Again, instead of instantly trying to blame the game for everything that doesn't go your way or everything that is not yet fully realistic, take some accountability, blame yourself. It'll only make you better.
Same thing as cogs clip, loop this play inch for inch and there are probably multiple ways you could defend that and be successful.
I watched the clip once and I immediately thought that you could have chopped the puck down ice which would have avoided that goal.
Don't look at things like this and say, 'wow this game **** it's so unrealistic, I should have had that'.. It's only going to make you mad, make you play worse, cost you money because you threw your controller
Look at plays like this and say, '**** that was the wrong play, I should have chopped it'. This mindset will only make you better.
I'm not trying to defend the game or say that everything is good about it or that you should never bring things up that are bad, etc. Until specific issues improve, the game is what it is, you have to deal with it.
Yes there are some things that are out of our control (pucks going through goalies, things like that). But be accountable when you can and stop with the mentality of blaming the game. That mentality is never ever going to help you.
I blame the game when it doesn't aim where I tell it to. I didn't tell it to hit up and left, I told him to hit up and right, and instead he bugs out and allows an easy chance on net. But yeah, don't blame the game. I could have had a great opportunity the other direction, however sure, just let 'er through because the bubble effect just randomly occurs.
If I was aiming that way, then yeah, by all means, my bad. But when the game **** up, I don't blame me because I should have predicted it to **** up. That's just **** stupid.
In fact, taking the body is the safe play on that rush. Absolutely. That's the sad part. But no, **** puck pick up animation I should have anticipated happening. Definitely.
It's literally comparable to a shot going through a goalie's pad, and then you'd be all "Well why'd you let him shoot from there? You know that's a possibility of happening because these games just aren't perfect."
Hindsight is 20/20 after something happens in this game. I wish we could all predict the future and just know when the game is going to screw us over for making the right plays half the time.
Hindsight is 20/20 after something happens in this game. I wish we could all predict the future and just know when the game is going to screw us over for making the right plays half the time.
I hear ya. Just think... it could be worse. You could be a goalie. Now there's a $hitshow.
Hindsight is 20/20 after something happens in this game. I wish we could all predict the future and just know when the game is going to screw us over for making the right plays half the time.
I hear ya. Just think... it could be worse. You could be a goalie. Now there's a $hitshow.
Hindsight is 20/20 after something happens in this game. I wish we could all predict the future and just know when the game is going to screw us over for making the right plays half the time.
I hear ya. Just think... it could be worse. You could be a goalie. Now there's a $hitshow.
Again, instead of instantly trying to blame the game for everything that doesn't go your way or everything that is not yet fully realistic, take some accountability, blame yourself. It'll only make you better.
Same thing as cogs clip, loop this play inch for inch and there are probably multiple ways you could defend that and be successful.
I watched the clip once and I immediately thought that you could have chopped the puck down ice which would have avoided that goal.
Don't look at things like this and say, 'wow this game **** it's so unrealistic, I should have had that'.. It's only going to make you mad, make you play worse, cost you money because you threw your controller
Look at plays like this and say, '**** that was the wrong play, I should have chopped it'. This mindset will only make you better.
I'm not trying to defend the game or say that everything is good about it or that you should never bring things up that are bad, etc. Until specific issues improve, the game is what it is, you have to deal with it.
Yes there are some things that are out of our control (pucks going through goalies, things like that). But be accountable when you can and stop with the mentality of blaming the game. That mentality is never ever going to help you.
I just want to add a few things to this. Blaming the game for junk like this IS legitimate. You could always say you could have made a different/better play, but who's to say the game wouldn't have found a way to blunder that too.
So the guy missed a body check on the opponent trying to skate the puck in the zone. Even though he totally missed body contact on the opponent his body was still a solid object SUPPOSEDLY capable of getting in the way of things.
Not only does the skater with the puck slide the puck through his skates, but he also swings his stick right through his legs like they are not even there, and because of that he is able to skate with the puck like there was NO interference whatsoever. There was no tripping penalty for sweeping the legs...NOTHING.
So one of two things happened here. Either the game code doesn't allow things to be solid ALL of the time like they are supposed to, or the game just simply decided by a dice-roll or RNG that this skater will have a clean break into the zone. This is only one example of things that happen "just because" in this game.
But EA wants the ultimate realistic sim-style game, right?? I'll believe that MAYBE when I stop seeing videos like this being posted all the time.
I mean, there most certainly is dice roll rng in these games in certain situations, sports games are worse due to all the attributes. You cant get away from that, or you really are all the same player like rocket league cars.
