the same. I want dynamism. " - Dan. Cause Dan is trying only to score cross crease
"This game is reliant on who can exploit it better. 1 in 10 games is hockey, the rest is loop, loop, force a pass. Who cares if we win? That is not the point. Total monotony." - Mike. Cause Mike is not good enough to move up on division
this game is fun cause we can score many ways. from behind the net like last year as example.
The views presented here are shared by no small number of people who have been playing this game for a considerable length of time. Not a bunch of scrubs who don't know how to play the game.
The exact issue is that while there are more new fun ways to score... there are few to none new ways to counter/defend against that.
I'm sure these new mechanics are great fun for forwards but for those of us who play D (and most assuredly goalie) and are stuck with largely broken and unreliable tools for playing defense, it is making things much LESS enjoyable. I am all for improvements for some but not at the expense of others.
I play defense exclusively and I have had only a small number of gripes with the functionality there.
The system isn't broken - just gotta play better defense
There is a 27 page thread that indicates you may be in the minority on this. I will assume you also play club (?) where some of this is probably greatly mitigated.
a 27-page thread on a message board where 90% of the people come here just to rage after a loss is not indicative of the state of the game.
- Users are able to execute no-look, behind the back passes with 100% accuracy.
The system isn't broken - just gotta play better defense
- Users can hold the puck to their backhand/forehand and maintain momentum and speed for too many frames while also having top tier agility and balance.
The system isn't broken - just gotta play better defense
- A.I. defensive coverage in front of the net is, at times, abysmal.
The system isn't broken - just gotta play better defense
- A.I. offensive awareness in front of the net is, at times, abysmal.
The system isn't broken - just gotta play better defense
- Puck protect at low speeds is still slightly too OP.
The system isn't broken - just gotta play better defense
- Sometimes a well-timed poke check in the direction of the intended receiver on a cross-crease attempt results in the poke targeting (and then missing) the incoming puck rather than disrupting the shot and/or substantially decreasing the accuracy of a shot
The system isn't broken - just gotta play better defense
- In the same scenario (a cross-crease attempt) less skilled players can simply lay down in the passing lane, slide directly in to their goalie, but their goalie still is able to make the save.
The system isn't broken - just gotta play better defense
- Players are still able to keep control of the puck while intentionally skating directly in to the boards in order to protect their possession. Skating directly in to the boards while holding the puck should result in the puck being knocked loose.
The system isn't broken - just gotta play better defense
- Users can spam R3 poke - I know because I currently do it. The accuracy of each subsequent poke check should be reduced and eventually head in to penalty territory.
The system isn't broken - just gotta play better defense
- Interference calls for shoving players in the slot or in front of the goalie. There seems to be an area of the ice where no calls are made, but it's inconsistent at times.
The system isn't broken - just gotta play better defense
- LT still chaps me. Players still abuse it, particularly at low speeds. It needs to be nerfed.
The system isn't broken - just gotta play better defense
- Player changing needs to be fine tuned a little more. It's better this year, but I'm still finding player switching inconsistent. Icon-based switching would be ideal. RT+R3 works well for taking control of a player in front of the net, but RT+RS isn't as consistent as I'd like. I'm often flicking my stick to the right (to take control of RW) but it switches me to center. I think it needs to be tuned a little better.
The system isn't broken - just gotta play better defense
- You can't use the shoot button in the defensive zone anymore to clear the puck because it targets your own net
The system isn't broken - just gotta play better defense
- Backskating speed needs to be bumped up like 1 or 2 notches. Something just barely noticeable but effective to help quell the forwards' speed through the neutral zone.
The system isn't broken - just gotta play better defense
All in all, The system isn't broken - just gotta play better defense . No look backhand passes forced through traffic are not an issue. The countless times somebody uses an actual defensive mechanic properly and still gets beat is not an issue. Holding the stick to the backhand creating a magic bubble is not an issue. None of that is a problem. The answer of course, in this thread designed to be a constructive conversation that has been hijacked by two people who intentionally fuel combative conversations and can seemingly say what they want because they support EA, is "The system isn't broken - just gotta play better defense ". Wow, so profound! So enlightening. Thank you so much for providing constructive thought! Deny pucks going through objects. Blame the player! The ridiculous amount of content I spent hours of my time, that I do not have a lot of and still volunteered to TRY to help this dump of a forum, compiling from many different sources means absolutely nothing. These gripes are all an illusion. The game is fine. People are, apparently, not allowed to criticize a product they spent money on. I truly hope you never leave anyone a bad review, @KidShowtime1867 . If you do, that would make you a hypocrite. Went to a restaurant and the food was poor? No big deal, you should have played better defense. Bought a car that did not operate safely? No big deal, play better defense. Bought a TV that burned out? Should have played better defense. All those examples are your fault and not the provider of these services or creators of these products. Give. Me. A. Break.
First of all, @Stephlefan6AX , you have no idea how my friends play. Sorry, I meant played because they quit playing this game due to it's monotony. Adam, Dan, and Mike all do just fine. We play, sorry "played", real hockey and still beat the sweaty, try-hard losers who try to exploit the game about 70% of the time. Division 1 baby. You don't get there being poor. Feel free to bring your boys and challenge us sometime. Oh wait, my friends dont play anymore because the game is so "balanced". But thank you for assuming so much about people you do not know. This thread was started to try and sway the balance of this forum I have read for many years and have seen it devolve into the typical assumptions and condescension that is allowed if you are an EA sympathizer.
Cause Adam don't know how to defend cross crease goals - assumption, presuming Adam sucks. Cool.
Cause Dan is trying only to score cross crease - assumption, presuming to know how other people play. Cool.
Cause Mike is not good enough to move up on division - assumption, presuming Mike sucks. Cool.
a 27-page thread on a message board where 90% of the people come here just to rage after a loss is not indicative of the state of the game. - assumption, presuming that people have gripes because they lost. Cool.
People like myself, like my friends, like all of those "complainers" in the "community" you like to dump on so much feel neglected, forgotten, and are upset a game they are passionate about has turned into the Fortnite of sports gaming. You want to talk about how to keep this forum community from developing less toxicity? Sure. Let's do that.
1. When someone does present a constructive thread, community managers MAY comment on it. No developers. God forbid they come on because the few trolls here scared them away. At least dignify those who are TRYING. Concepts are not discussed. Questions are not asked. Questions are not answered.
2. You then have a few people who are allowed to do nothing but be combative simply because they support EA like puritanical robots. A double standard exists here. I joined this place a few months ago to TRY to bring something to the table and my opinions are allowed to be dumped on DEVOID of anything of substance or constructive thought. Just "you are wrong, I am right, the game is fine, you suck". Awesome!
