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amxblade
137 posts Member
edited January 9
The absolute filth and toxicity of the online community of this game is incomprehensible, and its all been fostered by EA. It's become a 2 dimensional game of spam spam spam the poke check then race down the ice and ONLY force over the cross crease. Then message your opponent to tell them they suck.

I can honestly say that out of all the online games I play (fps, sports, RPG) this game has the absolute most toxic community I've ever seen.

Congrats EA, you've won another award, just not one I'd be happy about.
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  • Sega82mega
    2642 posts Member
    edited January 9
    Yeah the toxicity is of the roof. There must be something about the stress, the gameplay induce, that makes us all go nuts.

    To gain respect from your opponent, you have to fight fair, and I think there's too many ways to get around that, by playing like a pig, rag the puck, circle back and forth all over the ice, manipulate every possible game mechanics to your own favor.

    And the majority knows exactly how to do that, probably even better then how to play 'real hockey' in this game.

    And with a gameplay were everyone thinks the opponent cheats, there's no respect to be found.

    Best thing that could happen, in every categories, would be a game were your hockey IQ decide to 95% the outcome of the game. A game were true hockey is the only way to go and when you win, your opponent knows you were the better player and when you loose, you know you deserve to loose.

    Fair and square without any chances of being a clown and get a way with it.
  • Agreed. Super toxic community. My biggest issue remains with ppl ragging/playing keep away with the lead. There needs to be an in game report option after the game to report user for ragging, and ea should be able to review the game for proof. Probably a lot of work but seriously when ppl do it it makes me not want to play the game and completely ruins the experience. Luckily I win most of my games but it still happens, even dudes with pay to win teams do it. Like. Tf.
  • monz
    905 posts Member
    It's the reason why it's legal to punch someone in the face while playing IRL! Competitiveness can be ugly sometimes.
  • That's why I only play off line.
  • Ragging is becoming worse and worse because all these little Mary's know EA won't do anything about
  • Sega82mega
    2642 posts Member
    edited January 10
    I remember back in BETA 19, were people didn't really knew yet how to become a pain in the.. And by somehow the games often resemble real life hockey. I have never given and received so many "GG's" as I did then.

    We could even talk after the game about situations from the game, like 'you remember that "cool stuff' that happen in 2nd period... Great move!", "thanks I was lucky"... And so on. There was a humility I haven’t experience in a long time, I miss that.

    But I really do think, for that to come back, there can't be too many ways to 'cheat' your way to victory, people tend to 'hate' that. It gives you the feeling that the win was unfair and it also gives too many "excuses" to why you lost.

    Real hockey skill would bring the humility back to life! ❤️
  • Well worded Sega, that's exactly the way I see it currently. If you're game is simply spam, spam, spam and just constantly circling for the cross ice one timer, to me it's cheating, you're relying on an exploit in the game (one that EA refuses to fix).

    I think this year I've sent one gg message, and it was after a loss because it was a great game of hockey.
  • Sega82mega
    2642 posts Member
    edited January 10
    Yeah thoose great game of hockey can exists all tough they are rare, too rare.

    Bealive it or not, but I had some guys in this (21's)beta that was playing hockey, but after that I havent seen it.

    Almost as I start to wonder if people actually know how to play this game "how you suppose", to get it as much hockey look alike as you can, but I know for a fact, it takes two of you, you cant get it hockey all alone if your opponent dosent want to play that way.

    But thoose times were you match up against a 'hockey minded' player, I dont want to say too much, but I start sayin to myself.. 'oooh I like this guy'.. And if I win or loose isn't importen anymore, I just wanna have that 'hockey rhythm' going, and make it last forever.

    But this rarely happens, 90% try to use the game on the same way as they always do, and that isn't much of hockey in that.

    I hope EA found out a way that both will force everyone to play hockey and at the same time, teach everyone to play hockey.

    This toxicity has to stop, and I wont blame 'the game' for everything in that, we all have a share in it, but I think that 'how you can use/play this game and still win, is the biggest problem for alot of people, take that away, and I think the people will follow after/do the rest.
  • That's why I only play off line.

