Don't expect a fix dude. Like that troll pointed out (more/less), this game is built around casuals and VG/LG league play. It's not an RPG. Either enjoy the watered-down hockey experience that is NHL 17 or play something else.
Seems more and more people are agreeing with me thanks guys lets try to get this game fixed
People are agreeing with wanting the old system back (or at least certain aspects of it back) which people have been doing so since its been gone. So they're not just agreeing with you which you seem to imply.
if you're more interested in player progression than playing competitive sports with friends, why don't you play Be a Pro?
or why don't you individuals who aren't into competitive team sports have your own OTP where if you really want to play online you can play with other people who aren't on set teams?
teams, EASHL, should not be an RPG. it should be a competitive sport.
if what you want is "be a pro online", then maybe you should have a game mode for that.
Can I play BAP with all of my friends? No.
Why can't the old system of attribute customization be competitive? I would think full customization/grind/progression would make the game more "competitive". "Competitive" is different from "fair/balanced".
I don't see a reason why we can't have the old system back and have the game competitive.
It complicates things for 3rd party league gaming sites, makes it easier to produce and there are delusions of e-sportary here.
if you're more interested in player progression than playing competitive sports with friends, why don't you play Be a Pro?
or why don't you individuals who aren't into competitive team sports have your own OTP where if you really want to play online you can play with other people who aren't on set teams?
teams, EASHL, should not be an RPG. it should be a competitive sport.
if what you want is "be a pro online", then maybe you should have a game mode for that.
Can I play BAP with all of my friends? No.
Why can't the old system of attribute customization be competitive? I would think full customization/grind/progression would make the game more "competitive". "Competitive" is different from "fair/balanced".
I don't see a reason why we can't have the old system back and have the game competitive.
It complicates things for 3rd party league gaming sites, makes it easier to produce and there are delusions of e-sportary here.
How so?
Does any sport in real life have all of their players "fair/balanced" with each other?
if you're more interested in player progression than playing competitive sports with friends, why don't you play Be a Pro?
or why don't you individuals who aren't into competitive team sports have your own OTP where if you really want to play online you can play with other people who aren't on set teams?
teams, EASHL, should not be an RPG. it should be a competitive sport.
if what you want is "be a pro online", then maybe you should have a game mode for that.
Can I play BAP with all of my friends? No.
Why can't the old system of attribute customization be competitive? I would think full customization/grind/progression would make the game more "competitive". "Competitive" is different from "fair/balanced".
I don't see a reason why we can't have the old system back and have the game competitive.
It complicates things for 3rd party league gaming sites, makes it easier to produce and there are delusions of e-sportary here.
How so?
Does any sport in real life have all of their players "fair/balanced" with each other?
No and that's what makes them competitive.
yeah, you'd think that....
Being competitive is striving as an individual or group to be better than another individual or group. That includes finding that edge and/or advantage over others. With the customization of our attributes we were able to do that.
Your first two sentences are correct, but the last one should of went something like this...
"With customization of our attributes, we were able to make our skater faster and stronger then other players...which in turn...gave of us an unfair advantage...and actually takes away from the competitivenes because we could rely on our artificially boosted skater to beat people."
if you're more interested in player progression than playing competitive sports with friends, why don't you play Be a Pro?
or why don't you individuals who aren't into competitive team sports have your own OTP where if you really want to play online you can play with other people who aren't on set teams?
teams, EASHL, should not be an RPG. it should be a competitive sport.
if what you want is "be a pro online", then maybe you should have a game mode for that.
Can I play BAP with all of my friends? No.
Why can't the old system of attribute customization be competitive? I would think full customization/grind/progression would make the game more "competitive". "Competitive" is different from "fair/balanced".
I don't see a reason why we can't have the old system back and have the game competitive.
It complicates things for 3rd party league gaming sites, makes it easier to produce and there are delusions of e-sportary here.
How so?
Does any sport in real life have all of their players "fair/balanced" with each other?
No and that's what makes them competitive.
yeah, you'd think that....
Being competitive is striving as an individual or group to be better than another individual or group. That includes finding that edge and/or advantage over others. With the customization of our attributes we were able to do that.
to me, it's really not about finding an edge tho.... we win far more than we lose.
to me, it's the same cookie cutter results, no diversity, nothing to build on.
all they have to do for you guys is give you lobbies and your preset builds..... stuff that already exist. the e-sporters / e-athletes / leaguers already use 3rd party websites to track stats / wins / loses.
How can you guys talk about skates and stuff stating changing it gives a unfair advantage do you guys want a boring stale **** game or do u want a realistic game where everyone is different plays different and has different skates and attributes just ridiculous what most of you seem to be saying that disagree with the old system
Ok ok, I'd be ok with everyone being able to go +3 or -3 in every category...but please...no builds under 5"10...was so sick of playing a team of Danny Devitos every other game.
Like vat bud says, bring back custom attys, just give everyone "legend 3" points to play with right from launch.
People love customizing sheet in video games. No question the majority of the players would prefer custom attributes.
As for people who think that they need progression with artificial boosts to keep playing, you are fooling yourselves. What did you do once you got legend 3? Just stop playing? Obviously not..
Being able to tweak your main player, and the other positions is what it's about. It's not about the grind and progression. Sure, it was something to work for, and no doubt people enjoyed that, but the important aspect was the customizing and not the grind. No one quit playing once they got legend 3.. No one.
i'd be all for customization coming back but within reason.
the "grind" has got to stay gone though. that was just stupid. you can't solve today's problems with solutions for a completely different situation. there's absolutely NO WAY that anyone that's not playing today is not playing because they miss the grind to legend 3. i don't care what anyone says....there's no way that someone that has stopped playing today would come back if they brought back leveling. They have left because of the state of the game and that won't be fixed by bringing back card leveling.
I'd love for EA to do a blind test where you all play with a player and aren't told what build it is, and after 5 games with that player you have to guess what build it was.
I guarantee almost everyone who is so into "customization" would massively fail that test. They'd have no idea.
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false most people are agreeing with me
It complicates things for 3rd party league gaming sites, makes it easier to produce and there are delusions of e-sportary here.
yeah, you'd think that....
"With customization of our attributes, we were able to make our skater faster and stronger then other players...which in turn...gave of us an unfair advantage...and actually takes away from the competitivenes because we could rely on our artificially boosted skater to beat people."
to me, it's really not about finding an edge tho.... we win far more than we lose.
to me, it's the same cookie cutter results, no diversity, nothing to build on.
lack of replay and fun factor.
same for my club and countless others.
all they have to do for you guys is give you lobbies and your preset builds..... stuff that already exist. the e-sporters / e-athletes / leaguers already use 3rd party websites to track stats / wins / loses.
People love customizing sheet in video games. No question the majority of the players would prefer custom attributes.
As for people who think that they need progression with artificial boosts to keep playing, you are fooling yourselves. What did you do once you got legend 3? Just stop playing? Obviously not..
Being able to tweak your main player, and the other positions is what it's about. It's not about the grind and progression. Sure, it was something to work for, and no doubt people enjoyed that, but the important aspect was the customizing and not the grind. No one quit playing once they got legend 3.. No one.
the "grind" has got to stay gone though. that was just stupid. you can't solve today's problems with solutions for a completely different situation. there's absolutely NO WAY that anyone that's not playing today is not playing because they miss the grind to legend 3. i don't care what anyone says....there's no way that someone that has stopped playing today would come back if they brought back leveling. They have left because of the state of the game and that won't be fixed by bringing back card leveling.
I guarantee almost everyone who is so into "customization" would massively fail that test. They'd have no idea.