3. You then have people who contribute nothing other than pure negativity and "the game is trash". As well as conspiracy theories and concepts that cannot even be proven.
But no, we are supposed to all play nice and hug each other? Get out of here. I popped on to see if maybe my decision to leave was premature or off base. Apparently I was correct. Thanks for ruining a good idea. Thank you for not supporting someone trying to do what this place is SUPPOSED to be doing. Thank you for sabotaging.
The golden age of these forums was about 12 years ago. There’s a small handful of people left that try to do what we can, but all the really great video providers left because the videos they shared from NHL 15 about AI issues still haven’t been even remotely fixed in NHL 21. I still like offering help, advice, feedback, but I just keep an insanely low expectation of being heard to stay sane.
"Cross crease is all you see. It is boring." - Adam. Cause Adam don't know how to defend cross crease goals
"Every game we play is the same. I want dynamism. " - Dan. Cause Dan is trying only to score cross crease
"This game is reliant on who can exploit it better. 1 in 10 games is hockey, the rest is loop, loop, force a pass. Who cares if we win? That is not the point. Total monotony." - Mike. Cause Mike is not good enough to move up on division
this game is fun cause we can score many ways. from behind the net like last year as example.
The views presented here are shared by no small number of people who have been playing this game for a considerable length of time. Not a bunch of scrubs who don't know how to play the game.
The exact issue is that while there are more new fun ways to score... there are few to none new ways to counter/defend against that.
I'm sure these new mechanics are great fun for forwards but for those of us who play D (and most assuredly goalie) and are stuck with largely broken and unreliable tools for playing defense, it is making things much LESS enjoyable. I am all for improvements for some but not at the expense of others.
I play defense exclusively and I have had only a small number of gripes with the functionality there.
The system isn't broken - just gotta play better defense
There is a 27 page thread that indicates you may be in the minority on this. I will assume you also play club (?) where some of this is probably greatly mitigated.
a 27-page thread on a message board where 90% of the people come here just to rage after a loss is not indicative of the state of the game.
- Users are able to execute no-look, behind the back passes with 100% accuracy.
The system isn't broken - just gotta play better defense
- Users can hold the puck to their backhand/forehand and maintain momentum and speed for too many frames while also having top tier agility and balance.
The system isn't broken - just gotta play better defense
- A.I. defensive coverage in front of the net is, at times, abysmal.
The system isn't broken - just gotta play better defense
- A.I. offensive awareness in front of the net is, at times, abysmal.
The system isn't broken - just gotta play better defense
- Puck protect at low speeds is still slightly too OP.
The system isn't broken - just gotta play better defense
- Sometimes a well-timed poke check in the direction of the intended receiver on a cross-crease attempt results in the poke targeting (and then missing) the incoming puck rather than disrupting the shot and/or substantially decreasing the accuracy of a shot
The system isn't broken - just gotta play better defense
- In the same scenario (a cross-crease attempt) less skilled players can simply lay down in the passing lane, slide directly in to their goalie, but their goalie still is able to make the save.
The system isn't broken - just gotta play better defense
- Players are still able to keep control of the puck while intentionally skating directly in to the boards in order to protect their possession. Skating directly in to the boards while holding the puck should result in the puck being knocked loose.
The system isn't broken - just gotta play better defense
- Users can spam R3 poke - I know because I currently do it. The accuracy of each subsequent poke check should be reduced and eventually head in to penalty territory.
The system isn't broken - just gotta play better defense
- Interference calls for shoving players in the slot or in front of the goalie. There seems to be an area of the ice where no calls are made, but it's inconsistent at times.
The system isn't broken - just gotta play better defense
- LT still chaps me. Players still abuse it, particularly at low speeds. It needs to be nerfed.
The system isn't broken - just gotta play better defense
- Player changing needs to be fine tuned a little more. It's better this year, but I'm still finding player switching inconsistent. Icon-based switching would be ideal. RT+R3 works well for taking control of a player in front of the net, but RT+RS isn't as consistent as I'd like. I'm often flicking my stick to the right (to take control of RW) but it switches me to center. I think it needs to be tuned a little better.
The system isn't broken - just gotta play better defense
- You can't use the shoot button in the defensive zone anymore to clear the puck because it targets your own net
The system isn't broken - just gotta play better defense
- Backskating speed needs to be bumped up like 1 or 2 notches. Something just barely noticeable but effective to help quell the forwards' speed through the neutral zone.
The system isn't broken - just gotta play better defense
All in all, The system isn't broken - just gotta play better defense . No look backhand passes forced through traffic are not an issue. The countless times somebody uses an actual defensive mechanic properly and still gets beat is not an issue. Holding the stick to the backhand creating a magic bubble is not an issue. None of that is a problem. The answer of course, in this thread designed to be a constructive conversation that has been hijacked by two people who intentionally fuel combative conversations and can seemingly say what they want because they support EA, is "The system isn't broken - just gotta play better defense ". Wow, so profound! So enlightening. Thank you so much for providing constructive thought! Deny pucks going through objects. Blame the player! The ridiculous amount of content I spent hours of my time, that I do not have a lot of and still volunteered to TRY to help this dump of a forum, compiling from many different sources means absolutely nothing. These gripes are all an illusion. The game is fine. People are, apparently, not allowed to criticize a product they spent money on. I truly hope you never leave anyone a bad review, @KidShowtime1867 . If you do, that would make you a hypocrite. Went to a restaurant and the food was poor? No big deal, you should have played better defense. Bought a car that did not operate safely? No big deal, play better defense. Bought a TV that burned out? Should have played better defense. All those examples are your fault and not the provider of these services or creators of these products. Give. Me. A. Break.
First of all, @Stephlefan6AX , you have no idea how my friends play. Sorry, I meant played because they quit playing this game due to it's monotony. Adam, Dan, and Mike all do just fine. We play, sorry "played", real hockey and still beat the sweaty, try-hard losers who try to exploit the game about 70% of the time. Division 1 baby. You don't get there being poor. Feel free to bring your boys and challenge us sometime. Oh wait, my friends dont play anymore because the game is so "balanced". But thank you for assuming so much about people you do not know. This thread was started to try and sway the balance of this forum I have read for many years and have seen it devolve into the typical assumptions and condescension that is allowed if you are an EA sympathizer.
Cause Adam don't know how to defend cross crease goals - assumption, presuming Adam sucks. Cool.
Cause Dan is trying only to score cross crease - assumption, presuming to know how other people play. Cool.
