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Fix BAP before you try and make another game.

Ysil69
26 posts Member
edited May 2017
Be a Pro is such a mess. Can't believe you guys accepted that as finished product. Pathetic.

First off, bad line defense is the stupidest thing to penalize someone for. Not my fault your garbage AI doesn't know hockey positioning. That same garbage AI that tries to spin at the goal post and puts the puck in their own net. The AI is horrible.

The discipline stat on be a pro is ****. I try to make clean checks and stick lifts. Stick lift is impossible to do. Doing it when the prompt comes up will get you a slashing penalty everytime. If you try when they're coming straight at you then they just turn at the last second and bam, slashing. Then you get a penalty which is 10% gone from team play right off the bat. **** 10%. Biggest drop in the game from one action, and nothing you do in that game will bring your discipline back up. You end up going into a discipline-penalty spiral. Whoever thought that idea was good is ****.

And then the fighting. Im the top scorer in the NHL, and I can't refuse a fight?? Who the hell's idea was that? I do my job and get a big clean hit. Forced fight, I'm out for 5. I once got ejected from a game for 3 big hits leading to forced fights. Just stupid. Oh and take out the damn insta lose take downs on the fights. This is hockey not the MMA.

Blocking shorts and passes. I put myself in the passing/shooting lane all the time with vision control on, but pucks go right through me. Is this tied to a stat? I wouldn't know because the manuals trash and you guys don't explain ****.

I can't request a trade or even see who's on what teams roster. The options aside from play sre severally limited.

This mode needs serious work.

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  • I'm sorry but EASHL and Franchise Mode need serious overhauling before they even touch BAP.

  • Ysil69
    26 posts Member
    Then overhaul all 3 before they make another game
  • kopitarfan1997
    6 posts Member
    edited May 2017
    i definitely agree with you here.. BAP also needs more of a background to it like request a trade or media interviews, endorsements, those types of things
    Ysil69 wrote: »
    Be a Pro is such a mess. Can't believe you guys accepted that as finished product. Pathetic.

    First off, bad line defense is the **** thing to penalize someone for. Not my fault your garbage AI doesn't know hockey positioning. That same garbage AI that tries to spin at the goal post and puts the puck in their own net. The AI is horrible.

    The discipline stat on be a pro is ****. I try to make clean checks and stick lifts. Stick lift is impossible to do. Doing it when the prompt comes up will get you a slashing penalty everytime. If you try when they're coming straight at you then they just turn at the last second and bam, slashing. Then you get a penalty which is 10% gone from team play right off the bat. **** 10%. Biggest drop in the game from one action, and nothing you do in that game will bring your discipline back up. You end up going into a discipline-penalty spiral. Whoever thought that idea was good is ****.

    And then the fighting. Im the top scorer in the NHL, and I can't refuse a fight?? Who the ****'s idea was that? I do my job and get a big clean hit. Forced fight, I'm out for 5. I once got ejected from a game for 3 big hits leading to forced fights. Just stupid. Oh and take out the **** insta lose take downs on the fights. This is hockey not the MMA.

    Blocking shorts and passes. I put myself in the passing/shooting lane all the time with vision control on, but pucks go right through me. Is this tied to a stat? I wouldn't know because the manuals trash and you guys don't explain ****.

    I can't request a trade or even see who's on what teams roster. The options aside from play sre severally limited.

    This mode needs serious work.

  • Ysil69 wrote: »
    Then overhaul all 3 before they make another game

    Unfortunately, that's not going to happen. What they first need to go is get the game play up to par. Once they finally accomplish that, upgrade the servers, then they should start with these modes that limited people play. Sorry but BAP is after EASHL, HUT, Online VS, Franchise Mode
  • joefitz22
    643 posts Member
    Ysil69 wrote: »
    Then overhaul all 3 before they make another game

    Unfortunately, that's not going to happen. What they first need to go is get the game play up to par. Once they finally accomplish that, upgrade the servers, then they should start with these modes that limited people play. Sorry but BAP is after EASHL, HUT, Online VS, Franchise Mode

    EXACTLY!! You gotta make sure that old rusted out Classic Muscle car is going to run before you put a brand new paint job on it!
  • Don't even get me started on what a complete mess playing goalie BaP is... You'll be lucky to not get sent down as a 99 overall goalie, much less be the starter.
  • Don't even get me started on what a complete mess playing goalie BaP is... You'll be lucky to not get sent down as a 99 overall goalie, much less be the starter.

