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stevey1219
36 posts Member
edited October 2016
I recently made a thread on goalie movement that got quite a few responses so I thought I'd make one that we can all post clips of bad save animations so we can discuss why they are happening and how EA can improve them. I have 3 clips here from yesterday I took quickly of 3 different issues with some of the save animations in the game plus one funny clip for your amusement.

1. imgur.com/EN5yLJf This first one is the easiest to argue against as I am caught deep expecting the dump around the boards. I am though still at the correct angle for this weak wrist shot with no traffic, the problem with this goal I have is that as you can see my goalie moves his blocker in towards him and away from where the puck is going instead of just keeping it out for the simple save.

2. imgur.com/GV2w0RX Here is an example of what I have seen a few people complain about before that doesn't happen all that often but is frustrating when it does. As you can see when I rotate the camera I have set my feet and position in the crease right before he begins the shot animation. As I go butterfly however my goalie auto moves as he is making the save animation with no input by me. This causes my goalie to move out of the way of where the puck is going. This should never happen where something out of my control as a goalie stops me from making a save I should have made.

3.imgur.com/HqvAyw2 This last one is one where I am in perfect position but it squeaks through for whatever reason. While this is realistic that some bad goals get through, as the game stands right now offense is given way to much and is way to easy to justify why weak goals like this (when in proper position) should be going in.

Lastly here is a funny clip human goalie getting stuck in a desperation save while being rammed out of the crease by my teammate with no goalie interference. imgur.com/n3GUJ7n

EDIT: here is some new ones Ive got.
http://imgur.com/kL3ifdm
http://imgur.com/yg65vYf
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  • git good. learn to adapt to the new goalie mechanics. this year goalie mode requires skillz. kek.
  • jonlolol
    151 posts Game Changer
    edited October 2016
    Yeah those are pretty frustrating and that last one is LOL worthy.

    @EA_NHLDevs

  • Good post and good thread Steve.

    Thanks! Just trying to get some discussion going.
  • strategg101
    823 posts Member
    edited October 2016
    :lol: first time I have seen something like the last one.

    Would definately like to see more goalie interference calls. If the goalie is hit incidental or not by an opposing player it should be called. At least call a penalty if the goal is disallowed because of goalie interference. Alot of time is wasted by the team with the puck, when the play should be dead as soon as the goalie is knocked around.
  • VeNOM2099
    3152 posts Member
    edited October 2016
    *sigh*... I just can't keep quiet when I see things like this happen almost every game.

    http://xboxclips.com/VeNOM2O99/ce4db013-9cc3-463b-8506-50aadd55da99

    Worst part is I was shutting the other team out, and then this happened:

    http://xboxclips.com/VeNOM2O99/9b22bb40-aff7-4c2f-9f01-5a828bf2dd5e

    And then the whole thing snow balled from there. It's sad, because I really like the Goalie mode in 17 (I think I've said this over and over). The game is in serious need of a patch/tuner and it can't come soon enough.

  • That last clip......just wow....be proud EA..be proud....
  • That's what they want. It's all about scoring & keeping the forwards happy. It's been this way for years and it just gets worse, every year to where human goalie is the worst it's ever been. It's just....old
  • These clips all came from the same game.

    1. You could say this goalie may have been screened, but that does not give any reason to move out of the way for a shot from the point. http://xboxclips.com/CH1l1X/e06a5de5-bc41-4a02-a278-4065911cd318

    2. Same as the first one basically, but against me now. http://xboxclips.com/CH1l1X/2bc3538a-501e-4850-8a9a-c17f8a967503

    3. I have no words for this one. Just watch. http://xboxclips.com/CH1l1X/749124aa-364c-4474-a6b0-97f971b30982
  • VeNOM2099 wrote: »
    *sigh*... I just can't keep quiet when I see things like this happen almost every game.

    http://xboxclips.com/VeNOM2O99/ce4db013-9cc3-463b-8506-50aadd55da99

    Worst part is I was shutting the other team out, and then this happened:

    http://xboxclips.com/VeNOM2O99/9b22bb40-aff7-4c2f-9f01-5a828bf2dd5e

    And then the whole thing snow balled from there. It's sad, because I really like the Goalie mode in 17 (I think I've said this over and over). The game is in serious need of a patch/tuner and it can't come soon enough.

