I never found playing against L3s while I was an L1 to be some great fun accomplishment. Let's face it, a large portion of the community doesn't utilize "real hockey" to generate offence. A lot of them resort to exploits or easily repeatable "glitch goals". The majority of which are defendable but simply become more difficult to defend when there's a stat disparity. Especially if you're playing with AI defence which I often am.
You say you get a thrill out of beating players with higher attributes than you which is fine. I prefer to beat players with higher skill than me. And, on top of that, I find it much more easier to tolerate losing to players with higher skill than me rather than just higher attributes.
Exactly...when we all have the same tools to work with, you can just say...wow...that players is good...no second guessing.
I've seen a lot of players that were "good" during the L3 days that just aren't the same without the help of the boosts.
You want to snipe? Pick a sniper? You want to play physical? Pick a power forward. You want to play stay at home D, pick a Defensive dman...you want to fight and tough people up, pick an enforcer...the variety is there...but guess what...your sniper is on a level playing field with the other teams sniper...now it just comes down to who plays better and takes the best shot.
Sorry you don't have a plus 15 on your wrist shot to "help" you score.
The L3 system was ridiculous.
World of Warcraft hockey hahaha.
Ur stupid u completely missed my point I dont want to specialise in a certain aspect of the game.
I always want to be a **** complete player u absolute moron I specifically always played as a 2 way forward or 2 way defensive man when I played because I liked to be bang on with all my attributes not just be very good at one thing and **** at everything else or exactly on average at everything that's not how real life hockey works and you know fine well it doesn't I want to play as an all around complete player and if I'm good at the game I should be able to do all of those aspects of the game to my actual ability of the game then if I am really good it should be reflected with my attributes increasing the more I play and keeping up an average grade over a certain number of games again essentially L3
What I don't understand is why people **** about legend 3 when you have a full **** Year to achieve it are you really telling me you're not capable of achieving an A- grade and 350 games in a full year of not and ur excuse is u work too much then just don't get the game there's no sense in you getting the game if you can't play 350 games in a year
Keep talking about artificial boosts all u want the matter of the fact is playing more only means you understand the game more and what works and what doesn't specific shots that go in everytime a specific unstoppable pass how to glitch goalies that's part of the difference that has **** all to do with actually getting better that's essentially just learning to game exploit cry about artificial boosts but in reality people in real life who train everyday and practice certain things like wrist shots should have artificial boosts or badges in a game why should everyone be able to essentially shoot the same just because they're the same archetype you guys cry out for realism and equality at the same time it makes zero sense why should people who are better have to be as equal a guy as trash players the plus 3,5,7+ don't have to be in the game but attributes and customisation absolutely should it should be fully customisable every other sports game does and surprise surprise every other sports game that people play is better than nhl for a reason that reason being trash archetypes no attributes and no customisation it's as simple as that
Seems like you're kind of defeating your own argument. If people who play more already benefit from understanding the game mechanics better, why would they need higher attributes on top of that? That just unbalances the game further. NBA 2K17 introduced archetypes this year as well. They allow you to upgrade stats but they have caps that basically restrict your role as well.
Mate do you play NBA2k17? I know I do the archetype system is horrible most people don't like it everything gets patched constantly ALSO you use 2k as an archetype statement but forget to mention the artificial boosts through badges aswell as attribute +5 boosts not to mention the majority of players on NBA are either a playmaker or a shot creator now they learned what the overpowered archetype is and they use it to there advantage by speed boosting so using NBA as an example was absolutely horrific also another thing about NBA is you get to customise and create your own player pretty much how you want him to be and can make multiple like up-to 12 guys or something so yet again horrendous comparison
I'm defending my own argument of course I **** am do you want to attack it? Make some sense everything I've said is extremely logical as for you saying about the why get artificial boosts when people already exploit the game? Doesn't take a genius to go onto YouTube and look up the best way to score or easy glitches anyway you guys are missing the point I truly don't give a **** about the artificial boosts at all I'm just staying up for the logic behind them being on the game
My problem is being forced to play a certain way with a specific player I don't want to use
First of all the main problem is the game play obviously but customisation after that is the most important aspect of the game that needs fixed
"Most people"... Who are these people? Forum posters? The same people who complain every year about how THIS IS THE WORST GAME EVER!! They don't speak for the entire gaming population, I can promise you that. I like the archetype system in NBA and I think it injected a little more variety into the character builds as opposed to the previous year when everyone was essentially the same build.