    Stuff like this is why they should scrap the mode entirely, and focus on the important things.
  • Don't even get me started on what a complete mess playing goalie BaP is... You'll be lucky to not get sent down as a 99 overall goalie, much less be the starter.

    Stuff like this is why they should scrap the mode entirely, and focus on the important things.

    Bingo!! I'm sorry I played BAP and BAGM back in the 80s and 90s (there was no Internet or ONLINE Gaming so you had NO CHOICE but to play against AI). Not knocking the mode per say, I spent countless hours as a tween/teen/early 20s playing vs AI in the form of NES Ice Hockey, Blades of Steel, EA NHL, etc but again that was Back in the Day in the 80s and 90s. At this point EA bothering to work on BAP is as important as EA working on NHL Moments Live. Yes I know it's just my measly 2 cents but it's how I feel. It's 2017 EMBRACE Online!
  • joefitz22 wrote: »
    Don't even get me started on what a complete mess playing goalie BaP is... You'll be lucky to not get sent down as a 99 overall goalie, much less be the starter.

    Stuff like this is why they should scrap the mode entirely, and focus on the important things.

    Bingo!! I'm sorry I played BAP and BAGM back in the 80s and 90s (there was no Internet or ONLINE Gaming so you had NO CHOICE but to play against AI). Not knocking the mode per say, I spent countless hours as a tween/teen/early 20s playing vs AI in the form of NES Ice Hockey, Blades of Steel, EA NHL, etc but again that was Back in the Day in the 80s and 90s. At this point EA bothering to work on BAP is as important as EA working on NHL Moments Live. Yes I know it's just my measly 2 cents but it's how I feel. It's 2017 EMBRACE Online!

    I still play offline, Franchise Mode and that's really it. I play that when I can't deal with EASHL (not getting good teams in drop-in, club isn't on, or in a slump). That game mode needs more overhauling over BAP. And still, I'd put Franchise Mode behind EASHL by a large margin
  • joefitz22 wrote: »
    Don't even get me started on what a complete mess playing goalie BaP is... You'll be lucky to not get sent down as a 99 overall goalie, much less be the starter.

    Stuff like this is why they should scrap the mode entirely, and focus on the important things.

    Bingo!! I'm sorry I played BAP and BAGM back in the 80s and 90s (there was no Internet or ONLINE Gaming so you had NO CHOICE but to play against AI). Not knocking the mode per say, I spent countless hours as a tween/teen/early 20s playing vs AI in the form of NES Ice Hockey, Blades of Steel, EA NHL, etc but again that was Back in the Day in the 80s and 90s. At this point EA bothering to work on BAP is as important as EA working on NHL Moments Live. Yes I know it's just my measly 2 cents but it's how I feel. It's 2017 EMBRACE Online!

    I still play offline, Franchise Mode and that's really it. I play that when I can't deal with EASHL (not getting good teams in drop-in, club isn't on, or in a slump). That game mode needs more overhauling over BAP. And still, I'd put Franchise Mode behind EASHL by a large margin

    No doubt. The NHL Franchise as a whole needs to be overhauled but it's become comical with all the problems this game has. I just see it as it's 2017 and at 44yrs old, I am more inclined to play ONLINE (even with all those problems) simply because I already spent my youth in the 80s and 90s playing against mindless AI players. Yes like you I got frustrated with Online (plethora of reasons) and I Tried to go offline/mindless AI players BUT I mean C'mon:

    BAP - I make the Pens out of training camp (0G 0A 8PIMS) and Evgeni Malkin (not injured) is sent to WBS. NOT ONLY is he in WBS but he is the #2 Center behind Joe Vitale. NO SANE GM would ever ....EVER make that roster move

    BAP:LTL - I get injured in the 1st game of a Home and Home with CBJ and don't play the 2nd game (miss 5 games total). Interview Question after 2nd game: You were a turnover machine tonight....wait What?? I didn't play in the 2nd game, was injured for 5 games (simmed through my injury)...how the F*** was I a turnover machine in the 2nd game of CBJ??