Cause Mike is not good enough to move up on division - assumption, presuming Mike sucks. Cool.
a 27-page thread on a message board where 90% of the people come here just to rage after a loss is not indicative of the state of the game. - assumption, presuming that people have gripes because they lost. Cool.
People like myself, like my friends, like all of those "complainers" in the "community" you like to dump on so much feel neglected, forgotten, and are upset a game they are passionate about has turned into the Fortnite of sports gaming. You want to talk about how to keep this forum community from developing less toxicity? Sure. Let's do that.
1. When someone does present a constructive thread, community managers MAY comment on it. No developers. God forbid they come on because the few trolls here scared them away. At least dignify those who are TRYING. Concepts are not discussed. Questions are not asked. Questions are not answered.
2. You then have a few people who are allowed to do nothing but be combative simply because they support EA like puritanical robots. A double standard exists here. I joined this place a few months ago to TRY to bring something to the table and my opinions are allowed to be dumped on DEVOID of anything of substance or constructive thought. Just "you are wrong, I am right, the game is fine, you suck". Awesome!
3. You then have people who contribute nothing other than pure negativity and "the game is trash". As well as conspiracy theories and concepts that cannot even be proven.
But no, we are supposed to all play nice and hug each other? Get out of here. I popped on to see if maybe my decision to leave was premature or off base. Apparently I was correct. Thanks for ruining a good idea. Thank you for not supporting someone trying to do what this place is SUPPOSED to be doing. Thank you for sabotaging.
meh, didn't even read this mess tbh. I'm not going to play in to all of your personal attacks yet again.
Not pointing any fingers but kid mention this whole list of problems with the game;
"Users are able to execute no-look, behind the back passes with 100% accuracy.
- Users can hold the puck to their backhand/forehand and maintain momentum and speed for too many frames while also having top tier agility and balance.
- A.I. defensive coverage in front of the net is, at times, abysmal.
- A.I. offensive awareness in front of the net is, at times, abysmal.
- Puck protect at low speeds is still slightly too OP.
- Sometimes a well-timed poke check in the direction of the intended receiver on a cross-crease attempt results in the poke targeting (and then missing) the incoming puck rather than disrupting the shot and/or substantially decreasing the accuracy of a shot
- In the same scenario (a cross-crease attempt) less skilled players can simply lay down in the passing lane, slide directly in to their goalie, but their goalie still is able to make the save.
- Players are still able to keep control of the puck while intentionally skating directly in to the boards in order to protect their possession. Skating directly in to the boards while holding the puck should result in the puck being knocked loose.
- Users can spam R3 poke - I know because I currently do it. The accuracy of each subsequent poke check should be reduced and eventually head in to penalty territory.
- Interference calls for shoving players in the slot or in front of the goalie. There seems to be an area of the ice where no calls are made, but it's inconsistent at times.
- LT still chaps me. Players still abuse it, particularly at low speeds. It needs to be nerfed.
- Player changing needs to be fine tuned a little more. It's better this year, but I'm still finding player switching inconsistent. Icon-based switching would be ideal. RT+R3 works well for taking control of a player in front of the net, but RT+RS isn't as consistent as I'd like. I'm often flicking my stick to the right (to take control of RW) but it switches me to center. I think it needs to be tuned a little better.
- You can't use the shoot button in the defensive zone anymore to clear the puck because it targets your own net
- Backskating speed needs to be bumped up like 1 or 2 notches. Something just barely noticeable but effective to help quell the forwards' speed through the neutral zone."
I think he's covering up pretty good... If this was addressed, im sure alot of us that argue wouldn’t need to do that.
I do bealive alot of us want the same thing here, but we got a little diffrent perspective and patience about it.
I am kinda done with this "love fest" between the two of you. Any legitimacy to your points is drowned in the "mutual self-congratulating" going on here.
I am kinda done with this "love fest" between the two of you. Any legitimacy to your points is drowned in the "mutual self-congratulating" going on here.
To be fair, @Sega82mega brings something to the table in these forums. I admire his positivity and his willingness to consider different perspectives. On one hand he isn't wrong, KidChewTimeToy did bring a list of things to this discussion. That is legit. I like that. On the other, he lists these things and then in the same thread tells you and others that the same exact things he listed are the users fault and not the game and then, in such a laughable manner, victimizes himself to try and seem righteous. HA.
With that said, I would much rather see someone like @Sega82mega try to do what he is doing than FitBlueToy try to incite argument constantly
Not pointing any fingers but kid mention this whole list of problems with the game;
"Users are able to execute no-look, behind the back passes with 100% accuracy.
- Users can hold the puck to their backhand/forehand and maintain momentum and speed for too many frames while also having top tier agility and balance.
- A.I. defensive coverage in front of the net is, at times, abysmal.
- A.I. offensive awareness in front of the net is, at times, abysmal.
- Puck protect at low speeds is still slightly too OP.
- Sometimes a well-timed poke check in the direction of the intended receiver on a cross-crease attempt results in the poke targeting (and then missing) the incoming puck rather than disrupting the shot and/or substantially decreasing the accuracy of a shot
- In the same scenario (a cross-crease attempt) less skilled players can simply lay down in the passing lane, slide directly in to their goalie, but their goalie still is able to make the save.
- Players are still able to keep control of the puck while intentionally skating directly in to the boards in order to protect their possession. Skating directly in to the boards while holding the puck should result in the puck being knocked loose.
- Users can spam R3 poke - I know because I currently do it. The accuracy of each subsequent poke check should be reduced and eventually head in to penalty territory.
- Interference calls for shoving players in the slot or in front of the goalie. There seems to be an area of the ice where no calls are made, but it's inconsistent at times.
- LT still chaps me. Players still abuse it, particularly at low speeds. It needs to be nerfed.
- Player changing needs to be fine tuned a little more. It's better this year, but I'm still finding player switching inconsistent. Icon-based switching would be ideal. RT+R3 works well for taking control of a player in front of the net, but RT+RS isn't as consistent as I'd like. I'm often flicking my stick to the right (to take control of RW) but it switches me to center. I think it needs to be tuned a little better.
- You can't use the shoot button in the defensive zone anymore to clear the puck because it targets your own net
- Backskating speed needs to be bumped up like 1 or 2 notches. Something just barely noticeable but effective to help quell the forwards' speed through the neutral zone."
I think he's covering up pretty good... If this was addressed, im sure alot of us that argue wouldn’t need to do that.
I do bealive alot of us want the same thing here, but we got a little diffrent perspective and patience about it.
No worries, @Sega82mega , I like you and your style. Your attempts at reasonable conversation are appreciated.