Again, instead of instantly trying to blame the game for everything that doesn't go your way or everything that is not yet fully realistic, take some accountability, blame yourself. It'll only make you better.
Same thing as cogs clip, loop this play inch for inch and there are probably multiple ways you could defend that and be successful.
I watched the clip once and I immediately thought that you could have chopped the puck down ice which would have avoided that goal.
Don't look at things like this and say, 'wow this game **** it's so unrealistic, I should have had that'.. It's only going to make you mad, make you play worse, cost you money because you threw your controller
Look at plays like this and say, '**** that was the wrong play, I should have chopped it'. This mindset will only make you better.
I'm not trying to defend the game or say that everything is good about it or that you should never bring things up that are bad, etc. Until specific issues improve, the game is what it is, you have to deal with it.
Yes there are some things that are out of our control (pucks going through goalies, things like that). But be accountable when you can and stop with the mentality of blaming the game. That mentality is never ever going to help you.
I just want to add a few things to this. Blaming the game for junk like this IS legitimate. You could always say you could have made a different/better play, but who's to say the game wouldn't have found a way to blunder that too.
So the guy missed a body check on the opponent trying to skate the puck in the zone. Even though he totally missed body contact on the opponent his body was still a solid object SUPPOSEDLY capable of getting in the way of things.
Not only does the skater with the puck slide the puck through his skates, but he also swings his stick right through his legs like they are not even there, and because of that he is able to skate with the puck like there was NO interference whatsoever. There was no tripping penalty for sweeping the legs...NOTHING.
The puck banked off the boards and hit nothing until the guy picked it up after he poked it by. Wasn't really a sweep at the legs either but you could argue that the stick could/should have been jammed between them causing a penalty.
Could also argue that same scenario in real life the guy could have let the 1 arm still holding his stick go loose so his stick would have been swept behind him during the contact while still being able to hold on to it and then carried on his way. See this lots in my rec league but there is no animation for it in this game.
I tried VS yesterday, and this is the reason why I stopped playing it. Garbage like this.
I get your frustration, but this is a good play by the forward and this happens in REAL hockey. All the players (and fans) for the scoring team would commend the players for a spectacular play (tipping the puck to himself then making a great pass), while all the players (fans) for the opposing team would be saying "are you F'ing kidding me?". BUT, it happens. That's hockey.
Well considering the poke check **** in this game I think he did a pretty good job eh bud?
That's just the thing, knowing that the poke checking is horrible (at best) in this game, why even try to make a play like that?
For the Thousandth time: defense is about CONTAINING the attack, not COUNTERING. He tried to be a Hero, thinking he could strip the puck away and counter attack in one fell swoop. He failed.
I'd say lesson learned, but he probably learned nothing... Like 98% of the people that see this play and blame the game instead of the user for a boneheaded decision.
You would hate to see me play in online vs and eashl then . I counter attack ALL THE TIME and am aggressive .
Keep playing your boring conservative style . you prob the same dude who has S.e.x. in the same boring missionary position too all the time .
I counter attack, I'm very successful . ha ha .
Cool. I'm sincerely glad you have success with it. All I'm gonna say is when it doesn't work out like in the OP's clip you should only have yourself to blame for the aggressive decision you made. Own it rather than placing blame elsewhere.
Nobody's saying you need to be a conservative defenceman. Just understand how the game works and sometimes being aggressive isn't the best option. Sometimes it most definitely is.
You must have me confused with OP . I didn't make the post or start this discussion . I am just in agreement that I would have played the scenario very similar .
In online vs. If I am going up a great puck control winger i know to play stupid . aka just backskate and let incidental contact play out and let the winger lose it in my skates . same for eashl if someone picks playmaker or dangler build .
I've read all your responses in this thread . I thunj most of them are jokes but the most offensive is when you said you were done talking in thread and continue to talk . be a man of your word .
This game is full of problems and to put blame on user error Becuase when certain scenarios play out (I.e. whiffing on one timers , trash tps, trash servers , inconsistent rewarding program , trash bubbles etc ) we actually have to go against conventional wisdom .
I know you touched on this issue but you continue to say user error . its a joke bud.
I'm not going to argue or discuss this further with you . watch and learn how I actually keep my word
If you don't think it is a tad risky to skate up aginst and away from an attacker as the last man back, tryin to swoop the puck as you go by, please raise your hand.....
OK, can we then discuss whether or not a perfectly aimed and timed poke check should connect or not?