    Online gaming is just not worth it. People are awful, they play stupid ways, glitch the game constantly, rag, it’s just awful. Just wish they’d make offline more playable by fixing the speed glitch and making the AI a lot better than they currently are. They prioritize their interpretation of “position” way too much. It’s not human and it’s not even close to believable. Humans make mistakes usually be over-committing to the object of the sport, not because they over-committed to an arbitrary spot on the playing surface they believe needs covering.
  • It's gotten bad this year. Last year I was a top 200 player in HUT, now I'm underneath that stuck in Div 4. Majority of my opponents rag it until they get to a 3 v 3 OT or shootout. Try to forecheck the puck carrier and it sticks like glue to their stick. Base card teams also seem to play better, as I have tested this theory yesterday on a secondary account where I beat a 99 overall team with a 71 by a score of 11-3. Worst part is the IP booting on both consoles that shouldn't be happening. It happens in every mode too. Was playing the Leafs gaming tournament today 1 v 1 in versus. Went against a guy who exploited every broken mechanic and was a top player in the world. Sad route this franchise is taking... Even gamechangers are seeing this issue and the discord I was in had a discussion about it, along how bad the servers are for us Northwest users compared to other regions.
  • It's gotten bad this year. Last year I was a top 200 player in HUT, now I'm underneath that stuck in Div 4. Majority of my opponents rag it until they get to a 3 v 3 OT or shootout. Try to forecheck the puck carrier and it sticks like glue to their stick. Base card teams also seem to play better, as I have tested this theory yesterday on a secondary account where I beat a 99 overall team with a 71 by a score of 11-3. Worst part is the IP booting on both consoles that shouldn't be happening. It happens in every mode too. Was playing the Leafs gaming tournament today 1 v 1 in versus. Went against a guy who exploited every broken mechanic and was a top player in the world. Sad route this franchise is taking... Even gamechangers are seeing this issue and the discord I was in had a discussion about it, along how bad the servers are for us Northwest users compared to other regions.

    i know how you feel,i was bad last year without speed meta. i like this year cause i can score more goal vs cpu. i like the squad battle. i was div 8 last year from july to the end and this year i'm div 5
  • EA_Blueberry
    4148 posts EA Community Manager
    monz wrote: »
    It's the reason why it's legal to punch someone in the face while playing IRL! Competitiveness can be ugly sometimes.
    That's why I only play off line.

    Oh don't worry, it can still sometimes feel like you're getting punched in the face by the AI in offline mode with the right sliders. :p
  • EA_Blueberry
    4148 posts EA Community Manager
    Sega82mega wrote: »
    I remember back in BETA 19, were people didn't really knew yet how to become a pain in the.. And by somehow the games often resemble real life hockey. I have never given and received so many "GG's" as I did then.

    We could even talk after the game about situations from the game, like 'you remember that "cool stuff' that happen in 2nd period... Great move!", "thanks I was lucky"... And so on. There was a humility I haven’t experience in a long time, I miss that.

    But I really do think, for that to come back, there can't be too many ways to 'cheat' your way to victory, people tend to 'hate' that. It gives you the feeling that the win was unfair and it also gives too many "excuses" to why you lost.

    Real hockey skill would bring the humility back to life! ❤️

    In some of our other EA games, they have messages that can be sent out at the end of games from a list so you don't have to go out of your way into Xbox/PlayStation chat settings to send it. I hope we continue to see those options in the future.

    GG
    Great game, rematch?
    We should play again sometime. Friend request?
    You're really good

    Just some examples that would be nice to send to each other.
  • Sega82mega wrote: »
    I remember back in BETA 19, were people didn't really knew yet how to become a pain in the.. And by somehow the games often resemble real life hockey. I have never given and received so many "GG's" as I did then.

    We could even talk after the game about situations from the game, like 'you remember that "cool stuff' that happen in 2nd period... Great move!", "thanks I was lucky"... And so on. There was a humility I haven’t experience in a long time, I miss that.

    But I really do think, for that to come back, there can't be too many ways to 'cheat' your way to victory, people tend to 'hate' that. It gives you the feeling that the win was unfair and it also gives too many "excuses" to why you lost.

    Real hockey skill would bring the humility back to life! ❤️

    In some of our other EA games, they have messages that can be sent out at the end of games from a list so you don't have to go out of your way into Xbox/PlayStation chat settings to send it. I hope we continue to see those options in the future.

    GG
    Great game, rematch?
    We should play again sometime. Friend request?
    You're really good

    Just some examples that would be nice to send to each other.

    Yes yes yes!

    I have asked for an easy way after the game to just give a signal, that it was a good game. Like a Pat on the shoulder.

    Even tough we my hate each other when we play, we should be able to thank each other after the game. Would probebly spare us alot of hate.

    And to send messages through the usally way, takes to long time, too many steps.
  • Sega82mega wrote: »
    I remember back in BETA 19, were people didn't really knew yet how to become a pain in the.. And by somehow the games often resemble real life hockey. I have never given and received so many "GG's" as I did then.

    We could even talk after the game about situations from the game, like 'you remember that "cool stuff' that happen in 2nd period... Great move!", "thanks I was lucky"... And so on. There was a humility I haven’t experience in a long time, I miss that.

    But I really do think, for that to come back, there can't be too many ways to 'cheat' your way to victory, people tend to 'hate' that. It gives you the feeling that the win was unfair and it also gives too many "excuses" to why you lost.