"Cross crease is all you see. It is boring." - Adam. Cause Adam don't know how to defend cross crease goals
"Every game we play is the same. I want dynamism. " - Dan. Cause Dan is trying only to score cross crease
"This game is reliant on who can exploit it better. 1 in 10 games is hockey, the rest is loop, loop, force a pass. Who cares if we win? That is not the point. Total monotony." - Mike. Cause Mike is not good enough to move up on division
this game is fun cause we can score many ways. from behind the net like last year as example.
The views presented here are shared by no small number of people who have been playing this game for a considerable length of time. Not a bunch of scrubs who don't know how to play the game.
The exact issue is that while there are more new fun ways to score... there are few to none new ways to counter/defend against that.
I'm sure these new mechanics are great fun for forwards but for those of us who play D (and most assuredly goalie) and are stuck with largely broken and unreliable tools for playing defense, it is making things much LESS enjoyable. I am all for improvements for some but not at the expense of others.
I play defense exclusively and I have had only a small number of gripes with the functionality there.
The system isn't broken - just gotta play better defense
There is a 27 page thread that indicates you may be in the minority on this. I will assume you also play club (?) where some of this is probably greatly mitigated.
a 27-page thread on a message board where 90% of the people come here just to rage after a loss is not indicative of the state of the game.
- Users are able to execute no-look, behind the back passes with 100% accuracy.
The system isn't broken - just gotta play better defense
- Users can hold the puck to their backhand/forehand and maintain momentum and speed for too many frames while also having top tier agility and balance.
The system isn't broken - just gotta play better defense
- A.I. defensive coverage in front of the net is, at times, abysmal.
The system isn't broken - just gotta play better defense
- A.I. offensive awareness in front of the net is, at times, abysmal.
The system isn't broken - just gotta play better defense
- Puck protect at low speeds is still slightly too OP.
The system isn't broken - just gotta play better defense
- Sometimes a well-timed poke check in the direction of the intended receiver on a cross-crease attempt results in the poke targeting (and then missing) the incoming puck rather than disrupting the shot and/or substantially decreasing the accuracy of a shot
The system isn't broken - just gotta play better defense
- In the same scenario (a cross-crease attempt) less skilled players can simply lay down in the passing lane, slide directly in to their goalie, but their goalie still is able to make the save.
The system isn't broken - just gotta play better defense
- Players are still able to keep control of the puck while intentionally skating directly in to the boards in order to protect their possession. Skating directly in to the boards while holding the puck should result in the puck being knocked loose.
The system isn't broken - just gotta play better defense
- Users can spam R3 poke - I know because I currently do it. The accuracy of each subsequent poke check should be reduced and eventually head in to penalty territory.
The system isn't broken - just gotta play better defense
- Interference calls for shoving players in the slot or in front of the goalie. There seems to be an area of the ice where no calls are made, but it's inconsistent at times.
The system isn't broken - just gotta play better defense
- LT still chaps me. Players still abuse it, particularly at low speeds. It needs to be nerfed.
The system isn't broken - just gotta play better defense
- Player changing needs to be fine tuned a little more. It's better this year, but I'm still finding player switching inconsistent. Icon-based switching would be ideal. RT+R3 works well for taking control of a player in front of the net, but RT+RS isn't as consistent as I'd like. I'm often flicking my stick to the right (to take control of RW) but it switches me to center. I think it needs to be tuned a little better.
The system isn't broken - just gotta play better defense
- You can't use the shoot button in the defensive zone anymore to clear the puck because it targets your own net
The system isn't broken - just gotta play better defense
- Backskating speed needs to be bumped up like 1 or 2 notches. Something just barely noticeable but effective to help quell the forwards' speed through the neutral zone.
The system isn't broken - just gotta play better defense
All in all, The system isn't broken - just gotta play better defense . No look backhand passes forced through traffic are not an issue. The countless times somebody uses an actual defensive mechanic properly and still gets beat is not an issue. Holding the stick to the backhand creating a magic bubble is not an issue. None of that is a problem. The answer of course, in this thread designed to be a constructive conversation that has been hijacked by two people who intentionally fuel combative conversations and can seemingly say what they want because they support EA, is "The system isn't broken - just gotta play better defense ". Wow, so profound! So enlightening. Thank you so much for providing constructive thought! Deny pucks going through objects. Blame the player! The ridiculous amount of content I spent hours of my time, that I do not have a lot of and still volunteered to TRY to help this dump of a forum, compiling from many different sources means absolutely nothing. These gripes are all an illusion. The game is fine. People are, apparently, not allowed to criticize a product they spent money on. I truly hope you never leave anyone a bad review, @KidShowtime1867 . If you do, that would make you a hypocrite. Went to a restaurant and the food was poor? No big deal, you should have played better defense. Bought a car that did not operate safely? No big deal, play better defense. Bought a TV that burned out? Should have played better defense. All those examples are your fault and not the provider of these services or creators of these products. Give. Me. A. Break.
First of all, @Stephlefan6AX , you have no idea how my friends play. Sorry, I meant played because they quit playing this game due to it's monotony. Adam, Dan, and Mike all do just fine. We play, sorry "played", real hockey and still beat the sweaty, try-hard losers who try to exploit the game about 70% of the time. Division 1 baby. You don't get there being poor. Feel free to bring your boys and challenge us sometime. Oh wait, my friends dont play anymore because the game is so "balanced". But thank you for assuming so much about people you do not know. This thread was started to try and sway the balance of this forum I have read for many years and have seen it devolve into the typical assumptions and condescension that is allowed if you are an EA sympathizer.
Cause Adam don't know how to defend cross crease goals - assumption, presuming Adam sucks. Cool.
Cause Dan is trying only to score cross crease - assumption, presuming to know how other people play. Cool.
Cause Mike is not good enough to move up on division - assumption, presuming Mike sucks. Cool.
a 27-page thread on a message board where 90% of the people come here just to rage after a loss is not indicative of the state of the game. - assumption, presuming that people have gripes because they lost. Cool.
People like myself, like my friends, like all of those "complainers" in the "community" you like to dump on so much feel neglected, forgotten, and are upset a game they are passionate about has turned into the Fortnite of sports gaming. You want to talk about how to keep this forum community from developing less toxicity? Sure. Let's do that.
1. When someone does present a constructive thread, community managers MAY comment on it. No developers. God forbid they come on because the few trolls here scared them away. At least dignify those who are TRYING. Concepts are not discussed. Questions are not asked. Questions are not answered.
