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Looks like Frostbite is coming to NHL 22

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  • Due to the 15 attempted cover-up, the legends marketing fiasco, the same scripted plays from NHL 09 still be used by the computer, and the speed glitch/feature they deny exists, I’m going to have to put a migration year game expectation level at about as low as possible. Wish I could be optimistic lol.

    No but I totally understand how you think here.

    And it's so much better to have low expectations and go from there... Then to fly among the clouds and crash land into the EA office...

    But honestly.. It would surprise me - alot - If 22 wouldn’t be anything else then good. Especially considering to 'all' the problems ignite and this gen has given us.
  • https://fifaforums.easports.com/en/discussion/240918/can-we-talk-about-frostbite

    Okey this was not a positive post. (all though there wasen't any direct talk about frostbite)

    But whats crack me up.

    The tone...in that forum... It's - exactly - the same, almost abit scary...

    "the main issue i have with fifa, it punishes you if you defend manually and rewards high pressure abusers".... NHL?.. Check.

    'ball magnetism"


    "Tackles always push the ball out of bounds or back to opposing players"...

    And in NHL we got our poke checks.

    Seems to be the same problems.. Maybe not that strange - same company. Yet, abit spooky. 😱
  • Sega82mega wrote: »
    https://fifaforums.easports.com/en/discussion/240918/can-we-talk-about-frostbite

    Okey this was not a positive post. (all though there wasen't any direct talk about frostbite)

    But whats crack me up.

    The tone...in that forum... It's - exactly - the same, almost abit scary...

    "the main issue i have with fifa, it punishes you if you defend manually and rewards high pressure abusers".... NHL?.. Check.

    'ball magnetism"


    "Tackles always push the ball out of bounds or back to opposing players"...

    And in NHL we got our poke checks.

    Seems to be the same problems.. Maybe not that strange - same company. Yet, abit spooky. 😱

    I've said it for years that FIFA wasn't any different if you were a regular on their forums. And they have their issues year in and year out. At least every once in awhile we get a developer in here. Over there it's just silence.

  • Sega82mega
    3053 posts Member
    edited February 28
    Follisimo wrote: »
    Sega82mega wrote: »
    https://fifaforums.easports.com/en/discussion/240918/can-we-talk-about-frostbite

    Okey this was not a positive post. (all though there wasen't any direct talk about frostbite)

    But whats crack me up.

    The tone...in that forum... It's - exactly - the same, almost abit scary...

    "the main issue i have with fifa, it punishes you if you defend manually and rewards high pressure abusers".... NHL?.. Check.

    'ball magnetism"


    "Tackles always push the ball out of bounds or back to opposing players"...

    And in NHL we got our poke checks.

    Seems to be the same problems.. Maybe not that strange - same company. Yet, abit spooky. 😱

    I've said it for years that FIFA wasn't any different if you were a regular on their forums. And they have their issues year in and year out. At least every once in awhile we get a developer in here. Over there it's just silence.

    Cant blame the Fifa developers, who care about football ey? 🤷‍♀️

    No just kidding. Maybe too big community to handle. But total silence is never good.

    But I do think Fifa and NHL somehow can be comparable.

    Thats why I find Fifa 17 so interesting for the moment, the year they brought frostbite into the game.

    And the visual effect is quite easy to notice. That gets me excited, of course.
  • Just goes to show how truly awful EA devs are at listening and communicating about the obvious. Must be a job requirement...
  • Just goes to show how truly awful EA devs are at listening and communicating about the obvious. Must be a job requirement...

    Or maybe that game development is a little more complicated than you think ;)
  • IceLion68
    1174 posts Member
    edited March 1
    jrago73 wrote: »


    IceLion- I think I remember you saying you hadn't been on the forums for a long while. While I agree with most of your concerns with the transition the team had mentioned here that they beefed up the team and started preparing for the change to next gen far earlier this time. However...
    .

    LOL it wasnt a "long while" but it was a bit.

    I think I saw that message but IIRC "Next Gen" in the context being used was the move across console generations. Not the conversion to a new game engine.

    *IF* they are both migrating to FrostBite AND moving to Next Gen platforms simultaneously, given the recent history of both of those activities in this and other games, much as I would want them to knock it out of the proverbial park (arena?), if I had to make a prediction of how the first product to come out of that process would fare, I would be leaning heavily towards the "not good" end of the spectrum.

    There is a difference between optimism, and *blind* optimism.

    That said, no one in the history of being wrong will be more happy than I than to be wrong about this.
    Dad. Gamer. Rocker. Geek.
  • IceLion68
    1174 posts Member
    Sega82mega wrote: »
    https://fifaforums.easports.com/en/discussion/240918/can-we-talk-about-frostbite

    Okey this was not a positive post. (all though there wasen't any direct talk about frostbite)

    But whats crack me up.

    The tone...in that forum... It's - exactly - the same, almost abit scary...

    "the main issue i have with fifa, it punishes you if you defend manually and rewards high pressure abusers".... NHL?.. Check.

    'ball magnetism"


    "Tackles always push the ball out of bounds or back to opposing players"...

    And in NHL we got our poke checks.

    Seems to be the same problems.. Maybe not that strange - same company. Yet, abit spooky. 😱

    Sounds vaguely familiar.... LOL
    Dad. Gamer. Rocker. Geek.

  • Or maybe that game development is a little more complicated than you think ;)

    Or maybe that effective communication is not nearly as difficult as you think :wink:
  • IceLion68
    1174 posts Member
    Just goes to show how truly awful EA devs are at listening and communicating about the obvious. Must be a job requirement...

    Or maybe that game development is a little more complicated than you think ;)
    Right? People have zero appreciation for how complex this stuff is. Especially when you get physics engines involved, collision detection etc.