I'm specifically saying I don't want stat boosting and I wasn't using NBA as an example of how I want NHL to be. I was merely saying NBA also deviated from a giant pool of attributes to specialized archetypes so your comments that "every other sports game" has full customization was false. I would be fine with NHL adding more layers of customization as long as it didn't include attributes. That said, it's hockey. It's not really a sport that allows for as much personal flair when it comes to style.
An open bucket of attributes is just an illusion of choice. At the end of the day, people just find out what the most effective stats are and everyone piles those on. The only real difference is some have more then others.
For one NBA has complete customisation so you're wrong you get everything from height weight ability improvement of stats badges which are artificial looks and several positions so again I was correct on my previous statement about other video games
My stats about people preferring L3 or not even L3 simply customisation comes from my friendlist on PS4 only my Canadian friends have NHL now all the Americans literally moved onto FIFA except the occasional one from Boston and Chicago they all left NHL and said they won't go back to it until the fix pro clubs/eashl so I'd say Atleast 80 out of 100 (PS3 at the time) was NHL players on my list I can say maybe 12 of those people have the new NHL and essentially don't play it and I really can't imagine how when I had 80 NHL players and it's now down to 12 or so being much different throughout the whole community of course there will be different percentages but from what I hear when I've asked my friends all want an NHL 14 type of game they say there friends also want the same and it's pretty much a universally wanted change not exactly a fact I understand but based in what I've been told and my knowledge of what people want when speaking to groups of people who want the game people like you are in the minority
The badges are specific to your chosen archetype. Your attribute caps are also specific to your archetype. Your height and weight are restricted by your chosen position. It's definitely not FULL customization although I'll grant it's more than NHL offers. One huge difference you're not mentioning though is that NBA allows you to develop your character entirely in the offline modes. You don't have to play against other players at all to max your toon. Not to mention you can simply pay your way to an 88 rating without playing a single game.
I'm not disputing your personal experience but I still don't believe it speaks for the entire player base or is even representative of it. Me and my 30 year old plus friends find relief in not having to grind out 500 games just to compete on a level playing field with the better teams.
Fair enough on ur NBA statement but it's 100% better than NHL and feels like full customisation even when it's not also as for u NHL statement read my last comment
What I don't understand is why people **** about legend 3 when you have a full **** Year to achieve it are you really telling me you're not capable of achieving an A- grade and 350 games in a full year of not and ur excuse is u work too much then just don't get the game there's no sense in you getting the game if you can't play 350 games in a year
The answer is simple: because they don't want to achieve anything worthwhile. They feel entitled and want things given to them.
So EA gave it to them. Instead of having to work toward getting their L3 card, the cookie-cutter builds gives it to them from the get go. They don't have to spend time allocating attribute points to mold their player into what they want, they just pick from the available choices EA gives them.
It's instant gratification for the LAZY masses that have no inclination to develop skill over time. It's so much easier to complain that it's not fair someone is better than them because they play more and ask EA to level the playing field for them.
In a few years there will be complaints that unlocking all the team and player unlockables takes too long and that it's unfair that a player that played over 1000 games and scored 500 goals can unlock "The Dab" celebration, and Gosh DARNIT! They should be able to "DAB" too if they want to... And then EA will just have everything unlocked from the get go and then what will we be playing for?
Oh right... to play "hockey"... As if this game could even be called that with all the un-hockey things it does.
You shouldn't have to "work" for anything in a online video game. The only work you should do is during the game itself.
I can see it now: Final Fantasy 16 - Game costs 80$. You start at level 100, with the best armour, best weapon and best magic in the game. The game starts at the final boss and you beat him in 5 seconds.
Great game made for entitled little cry babies like you who want everything given to them...
You shouldn't have to "work" for anything in a online video game. The only work you should do is during the game itself.
I can see it now: Final Fantasy 16 - Game costs 80$. You start at level 100, with the best armour, best weapon and best magic in the game. The game starts at the final boss and you beat him in 5 seconds.
Great game made for entitled little cry babies like you who want everything given to them...
It makes no difference as getting L3 is easy within a week of cheesing. So just going back to the allocation of stat points is a waste requiring games. Just say here you are a Legend 3 and put stats how you want. Enjoy
Then just give everyone the same set points to build your individual person. Take out all boosts and customize your "archetype" along with height and weight
You shouldn't have to "work" for anything in a online video game. The only work you should do is during the game itself.