2. You then have a few people who are allowed to do nothing but be combative simply because they support EA like puritanical robots. A double standard exists here. I joined this place a few months ago to TRY to bring something to the table and my opinions are allowed to be dumped on DEVOID of anything of substance or constructive thought. Just "you are wrong, I am right, the game is fine, you suck". Awesome!
3. You then have people who contribute nothing other than pure negativity and "the game is trash". As well as conspiracy theories and concepts that cannot even be proven.
But no, we are supposed to all play nice and hug each other? Get out of here. I popped on to see if maybe my decision to leave was premature or off base. Apparently I was correct. Thanks for ruining a good idea. Thank you for not supporting someone trying to do what this place is SUPPOSED to be doing. Thank you for sabotaging.
The golden age of these forums was about 12 years ago. There’s a small handful of people left that try to do what we can, but all the really great video providers left because the videos they shared from NHL 15 about AI issues still haven’t been even remotely fixed in NHL 21. I still like offering help, advice, feedback, but I just keep an insanely low expectation of being heard to stay sane.
@untouchable_BF1 , I think we would all be living a fiction to think everything we say here can or would be implemented. With that said I think there is a lot of credence to the idea that some of the same crap has existed in this game for an entire console generation and it hasnt been addressed. I can see why there would be an exodus. Almost like core ideas are neglected
I am kinda done with this "love fest" between the two of you. Any legitimacy to your points is drowned in the "mutual self-congratulating" going on here.
To be fair, @Sega82mega brings something to the table in these forums. I admire his positivity and his willingness to consider different perspectives. On one hand he isn't wrong, KidChewTimeToy did bring a list of things to this discussion. That is legit. I like that. On the other, he lists these things and then in the same thread tells you and others that the same exact things he listed are the users fault and not the game and then, in such a laughable manner, victimizes himself to try and seem righteous. HA.
With that said, I would much rather see someone like @Sega82mega try to do what he is doing than FitBlueToy try to incite argument constantly
This is the problem. You can't expect any respect if you only hold that things you complain about as being legit issues.
I am kinda done with this "love fest" between the two of you. Any legitimacy to your points is drowned in the "mutual self-congratulating" going on here.
I dont know what anything between me and kid would have to do with you. Just look another direaction and you will be fine.
I get that 'kid' can be abit ruff sometimes, but that dosent change the fact that he says pretty good stuff about the game.
As do you, lion, but you seem to do it pretty personal sometimes and declare people stupid for not sayin same things as you.
I am kinda done with this "love fest" between the two of you. Any legitimacy to your points is drowned in the "mutual self-congratulating" going on here.
I dont know what anything between me and kid would have to do with you. Just look another direaction and you will be fine.
I get that 'kid' can be abit ruff sometimes, but that dosent change the fact that he says pretty good stuff about the game.
As do you, lion, but you seem to do it pretty personal sometimes and declare people stupid for not sayin same things as you.
@IceLion68 came here (via his post history) to try and decide if he was going to buy the game and enjoy it. His posts were questions about mechanics. He then has posted several instances where he feels like the game needs improvement. His concerns were pooped on while the exact same ideas/mechanics were shown and petitioned for via his debater. Of course he will respond negatively. This is a two way street. I do not see him coming into well intended threads trying to incite arguments...
There is a difference between personally attacking people and being a straight up troll. Do I think chewtimetoy is a troll? Sometimes. Other times I think he has well intended discussion. With that said, there is absolutely no reason to presume and assume so much about people and they way they play without investigating that concept.
This thread, in specific, was not me complaining the game is trash or I hate losing. It was compiling all kinds of critique from a multitude of mediums from the community in an attempt to get the attention of the people who make the game. I did not go through all of this work to argue with someone who may or may not be lonely or struggling in life. I went through this work to try and sway the balance of the forums. I, like many others, have failed.
I am kinda done with this "love fest" between the two of you. Any legitimacy to your points is drowned in the "mutual self-congratulating" going on here.
Lmaoo we just don’t take things personally and enjoy each other’s banter ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I am kinda done with this "love fest" between the two of you. Any legitimacy to your points is drowned in the "mutual self-congratulating" going on here.
Lmaoo we just don’t take things personally and enjoy each other’s banter ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Bring something to the table. Dignify the initial list. Bring your own. Discuss game concepts that need improved. Do not hijack my thread as you are attempting.
I am kinda done with this "love fest" between the two of you. Any legitimacy to your points is drowned in the "mutual self-congratulating" going on here.
I dont know what anything between me and kid would have to do with you. Just look another direaction and you will be fine.
I get that 'kid' can be abit ruff sometimes, but that dosent change the fact that he says pretty good stuff about the game.
As do you, lion, but you seem to do it pretty personal sometimes and declare people stupid for not sayin same things as you.
I am kinda done with this "love fest" between the two of you. Any legitimacy to your points is drowned in the "mutual self-congratulating" going on here.
I dont know what anything between me and kid would have to do with you. Just look another direaction and you will be fine.
I get that 'kid' can be abit ruff sometimes, but that dosent change the fact that he says pretty good stuff about the game.
As do you, lion, but you seem to do it pretty personal sometimes and declare people stupid for not sayin same things as you.
@IceLion68 came here (via his post history) to try and decide if he was going to buy the game and enjoy it. His posts were questions about mechanics. He then has posted several instances where he feels like the game needs improvement. His concerns were pooped on while the exact same ideas/mechanics were shown and petitioned for via his debater. Of course he will respond negatively. This is a two way street. I do not see him coming into well intended threads trying to incite arguments...
There is a difference between personally attacking people and being a straight up troll. Do I think chewtimetoy is a troll? Sometimes. Other times I think he has well intended discussion. With that said, there is absolutely no reason to presume and assume so much about people and they way they play without investigating that concept.
This thread, in specific, was not me complaining the game is trash or I hate losing. It was compiling all kinds of critique from a multitude of mediums from the community in an attempt to get the attention of the people who make the game. I did not go through all of this work to argue with someone who may or may not be lonely or struggling in life. I went through this work to try and sway the balance of the forums. I, like many others, have failed.
Good said, you do know I like you too. And I like this thread you started, but I can also tell your patience with this game is startin to be over. And ofc you must be free to get that out, I know we look at hockey pretty much the same.
I am kinda done with this "love fest" between the two of you. Any legitimacy to your points is drowned in the "mutual self-congratulating" going on here.
Lmaoo we just don’t take things personally and enjoy each other’s banter ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Bring something to the table. Dignify the initial list. Bring your own. Discuss game concepts that need improved. Do not hijack my thread as you are attempting.
Excuse me? I bring a lot to the table. I provide COUNTLESS feedback including entire threads devoted to my issues with the game which includes video evidence.