    Dad. Gamer. Rocker. Geek.
  • GrundleDemon333
    92 posts Member
    edited March 1
    Oh I fully appreciate how complicated it is. What I don't get is how poor this team is at communicating about the obvious. If there is good reason in year 2021 for tuning the puck (or ball) to be more like a magnet than a puck, for example, as has been inquired about repeatedly, then by all means let's hear about why that is necessary! Otherwise, you let it fester and we're only left to assume they don't want to explain because the reason isn't very good (e.g., let's favor the puck carrier, rules of physics be damned). If the ongoing deafening silence on the current state of the game is because some people will say negative things afterwards, sorry, I'm not too sympathetic ... unless EA is going to start issuing refunds ... and we know that aint happening.
  • Sega82mega
    3053 posts Member
    IceLion68 wrote: »
    jrago73 wrote: »


    IceLion- I think I remember you saying you hadn't been on the forums for a long while. While I agree with most of your concerns with the transition the team had mentioned here that they beefed up the team and started preparing for the change to next gen far earlier this time. However...
    .

    LOL it wasnt a "long while" but it was a bit.

    I think I saw that message but IIRC "Next Gen" in the context being used was the move across console generations. Not the conversion to a new game engine.

    *IF* they are both migrating to FrostBite AND moving to Next Gen platforms simultaneously, given the recent history of both of those activities in this and other games, much as I would want them to knock it out of the proverbial park (arena?), if I had to make a prediction of how the first product to come out of that process would fare, I would be leaning heavily towards the "not good" end of the spectrum.

    There is a difference between optimism, and *blind* optimism.

    That said, no one in the history of being wrong will be more happy than I than to be wrong about this.

    Hehe you are right.. Or not wrong... Buuuut... I will try to remember this post and remind you when you sit infront of NHL 22 and are having the time of your life... Hehe (big words)... 😬😄
  • IceLion68
    1174 posts Member

    Or maybe that game development is a little more complicated than you think ;)

    Or maybe that effective communication is not nearly as difficult as you think :wink:
    LOL . Can I agree with both of you?
    Dad. Gamer. Rocker. Geek.
  • IceLion68 wrote: »

    Or maybe that game development is a little more complicated than you think ;)

    Or maybe that effective communication is not nearly as difficult as you think :wink:
    LOL . Can I agree with both of you?

    Absolutely!
  • IceLion68
    1174 posts Member
    Sega82mega wrote: »

    Hehe you are right.. Or not wrong... Buuuut... I will try to remember this post and remind you when you sit infront of NHL 22 and are having the time of your life... Hehe (big words)... 😬😄

    At which point I will be ecstatic to admit I underestimated EA and eat my words. But try not to gloat too much, in defense of my future self, it was not the statistically most likely outcome :D
    Dad. Gamer. Rocker. Geek.
  • Sega82mega
    3053 posts Member
    IceLion68 wrote: »
    Sega82mega wrote: »

    Hehe you are right.. Or not wrong... Buuuut... I will try to remember this post and remind you when you sit infront of NHL 22 and are having the time of your life... Hehe (big words)... 😬😄

    At which point I will be ecstatic to admit I underestimated EA and eat my words. But try not to gloat too much, in defense of my future self, it was not the statistically most likely outcome :D

    Haha no worries lion, I won't gloat too much.. After all.. The only thing I want us all to have, is a hockey game thats really fun to play. Even if it's competive.

    👍
  • jrago73
    610 posts Member
    IceLion68 wrote: »
    Sega82mega wrote: »

    Hehe you are right.. Or not wrong... Buuuut... I will try to remember this post and remind you when you sit infront of NHL 22 and are having the time of your life... Hehe (big words)... 😬😄

    At which point I will be ecstatic to admit I underestimated EA and eat my words. But try not to gloat too much, in defense of my future self, it was not the statistically most likely outcome :D

    I'm right there with you on everything. Just wanted to point out that they at least thought ahead and allocated some resources this time. The response in the last generation switch seemed to be blind surprise.
  • Follisimo
    1071 posts Member

    Or maybe that game development is a little more complicated than you think ;)

    Or maybe that effective communication is not nearly as difficult as you think :wink:

    Well we have also had developers come here and explain their reasoning for things and if it doesn't match what the people on the forums want they get angry that it's not being changed to their way. So while developers interacting is a nice thing it also means they just get backlash and no one wants to deal with that. I mean when it comes to some things on these forums I disagree with and the developers also are listening to the other social media and influencers who take some of the communities feedback also.

    Also features and such are planned out way ahead of time for each year and some things possibly get pushed back due to not being ready. It's a thankless job even if they are pouring their hearts into the projects they do.

  • Sega82mega
    3053 posts Member
    jrago73 wrote: »
    IceLion68 wrote: »
    Sega82mega wrote: »

    Hehe you are right.. Or not wrong... Buuuut... I will try to remember this post and remind you when you sit infront of NHL 22 and are having the time of your life... Hehe (big words)... 😬😄

    At which point I will be ecstatic to admit I underestimated EA and eat my words. But try not to gloat too much, in defense of my future self, it was not the statistically most likely outcome :D

    I'm right there with you on everything. Just wanted to point out that they at least thought ahead and allocated some resources this time. The response in the last generation switch seemed to be blind surprise.

    Easy tiger.. Don't give me more hope than I already have!



    😬
  • Follisimo wrote: »

    Or maybe that game development is a little more complicated than you think ;)

    Or maybe that effective communication is not nearly as difficult as you think :wink:

    Well we have also had developers come here and explain their reasoning for things and if it doesn't match what the people on the forums want they get angry that it's not being changed to their way.

    Exactly.
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