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Follisimo
1346 posts Member
edited July 2021
We have talked in other threads about how EA really needs to get their act together when it comes to marketing the NHL series and just today FIFA showed off their Gameplay Deep Dive with video, explanations, changes that are coming.

https://www.ea.com/games/fifa/fifa-22/news/pitch-notes-fifa-22-gameplay-deep-dive

The article is everything I would hope the NHL team could deliver to their fans letting us actually see and hear about the changes made. Give the article a read/look over as it's done quite amazingly. Let me know what you think of FIFA's article and how you feel NHL should do them.


Even the NFL is doing some marketing with Madden.

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  • To be fair, EA NHL does do "deep dives" every year.

    Unfortunately they just aren't that deep.
  • Follisimo
    1346 posts Member
    To be fair, EA NHL does do "deep dives" every year.

    Unfortunately they just aren't that deep.

    We get the kiddie pool instead of the Olympic pools for diving.
  • Follisimo wrote: »
    To be fair, EA NHL does do "deep dives" every year.

    Unfortunately they just aren't that deep.

    We get the kiddie pool instead of the Olympic pools for diving.

    HEY! WE GOTTA START SOMEWHERE! Those kiddie pools ain't cheap!!!
  • "Refreshing as many gameplay areas as possible, based on feedback, in order to create a more authentic and polished FIFA experience for all players.


    Fairness - Improve situations that could have felt frustrating from a gameplay perspective. Our aim is to reward players for performing the right action at the right time. For example, this includes situations like being able to defend the Bridge or a dribble with clever positioning.


    Increase gameplay variety in order to enable a greater number of viable playstyles. We are looking to make the on pitch action more diverse than before, so that there is no single “best way” to play"

    Just give me that.
  • Beauts90
    145 posts Member
    This is how it should be every year while also adding some feedback and interaction. They have done a lot of good improvements with the game the last few years, although I feel that the deep dive for NHL makes it seem like they have it figured out, especially franchise mode features and ai play, but it rarely ever delivers as it is described.
    Not saying the game is horrible by any means, the features described in the deep dive just seem to describe what they intended to do instead of what actually was implemented.
  • Sega82mega
    4308 posts Member
    edited July 2021
    If they manage to find that - no single “best way” to play" - in our NHL - that would be a gamechanger.

    Because I think that is why the gameplay gets to be so static and boring - when you try to defend - the best way to score, repetitive, over and over, game for game.

    I swear to god - If I see one more cross crease.. 🤢🤮😓

    No 'best way' to play - would open up the ice and the creative mind. Sounds like a cool experience.
  • Follisimo
    1346 posts Member
    Beauts90 wrote: »
    This is how it should be every year while also adding some feedback and interaction. They have done a lot of good improvements with the game the last few years, although I feel that the deep dive for NHL makes it seem like they have it figured out, especially franchise mode features and ai play, but it rarely ever delivers as it is described.
    Not saying the game is horrible by any means, the features described in the deep dive just seem to describe what they intended to do instead of what actually was implemented.

    That is one thing the FIFA team doesn't do. They don't bother with the forums or other topic places unless it's to post something they want. But they do make lengthy indepth videos each year usually. They know people have complaints and much like the NHL team they read them but they don't bother responding.

  • August 2nd and still not even a peep of information. It just shows how little they care about this franchise. Were in for a repeat of NHL 15.
  • Every day that goes by - We get one day closer.

    At the same time - don't forget to 'seize the day'.

    Time is valuable.

    😊
  • Follisimo wrote: »
    To be fair, EA NHL does do "deep dives" every year.

    Unfortunately they just aren't that deep.

    We get the kiddie pool instead of the Olympic pools for diving.

    Looked more like a puddle to me...
  • EA_Blueberry
    4836 posts EA Community Manager

    In case you missed it, here is our first Deep Dive video and blog on World of Chel! We look forward to your reactions on all our Deep Dives this season.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LL4Savc2npM


  • Follisimo
    1346 posts Member
    edited August 2021
    In case you missed it, here is our first Deep Dive video and blog on World of Chel! We look forward to your reactions on all our Deep Dives this season.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LL4Savc2npM

    Follisimo wrote: »
    EA_Aljo wrote: »
    Hey, everyone!