Far more than simply stating “x is broken” and then personally attacking people who don’t agree with me....
I’ve worked very hard at being less abrasive around here.
I’ve provided hundreds of gifs and feedback surrounding issues with the game.
All of that only to be attacked by you because you simply don’t agree with me.
It’s so disheartening and now I remember why I stayed away for a couple of weeks.
Hopefully the moderation team can handle you - it’s so tiring when a simple differing of opinions turns in to constant personal attacks form you.
"Cross crease is all you see. It is boring." - Adam. Cause Adam don't know how to defend cross crease goals
"Every game we play is the same. I want dynamism. " - Dan. Cause Dan is trying only to score cross crease
"This game is reliant on who can exploit it better. 1 in 10 games is hockey, the rest is loop, loop, force a pass. Who cares if we win? That is not the point. Total monotony." - Mike. Cause Mike is not good enough to move up on division
this game is fun cause we can score many ways. from behind the net like last year as example.
The views presented here are shared by no small number of people who have been playing this game for a considerable length of time. Not a bunch of scrubs who don't know how to play the game.
The exact issue is that while there are more new fun ways to score... there are few to none new ways to counter/defend against that.
I'm sure these new mechanics are great fun for forwards but for those of us who play D (and most assuredly goalie) and are stuck with largely broken and unreliable tools for playing defense, it is making things much LESS enjoyable. I am all for improvements for some but not at the expense of others.
I play defense exclusively and I have had only a small number of gripes with the functionality there.
The system isn't broken - just gotta play better defense
There is a 27 page thread that indicates you may be in the minority on this. I will assume you also play club (?) where some of this is probably greatly mitigated.
a 27-page thread on a message board where 90% of the people come here just to rage after a loss is not indicative of the state of the game.
- Users are able to execute no-look, behind the back passes with 100% accuracy.
The system isn't broken - just gotta play better defense
- Users can hold the puck to their backhand/forehand and maintain momentum and speed for too many frames while also having top tier agility and balance.
The system isn't broken - just gotta play better defense
- A.I. defensive coverage in front of the net is, at times, abysmal.
The system isn't broken - just gotta play better defense
- A.I. offensive awareness in front of the net is, at times, abysmal.
The system isn't broken - just gotta play better defense
- Puck protect at low speeds is still slightly too OP.
The system isn't broken - just gotta play better defense
- Sometimes a well-timed poke check in the direction of the intended receiver on a cross-crease attempt results in the poke targeting (and then missing) the incoming puck rather than disrupting the shot and/or substantially decreasing the accuracy of a shot
The system isn't broken - just gotta play better defense
- In the same scenario (a cross-crease attempt) less skilled players can simply lay down in the passing lane, slide directly in to their goalie, but their goalie still is able to make the save.
The system isn't broken - just gotta play better defense
- Players are still able to keep control of the puck while intentionally skating directly in to the boards in order to protect their possession. Skating directly in to the boards while holding the puck should result in the puck being knocked loose.
The system isn't broken - just gotta play better defense
- Users can spam R3 poke - I know because I currently do it. The accuracy of each subsequent poke check should be reduced and eventually head in to penalty territory.
The system isn't broken - just gotta play better defense
- Interference calls for shoving players in the slot or in front of the goalie. There seems to be an area of the ice where no calls are made, but it's inconsistent at times.
The system isn't broken - just gotta play better defense
- LT still chaps me. Players still abuse it, particularly at low speeds. It needs to be nerfed.
The system isn't broken - just gotta play better defense
- Player changing needs to be fine tuned a little more. It's better this year, but I'm still finding player switching inconsistent. Icon-based switching would be ideal. RT+R3 works well for taking control of a player in front of the net, but RT+RS isn't as consistent as I'd like. I'm often flicking my stick to the right (to take control of RW) but it switches me to center. I think it needs to be tuned a little better.
The system isn't broken - just gotta play better defense
- You can't use the shoot button in the defensive zone anymore to clear the puck because it targets your own net
The system isn't broken - just gotta play better defense
- Backskating speed needs to be bumped up like 1 or 2 notches. Something just barely noticeable but effective to help quell the forwards' speed through the neutral zone.
The system isn't broken - just gotta play better defense
All in all, The system isn't broken - just gotta play better defense . No look backhand passes forced through traffic are not an issue. The countless times somebody uses an actual defensive mechanic properly and still gets beat is not an issue. Holding the stick to the backhand creating a magic bubble is not an issue. None of that is a problem. The answer of course, in this thread designed to be a constructive conversation that has been hijacked by two people who intentionally fuel combative conversations and can seemingly say what they want because they support EA, is "The system isn't broken - just gotta play better defense ". Wow, so profound! So enlightening. Thank you so much for providing constructive thought! Deny pucks going through objects. Blame the player! The ridiculous amount of content I spent hours of my time, that I do not have a lot of and still volunteered to TRY to help this dump of a forum, compiling from many different sources means absolutely nothing. These gripes are all an illusion. The game is fine. People are, apparently, not allowed to criticize a product they spent money on. I truly hope you never leave anyone a bad review, @KidShowtime1867 . If you do, that would make you a hypocrite. Went to a restaurant and the food was poor? No big deal, you should have played better defense. Bought a car that did not operate safely? No big deal, play better defense. Bought a TV that burned out? Should have played better defense. All those examples are your fault and not the provider of these services or creators of these products. Give. Me. A. Break.
First of all, @Stephlefan6AX , you have no idea how my friends play. Sorry, I meant played because they quit playing this game due to it's monotony. Adam, Dan, and Mike all do just fine. We play, sorry "played", real hockey and still beat the sweaty, try-hard losers who try to exploit the game about 70% of the time. Division 1 baby. You don't get there being poor. Feel free to bring your boys and challenge us sometime. Oh wait, my friends dont play anymore because the game is so "balanced". But thank you for assuming so much about people you do not know. This thread was started to try and sway the balance of this forum I have read for many years and have seen it devolve into the typical assumptions and condescension that is allowed if you are an EA sympathizer.
Cause Adam don't know how to defend cross crease goals - assumption, presuming Adam sucks. Cool.
Cause Dan is trying only to score cross crease - assumption, presuming to know how other people play. Cool.
Cause Mike is not good enough to move up on division - assumption, presuming Mike sucks. Cool.
a 27-page thread on a message board where 90% of the people come here just to rage after a loss is not indicative of the state of the game. - assumption, presuming that people have gripes because they lost. Cool.
People like myself, like my friends, like all of those "complainers" in the "community" you like to dump on so much feel neglected, forgotten, and are upset a game they are passionate about has turned into the Fortnite of sports gaming. You want to talk about how to keep this forum community from developing less toxicity? Sure. Let's do that.