    BAP:LTL - We lose to Montreal 2-0. Interview Question after the game: Hard fought game but you couldn't pull it off in OT, how does that ....wait What?? We lost 2-0 in REGULATION...how the F*** did the game go to OT...did I miss something here??
  • Ysil69
    26 posts Member
    I can't play a single player mode while embracing online play? I have plenty of games I play online. I like to chill out on the pvp competition every now and then. If they don't polish the single player stuff, I myself won't be picking up another EA NHL game.

    Everyone always talks about how this game doesn't have a big enough market to do this or that, well the problem is they're steadily losing players. And they're ignoring a large portion of their market by only prioritizing online play. This is **** EA. Pretty sure they can afford to toss some teams at this game, and bring it up to date just one year.
  • Ysil69 wrote: »
    I can't play a single player mode while embracing online play? I have plenty of games I play online. I like to chill out on the pvp competition every now and then. If they don't polish the single player stuff, I myself won't be picking up another EA NHL game.

    Everyone always talks about how this game doesn't have a big enough market to do this or that, well the problem is they're steadily losing players. And they're ignoring a large portion of their market by only prioritizing online play. This is **** EA. Pretty sure they can afford to toss some teams at this game, and bring it up to date just one year.

    They do not intend to bring in anyone to help out this poor franchise. Why would they? No matter what they put out, people still buy it. People still invest in HUT even though it is one of the dumbest things to do.
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    109 posts Member
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  • Sgt_Kelso
    1325 posts Member
    Well if AI really is improved like the above linked story claims that would help BAP too? In fact all the modes... But I am not holding my breath.
  • Even if the AI is improved, BAP is apparently still going to be the same boring grind. Freakin' ridiculous. Even if they switch to Frostbite next year, I still don't have a whole lot of hope for BAP. I just watched an E3 segment about all the work EA put into the story mode in Madden. They even hired a film director and used these incredible high-tech cameras, etc. There is no way in H3ll that they will invest those kind of resources in an NHL game. The NHL series is their red-headed step child.
  • b24hhh
    19 posts Member
    I think that they should first work on the gameplay. BaP is a grind I give you that, but some of us don't play any other mode so much. If you get gameplay working, BaP and every other mode will be much better.
  • Axel_Owretchsin
    296 posts Member
    edited June 2017
    Request trade is mandatory in my opinion, and even though you're not playing as the coach, we should be able to change gameplans, PP setups, ect. And hey, here's a crazy idea, how about being able to view other teams' rosters, lines on main menu? We should have complete access like in Franchise. EA doesn't even record our blocked shots stat lol. Ugh what a complete farce.
  • Ysil69
    26 posts Member
    b24hhh wrote: »
    I think that they should first work on the gameplay. BaP is a grind I give you that, but some of us don't play any other mode so much. If you get gameplay working, BaP and every other mode will be much better.

    I agree completely. If they can solve the gameplay issues, especially the very stupid AI, it will save a lot of modes in a single swoop. Then they can start adding the extra flares.

    I'd give my left nut just to have the coach TELL ME THE GAMEPLANS. I'm sure somewhere in the programming each team has a strategy setup. But I'm not privy to such information. Many times I'll be taking the puck up and I must be doing it wrong, because the AI will swerve and stop RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME on the blue line. Nothing like your own team stopping your zone entry. Or when I go to skate the blue line as forward to pull the D up and my defense men decides he'd work best as a pick to force me out and over the blue or into the opposing defender...

    Again, that could either be me not seeing the game plans, or the crappy AI. Only time will tell.
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