    There's going to be an NHL 22 World of Chel deep dive Sunday, August 29th at 12 PM EST.

    Join us to discuss the reveal on the NHL Answers HQ forum!

    Read up on the World of Chel Deep Dive here

    https://youtu.be/LL4Savc2npM

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    The World of Chel Deep Dive blog is available to read up on here: https://forums.ea.com/en/nhl/discussion/273603/nhl-22-world-of-chel-deep-dive/p1?new=1

    Can honestly say you guys are listening on going into details more about what you are delivering and at least for the WoC you listened to feedback quite well while also doing what you think is best for the mode.

    In case you missed it. I gave the praise for delivering. I praised the guys on Twitter also.
  • This was a good video. I’m not an online guy but seems like the game is moving in the right direction online.
  • This was a good video. I’m not an online guy but seems like the game is moving in the right direction online.

    Nice to 'see' you Bf1!

    You going to pick up one copy of the game?
  • Sega82mega wrote: »
    This was a good video. I’m not an online guy but seems like the game is moving in the right direction online.

    Nice to 'see' you Bf1!

    You going to pick up one copy of the game?

    Thanks. Good to be back. Umm Probably not. I’ve spent way too much time making 21 enjoyable for me that it doesn’t really make me want to move on and redo all of it again. I’ll have to play my trial and see, but it the AI changes are rather limited, I’ll probably wait till Christmas or even vault cause that’s the main thing that affects my enjoyment of the game.
  • GramerProfesur
    561 posts Member
    edited August 2021
    In case you missed it, here is our first Deep Dive video and blog on World of Chel! We look forward to your reactions on all our Deep Dives this season.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LL4Savc2npM


    Now can we have a deep dive on why you guys decided to nerf tripping penalties? Who made that call?
  • Follisimo
    1346 posts Member
    edited August 2021
    In case you missed it, here is our first Deep Dive video and blog on World of Chel! We look forward to your reactions on all our Deep Dives this season.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LL4Savc2npM


    Now can we have a deep dive on why you guys decided to nerf tripping penalties? Who made that call?

    You know you gotta define nerf tripping penalties. Like happening too much or not enough or what?

    I've played 9 games and I've gotten 1 tripping call as a defenseman.
  • GramerProfesur
    561 posts Member
    edited September 2021
    Follisimo wrote: »
    In case you missed it, here is our first Deep Dive video and blog on World of Chel! We look forward to your reactions on all our Deep Dives this season.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LL4Savc2npM


    Now can we have a deep dive on why you guys decided to nerf tripping penalties? Who made that call?

    You know you gotta define nerf tripping penalties. Like happening too much or not enough or what?

    I've played 9 games and I've gotten 1 tripping call as a defenseman.

    Sorry, meant it the way you said. Not enough tripping penalties and players just spam RB. I’ve taken a single tripping penalty in probably the same amount of games and it was from full on diving into someone’s knees. Have yet to get a stick on skate or leg tripping penalty.

    I play defense so if im complaining about it… it’s not out of bias lol. It’s awful
  • Sega82mega
    4308 posts Member
    edited September 2021
    Sega82mega wrote: »
    This was a good video. I’m not an online guy but seems like the game is moving in the right direction online.

    Nice to 'see' you Bf1!

    You going to pick up one copy of the game?

    Thanks. Good to be back. Umm Probably not. I’ve spent way too much time making 21 enjoyable for me that it doesn’t really make me want to move on and redo all of it again. I’ll have to play my trial and see, but it the AI changes are rather limited, I’ll probably wait till Christmas or even vault cause that’s the main thing that affects my enjoyment of the game.

    I think the A.I is improved - positioning play will be more importen - then to just run-n'-gun. Running into that behavior will give you more 'open surface' to take advantage of then before - hopefully you get the time you need to slow down the pace abit more to start doing some nice plays.

    But you are not feeling it out in the technical test?

    (good to hear you are back - this board need your knowledge)

    😊👋
  • This was a good video. I’m not an online guy but seems like the game is moving in the right direction online.

    I can confirm that there are a lot of good changes to WoC
    Dad. Gamer. Rocker. Geek.
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