    Real hockey skill would bring the humility back to life! ❤️

    In some of our other EA games, they have messages that can be sent out at the end of games from a list so you don't have to go out of your way into Xbox/PlayStation chat settings to send it. I hope we continue to see those options in the future.

    GG
    Great game, rematch?
    We should play again sometime. Friend request?
    You're really good

    Just some examples that would be nice to send to each other.

    It's all well and good that EA is implementing these quick-chat options in other titles with a hope it comes to NHL, but what is being done about players who rag the puck?
  • Sega82mega wrote: »
    I remember back in BETA 19, were people didn't really knew yet how to become a pain in the.. And by somehow the games often resemble real life hockey. I have never given and received so many "GG's" as I did then.

    We could even talk after the game about situations from the game, like 'you remember that "cool stuff' that happen in 2nd period... Great move!", "thanks I was lucky"... And so on. There was a humility I haven’t experience in a long time, I miss that.

    But I really do think, for that to come back, there can't be too many ways to 'cheat' your way to victory, people tend to 'hate' that. It gives you the feeling that the win was unfair and it also gives too many "excuses" to why you lost.

    Real hockey skill would bring the humility back to life! ❤️

    In some of our other EA games, they have messages that can be sent out at the end of games from a list so you don't have to go out of your way into Xbox/PlayStation chat settings to send it. I hope we continue to see those options in the future.

    GG
    Great game, rematch?
    We should play again sometime. Friend request?
    You're really good

    Just some examples that would be nice to send to each other.

    It's all well and good that EA is implementing these quick-chat options in other titles with a hope it comes to NHL, but what is being done about players who rag the puck?

    You will be able choose not to tell them GG.
  • jrago73 wrote: »
    Sega82mega wrote: »
    I remember back in BETA 19, were people didn't really knew yet how to become a pain in the.. And by somehow the games often resemble real life hockey. I have never given and received so many "GG's" as I did then.

    We could even talk after the game about situations from the game, like 'you remember that "cool stuff' that happen in 2nd period... Great move!", "thanks I was lucky"... And so on. There was a humility I haven’t experience in a long time, I miss that.

    But I really do think, for that to come back, there can't be too many ways to 'cheat' your way to victory, people tend to 'hate' that. It gives you the feeling that the win was unfair and it also gives too many "excuses" to why you lost.

    Real hockey skill would bring the humility back to life! ❤️

    In some of our other EA games, they have messages that can be sent out at the end of games from a list so you don't have to go out of your way into Xbox/PlayStation chat settings to send it. I hope we continue to see those options in the future.

    GG
    Great game, rematch?
    We should play again sometime. Friend request?
    You're really good

    Just some examples that would be nice to send to each other.

    It's all well and good that EA is implementing these quick-chat options in other titles with a hope it comes to NHL, but what is being done about players who rag the puck?

    You will be able choose not to tell them GG.

    That’d be the most anti-toxic, anti-rag deterrent they’ve attempted ever tbh...lol
  • I hope we one day get a game were smart forecheck will be the best answer on this rag dudes.

    No mather how good you are, you shouldnt be able to keep the puck in your own zone.

    I must say I haven’t face successful raggers this much in 21, all though they do there best.

    But it's a hard problem, especially if the players good and are using their own zone and bigger part of neutral zone.

    Sometimes I have to pressure them forward to my own zone, by guarding the area behind he's last D.

    But a good player will always be good at killing time, by having the puck to themselves. But the sad part, they don't even try to score...
  • EA_Blueberry
    4148 posts EA Community Manager
    jrago73 wrote: »
    Sega82mega wrote: »
    I remember back in BETA 19, were people didn't really knew yet how to become a pain in the.. And by somehow the games often resemble real life hockey. I have never given and received so many "GG's" as I did then.

    We could even talk after the game about situations from the game, like 'you remember that "cool stuff' that happen in 2nd period... Great move!", "thanks I was lucky"... And so on. There was a humility I haven’t experience in a long time, I miss that.

    But I really do think, for that to come back, there can't be too many ways to 'cheat' your way to victory, people tend to 'hate' that. It gives you the feeling that the win was unfair and it also gives too many "excuses" to why you lost.

    Real hockey skill would bring the humility back to life! ❤️

    In some of our other EA games, they have messages that can be sent out at the end of games from a list so you don't have to go out of your way into Xbox/PlayStation chat settings to send it. I hope we continue to see those options in the future.

    GG
    Great game, rematch?
    We should play again sometime. Friend request?
    You're really good

    Just some examples that would be nice to send to each other.

    It's all well and good that EA is implementing these quick-chat options in other titles with a hope it comes to NHL, but what is being done about players who rag the puck?

    You will be able choose not to tell them GG.

    Not tell them GG?

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