If you don't think it is a tad risky to skate up aginst and away from an attacker as the last man back, tryin to swoop the puck as you go by, please raise your hand.....
OK, can we then discuss whether or not a perfectly aimed and timed poke check should connect or not?
Yea ? What about the other side of the coin bud ?
If you don't think it's a tad risky as a winger to make not attempt to protect the puck and actually turn into the the defender with the puck raise your hand .
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I blame the game when it doesn't aim where I tell it to. I didn't tell it to hit up and left, I told him to hit up and right, and instead he bugs out and allows an easy chance on net. But yeah, don't blame the game. I could have had a great opportunity the other direction, however sure, just let 'er through because the bubble effect just randomly occurs.
If I was aiming that way, then yeah, by all means, my bad. But when the game **** up, I don't blame me because I should have predicted it to **** up. That's just **** stupid.
I hear ya. Just think... it could be worse. You could be a goalie. Now there's a $hitshow.
He is...
LOL. Doh!
I just want to add a few things to this. Blaming the game for junk like this IS legitimate. You could always say you could have made a different/better play, but who's to say the game wouldn't have found a way to blunder that too.
So the guy missed a body check on the opponent trying to skate the puck in the zone. Even though he totally missed body contact on the opponent his body was still a solid object SUPPOSEDLY capable of getting in the way of things.
Not only does the skater with the puck slide the puck through his skates, but he also swings his stick right through his legs like they are not even there, and because of that he is able to skate with the puck like there was NO interference whatsoever. There was no tripping penalty for sweeping the legs...NOTHING.
So one of two things happened here. Either the game code doesn't allow things to be solid ALL of the time like they are supposed to, or the game just simply decided by a dice-roll or RNG that this skater will have a clean break into the zone. This is only one example of things that happen "just because" in this game.
But EA wants the ultimate realistic sim-style game, right?? I'll believe that MAYBE when I stop seeing videos like this being posted all the time.
The puck banked off the boards and hit nothing until the guy picked it up after he poked it by. Wasn't really a sweep at the legs either but you could argue that the stick could/should have been jammed between them causing a penalty.
Could also argue that same scenario in real life the guy could have let the 1 arm still holding his stick go loose so his stick would have been swept behind him during the contact while still being able to hold on to it and then carried on his way. See this lots in my rec league but there is no animation for it in this game.
Well considering the poke check sucks in this game I think he did a pretty good job eh bud?
That's just the thing, knowing that the poke checking is horrible (at best) in this game, why even try to make a play like that?
For the Thousandth time: defense is about CONTAINING the attack, not COUNTERING. He tried to be a Hero, thinking he could strip the puck away and counter attack in one fell swoop. He failed.
I'd say lesson learned, but he probably learned nothing... Like 98% of the people that see this play and blame the game instead of the user for a boneheaded decision.
You would hate to see me play in online vs and eashl then . I counter attack ALL THE TIME and am aggressive .
Keep playing your boring conservative style . you prob the same dude who has S.e.x. in the same boring missionary position too all the time .
I counter attack, I'm very successful . ha ha .
- drop in scrub head hunter that gets burned all the time and wants a backwards skating turbo button
Cool. I'm sincerely glad you have success with it. All I'm gonna say is when it doesn't work out like in the OP's clip you should only have yourself to blame for the aggressive decision you made. Own it rather than placing blame elsewhere.
Nobody's saying you need to be a conservative defenceman. Just understand how the game works and sometimes being aggressive isn't the best option. Sometimes it most definitely is.
You must have me confused with OP . I didn't make the post or start this discussion . I am just in agreement that I would have played the scenario very similar .
In online vs. If I am going up a great puck control winger i know to play stupid . aka just backskate and let incidental contact play out and let the winger lose it in my skates . same for eashl if someone picks playmaker or dangler build .
I've read all your responses in this thread . I thunj most of them are jokes but the most offensive is when you said you were done talking in thread and continue to talk . be a man of your word .
This game is full of problems and to put blame on user error Becuase when certain scenarios play out (I.e. whiffing on one timers , trash tps, trash servers , inconsistent rewarding program , trash bubbles etc ) we actually have to go against conventional wisdom .
I know you touched on this issue but you continue to say user error . its a joke bud.
I'm not going to argue or discuss this further with you . watch and learn how I actually keep my word
OK, can we then discuss whether or not a perfectly aimed and timed poke check should connect or not?
Yea ? What about the other side of the coin bud ?
If you don't think it's a tad risky as a winger to make not attempt to protect the puck and actually turn into the the defender with the puck raise your hand .
#imtoosmartforyou