I can see it now: Final Fantasy 16 - Game costs 80$. You start at level 100, with the best armour, best weapon and best magic in the game. The game starts at the final boss and you beat him in 5 seconds.
Great game made for entitled little cry babies like you who want everything given to them...
It makes no difference as getting L3 is easy within a week of cheesing. So just going back to the allocation of stat points is a waste requiring games. Just say here you are a Legend 3 and put stats how you want. Enjoy
Or if EA wants to really make some bank. Buy your Legend 3 player for $25 or do the 350 games and A-
Then just give everyone the same set points to build your individual person. Take out all boosts and customize your "archetype" along with height and weight
Ill take boosts over pick a build still to this day, but whats wrong with just giving a set amount of points with no boosts? Doesnt that literally solve everyones beef to a certain degree or am i missing something
Ill take boosts over pick a build still to this day, but whats wrong with just giving a set amount of points with no boosts? Doesnt that literally solve everyones beef to a certain degree or am i missing something
Ill take boosts over pick a build still to this day, but whats wrong with just giving a set amount of points with no boosts? Doesnt that literally solve everyones beef to a certain degree or am i missing something
This wouldn't be my favorite way of going about it, but if it gives me the ability to customize my player build the way I want to, I'll take it.
They need it to be the way it is or it isnt fun to them. I get that, but i just flat out wont buy the game if it is cookie cutter build hockey next year. I dont find nearly as much enjoyment as i have in past years. Then brings the issue, if majority agrees with what i say, why would they build around the smaller audience? If majority wants it the other way thats great, i just wont partake in the game.
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I've seen a lot of players that were "good" during the L3 days that just aren't the same without the help of the boosts.
Ur stupid u completely missed my point I dont want to specialise in a certain aspect of the game.
I always want to be a **** complete player u absolute moron I specifically always played as a 2 way forward or 2 way defensive man when I played because I liked to be bang on with all my attributes not just be very good at one thing and **** at everything else or exactly on average at everything that's not how real life hockey works and you know fine well it doesn't I want to play as an all around complete player and if I'm good at the game I should be able to do all of those aspects of the game to my actual ability of the game then if I am really good it should be reflected with my attributes increasing the more I play and keeping up an average grade over a certain number of games again essentially L3
What I don't understand is why people **** about legend 3 when you have a full **** Year to achieve it are you really telling me you're not capable of achieving an A- grade and 350 games in a full year of not and ur excuse is u work too much then just don't get the game there's no sense in you getting the game if you can't play 350 games in a year
Fair enough on ur NBA statement but it's 100% better than NHL and feels like full customisation even when it's not also as for u NHL statement read my last comment
The answer is simple: because they don't want to achieve anything worthwhile. They feel entitled and want things given to them.
So EA gave it to them. Instead of having to work toward getting their L3 card, the cookie-cutter builds gives it to them from the get go. They don't have to spend time allocating attribute points to mold their player into what they want, they just pick from the available choices EA gives them.
It's instant gratification for the LAZY masses that have no inclination to develop skill over time. It's so much easier to complain that it's not fair someone is better than them because they play more and ask EA to level the playing field for them.
In a few years there will be complaints that unlocking all the team and player unlockables takes too long and that it's unfair that a player that played over 1000 games and scored 500 goals can unlock "The Dab" celebration, and Gosh DARNIT! They should be able to "DAB" too if they want to... And then EA will just have everything unlocked from the get go and then what will we be playing for?
Oh right... to play "hockey"... As if this game could even be called that with all the un-hockey things it does.
Your opinion. And it is an opinion.
I can see it now: Final Fantasy 16 - Game costs 80$. You start at level 100, with the best armour, best weapon and best magic in the game. The game starts at the final boss and you beat him in 5 seconds.
Great game made for entitled little cry babies like you who want everything given to them...
It makes no difference as getting L3 is easy within a week of cheesing. So just going back to the allocation of stat points is a waste requiring games. Just say here you are a Legend 3 and put stats how you want. Enjoy
Or if EA wants to really make some bank. Buy your Legend 3 player for $25 or do the 350 games and A-
I'd listen to Business Cat on this one.
No. Compromise is for the weak.
This wouldn't be my favorite way of going about it, but if it gives me the ability to customize my player build the way I want to, I'll take it.