1. When someone does present a constructive thread, community managers MAY comment on it. No developers. God forbid they come on because the few trolls here scared them away. At least dignify those who are TRYING. Concepts are not discussed. Questions are not asked. Questions are not answered.
2. You then have a few people who are allowed to do nothing but be combative simply because they support EA like puritanical robots. A double standard exists here. I joined this place a few months ago to TRY to bring something to the table and my opinions are allowed to be dumped on DEVOID of anything of substance or constructive thought. Just "you are wrong, I am right, the game is fine, you suck". Awesome!
3. You then have people who contribute nothing other than pure negativity and "the game is trash". As well as conspiracy theories and concepts that cannot even be proven.
But no, we are supposed to all play nice and hug each other? Get out of here. I popped on to see if maybe my decision to leave was premature or off base. Apparently I was correct. Thanks for ruining a good idea. Thank you for not supporting someone trying to do what this place is SUPPOSED to be doing. Thank you for sabotaging.
The golden age of these forums was about 12 years ago. There’s a small handful of people left that try to do what we can, but all the really great video providers left because the videos they shared from NHL 15 about AI issues still haven’t been even remotely fixed in NHL 21. I still like offering help, advice, feedback, but I just keep an insanely low expectation of being heard to stay sane.
@untouchable_BF1 , I think we would all be living a fiction to think everything we say here can or would be implemented. With that said I think there is a lot of credence to the idea that some of the same crap has existed in this game for an entire console generation and it hasnt been addressed. I can see why there would be an exodus. Almost like core ideas are neglected
I 100% agree, it’s just simple things like defenders not skating to corner or defenders in a trap not leaving their position of the trap for literally zero productive reason which in turn destroys the trap. I said it in another post I think, but problems like this far outweigh a one-timer animation change or skating style when it comes to replicating hockey. We’re actively being given the more condiments when the burger is still still raw lol.
I like your commentary, there’s a few of us here who are like-minded, I’d say don’t give up on these forums. They’re small, but the few who post a lot really loyal to the game and tend to understand hockey much more than Reddit or Twitter where there’s just a plethora of people that bash the game without reason or knowledge of the sport.
At the end of the day, this is just another medium to shout into the void, but I’d like to think the quality of the shouted words is a half-step above here compared to other places lol.
I am kinda done with this "love fest" between the two of you. Any legitimacy to your points is drowned in the "mutual self-congratulating" going on here.
Lmaoo we just don’t take things personally and enjoy each other’s banter ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Bring something to the table. Dignify the initial list. Bring your own. Discuss game concepts that need improved. Do not hijack my thread as you are attempting.
Excuse me? I bring a lot to the table. I provide COUNTLESS feedback including entire threads devoted to my issues with the game which includes video evidence.
Far more than simply stating “x is broken” and then personally attacking people who don’t agree with me....
In this thread specifically you have brought nothing to the table other than antagonization. Help me make the game better. Or don't. That is up to you. Until you grow up, I am done talking to you.
I am kinda done with this "love fest" between the two of you. Any legitimacy to your points is drowned in the "mutual self-congratulating" going on here.
I dont know what anything between me and kid would have to do with you. Just look another direaction and you will be fine.
I get that 'kid' can be abit ruff sometimes, but that dosent change the fact that he says pretty good stuff about the game.
As do you, lion, but you seem to do it pretty personal sometimes and declare people stupid for not sayin same things as you.
@IceLion68 came here (via his post history) to try and decide if he was going to buy the game and enjoy it. His posts were questions about mechanics. He then has posted several instances where he feels like the game needs improvement. His concerns were pooped on while the exact same ideas/mechanics were shown and petitioned for via his debater. Of course he will respond negatively. This is a two way street. I do not see him coming into well intended threads trying to incite arguments...
There is a difference between personally attacking people and being a straight up troll. Do I think chewtimetoy is a troll? Sometimes. Other times I think he has well intended discussion. With that said, there is absolutely no reason to presume and assume so much about people and they way they play without investigating that concept.
This thread, in specific, was not me complaining the game is trash or I hate losing. It was compiling all kinds of critique from a multitude of mediums from the community in an attempt to get the attention of the people who make the game. I did not go through all of this work to argue with someone who may or may not be lonely or struggling in life. I went through this work to try and sway the balance of the forums. I, like many others, have failed.
I am kinda done with this "love fest" between the two of you. Any legitimacy to your points is drowned in the "mutual self-congratulating" going on here.
I dont know what anything between me and kid would have to do with you. Just look another direaction and you will be fine.
I get that 'kid' can be abit ruff sometimes, but that dosent change the fact that he says pretty good stuff about the game.
As do you, lion, but you seem to do it pretty personal sometimes and declare people stupid for not sayin same things as you.
@IceLion68 came here (via his post history) to try and decide if he was going to buy the game and enjoy it. His posts were questions about mechanics. He then has posted several instances where he feels like the game needs improvement. His concerns were pooped on while the exact same ideas/mechanics were shown and petitioned for via his debater. Of course he will respond negatively. This is a two way street. I do not see him coming into well intended threads trying to incite arguments...
There is a difference between personally attacking people and being a straight up troll. Do I think chewtimetoy is a troll? Sometimes. Other times I think he has well intended discussion. With that said, there is absolutely no reason to presume and assume so much about people and they way they play without investigating that concept.
This thread, in specific, was not me complaining the game is trash or I hate losing. It was compiling all kinds of critique from a multitude of mediums from the community in an attempt to get the attention of the people who make the game. I did not go through all of this work to argue with someone who may or may not be lonely or struggling in life. I went through this work to try and sway the balance of the forums. I, like many others, have failed.
Good said, you do know I like you too. And I like this thread you started, but I can also tell your patience with this game is startin to be over. And ofc you must be free to get that out, I know we look at hockey pretty much the same.
Im just hanging in! 😉
It's funny though. Offline, I have the game playing decent. A lot of the things that annoy me are things you talk about too. Speed, poor AI positioning and movement, etc. I am enjoying offline. Online I just despise though. All my friends quit too and I am far too old and busy to scout for a new team. Honestly, I wouldnt want to though. Online is a cesspool right now in my opinion
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The golden age of these forums was about 12 years ago. There’s a small handful of people left that try to do what we can, but all the really great video providers left because the videos they shared from NHL 15 about AI issues still haven’t been even remotely fixed in NHL 21. I still like offering help, advice, feedback, but I just keep an insanely low expectation of being heard to stay sane.
meh, didn't even read this mess tbh. I'm not going to play in to all of your personal attacks yet again.
Then why respond to it at all? And for the love of god why quote the WHOLE DAMN THING when doing so? SMH.
"Users are able to execute no-look, behind the back passes with 100% accuracy.
- Users can hold the puck to their backhand/forehand and maintain momentum and speed for too many frames while also having top tier agility and balance.
- A.I. defensive coverage in front of the net is, at times, abysmal.
- A.I. offensive awareness in front of the net is, at times, abysmal.
- Puck protect at low speeds is still slightly too OP.
- Sometimes a well-timed poke check in the direction of the intended receiver on a cross-crease attempt results in the poke targeting (and then missing) the incoming puck rather than disrupting the shot and/or substantially decreasing the accuracy of a shot
- In the same scenario (a cross-crease attempt) less skilled players can simply lay down in the passing lane, slide directly in to their goalie, but their goalie still is able to make the save.
- Players are still able to keep control of the puck while intentionally skating directly in to the boards in order to protect their possession. Skating directly in to the boards while holding the puck should result in the puck being knocked loose.
- Users can spam R3 poke - I know because I currently do it. The accuracy of each subsequent poke check should be reduced and eventually head in to penalty territory.
- Interference calls for shoving players in the slot or in front of the goalie. There seems to be an area of the ice where no calls are made, but it's inconsistent at times.
- LT still chaps me. Players still abuse it, particularly at low speeds. It needs to be nerfed.
- Player changing needs to be fine tuned a little more. It's better this year, but I'm still finding player switching inconsistent. Icon-based switching would be ideal. RT+R3 works well for taking control of a player in front of the net, but RT+RS isn't as consistent as I'd like. I'm often flicking my stick to the right (to take control of RW) but it switches me to center. I think it needs to be tuned a little better.
- You can't use the shoot button in the defensive zone anymore to clear the puck because it targets your own net
- Backskating speed needs to be bumped up like 1 or 2 notches. Something just barely noticeable but effective to help quell the forwards' speed through the neutral zone."
I think he's covering up pretty good... If this was addressed, im sure alot of us that argue wouldn’t need to do that.
I do bealive alot of us want the same thing here, but we got a little diffrent perspective and patience about it.
To be fair, @Sega82mega brings something to the table in these forums. I admire his positivity and his willingness to consider different perspectives. On one hand he isn't wrong, KidChewTimeToy did bring a list of things to this discussion. That is legit. I like that. On the other, he lists these things and then in the same thread tells you and others that the same exact things he listed are the users fault and not the game and then, in such a laughable manner, victimizes himself to try and seem righteous. HA.
With that said, I would much rather see someone like @Sega82mega try to do what he is doing than FitBlueToy try to incite argument constantly
No worries, @Sega82mega , I like you and your style. Your attempts at reasonable conversation are appreciated.
@untouchable_BF1 , I think we would all be living a fiction to think everything we say here can or would be implemented. With that said I think there is a lot of credence to the idea that some of the same crap has existed in this game for an entire console generation and it hasnt been addressed. I can see why there would be an exodus. Almost like core ideas are neglected
This is the problem. You can't expect any respect if you only hold that things you complain about as being legit issues.
I dont know what anything between me and kid would have to do with you. Just look another direaction and you will be fine.
I get that 'kid' can be abit ruff sometimes, but that dosent change the fact that he says pretty good stuff about the game.
As do you, lion, but you seem to do it pretty personal sometimes and declare people stupid for not sayin same things as you.
@IceLion68 came here (via his post history) to try and decide if he was going to buy the game and enjoy it. His posts were questions about mechanics. He then has posted several instances where he feels like the game needs improvement. His concerns were pooped on while the exact same ideas/mechanics were shown and petitioned for via his debater. Of course he will respond negatively. This is a two way street. I do not see him coming into well intended threads trying to incite arguments...
There is a difference between personally attacking people and being a straight up troll. Do I think chewtimetoy is a troll? Sometimes. Other times I think he has well intended discussion. With that said, there is absolutely no reason to presume and assume so much about people and they way they play without investigating that concept.
This thread, in specific, was not me complaining the game is trash or I hate losing. It was compiling all kinds of critique from a multitude of mediums from the community in an attempt to get the attention of the people who make the game. I did not go through all of this work to argue with someone who may or may not be lonely or struggling in life. I went through this work to try and sway the balance of the forums. I, like many others, have failed.
Lmaoo we just don’t take things personally and enjoy each other’s banter ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Bring something to the table. Dignify the initial list. Bring your own. Discuss game concepts that need improved. Do not hijack my thread as you are attempting.
Good said, you do know I like you too. And I like this thread you started, but I can also tell your patience with this game is startin to be over. And ofc you must be free to get that out, I know we look at hockey pretty much the same.
Im just hanging in! 😉
Excuse me? I bring a lot to the table. I provide COUNTLESS feedback including entire threads devoted to my issues with the game which includes video evidence.
Far more than simply stating “x is broken” and then personally attacking people who don’t agree with me....
I’ve worked very hard at being less abrasive around here.
I’ve provided hundreds of gifs and feedback surrounding issues with the game.
All of that only to be attacked by you because you simply don’t agree with me.
It’s so disheartening and now I remember why I stayed away for a couple of weeks.
Hopefully the moderation team can handle you - it’s so tiring when a simple differing of opinions turns in to constant personal attacks form you.
I 100% agree, it’s just simple things like defenders not skating to corner or defenders in a trap not leaving their position of the trap for literally zero productive reason which in turn destroys the trap. I said it in another post I think, but problems like this far outweigh a one-timer animation change or skating style when it comes to replicating hockey. We’re actively being given the more condiments when the burger is still still raw lol.
I like your commentary, there’s a few of us here who are like-minded, I’d say don’t give up on these forums. They’re small, but the few who post a lot really loyal to the game and tend to understand hockey much more than Reddit or Twitter where there’s just a plethora of people that bash the game without reason or knowledge of the sport.
At the end of the day, this is just another medium to shout into the void, but I’d like to think the quality of the shouted words is a half-step above here compared to other places lol.
In this thread specifically you have brought nothing to the table other than antagonization. Help me make the game better. Or don't. That is up to you. Until you grow up, I am done talking to you.
Thank you
It's funny though. Offline, I have the game playing decent. A lot of the things that annoy me are things you talk about too. Speed, poor AI positioning and movement, etc. I am enjoying offline. Online I just despise though. All my friends quit too and I am far too old and busy to scout for a new team. Honestly, I wouldnt want to though. Online is a cesspool right now in my opinion