    Well a gamechanger actually said it takes "skill" now to be an "elite" goalie and that in 17 you actually have to know how to play as the game won't do everything for you as it did in 16.

    He also said to stop crying and adapt.

    There you have it.
  • My favorite part is where your goalie moves out of the way of a puck you were perfectly in position to save...

    That and hitting the inside of my blocker and in, sliding underneath the pad when in butterfly, getting stuck in the butterfly or on the post, getting blatantly interfered with and the goal still stands if I'm not pushed out of the crease......

    Oh wait. That's just not even half of the problems goalies have in this game.
  • brettbarrett0987
    85 posts Member
    edited October 2016
    My favorite part is where your goalie moves out of the way of a puck you were perfectly in position to save...

    That and hitting the inside of my blocker and in, sliding underneath the pad when in butterfly, getting stuck in the butterfly or on the post, getting blatantly interfered with and the goal still stands if I'm not pushed out of the crease......

    Oh wait. That's just not even half of the problems goalies have in this game.


    ...and they said goalies will move their body towards the puck to stop some shots.....new animations they said....

  • VeNOM2099 wrote: »
    *sigh*... I just can't keep quiet when I see things like this happen almost every game.

    http://xboxclips.com/VeNOM2O99/ce4db013-9cc3-463b-8506-50aadd55da99

    Worst part is I was shutting the other team out, and then this happened:

    http://xboxclips.com/VeNOM2O99/9b22bb40-aff7-4c2f-9f01-5a828bf2dd5e

    And then the whole thing snow balled from there. It's sad, because I really like the Goalie mode in 17 (I think I've said this over and over). The game is in serious need of a patch/tuner and it can't come soon enough.

    Well a gamechanger actually said it takes "skill" now to be an "elite" goalie and that in 17 you actually have to know how to play as the game won't do everything for you as it did in 16.

    He also said to stop crying and adapt.

    There you have it.

    Well... Jon's right in a sense: Goalie requires a good sense of how to actually play the position correctly to be good at it. If it wasn't for all the nonsense, he'd be 90% correct.

    Flopping all over the place and just staying on the goal line gets punished most of the time, if the player with the puck is smart. Plus, I think I have the movements and distances down now so I can actually play goalie like I know how and be dominant (if not always winning with the team I'm saddled with).

    Again, this game is in dire need of a patch + tuner update. I wish the aiming was toned down some. Especially in the "high percentage areas". Yes, they're high percentage, but it's too easy to get to them in this game. The percentages should be adjusted accordingly. Also the probability calculations for "deflections" and "loose pucks" should be adjusted to not head towards the net as much. Finally, and I'm sorry if people get upset, but if there's contact in the crease with the goalie, whether it's intentional or not, whether it's from a teammate or opponent, the play has to come to a stop (if it's not a penalty outright). Enough of the bullying of the goalies in the crease.

    People obviously don't have the self control, ability or know how to stay away from the goalie's zone. Please make it so that contact with the goalie immediately stops the play.

  • VeNOM2099 wrote: »
    *sigh*... I just can't keep quiet when I see things like this happen almost every game.

    http://xboxclips.com/VeNOM2O99/ce4db013-9cc3-463b-8506-50aadd55da99

    Worst part is I was shutting the other team out, and then this happened:

    http://xboxclips.com/VeNOM2O99/9b22bb40-aff7-4c2f-9f01-5a828bf2dd5e

    And then the whole thing snow balled from there. It's sad, because I really like the Goalie mode in 17 (I think I've said this over and over). The game is in serious need of a patch/tuner and it can't come soon enough.

    2 good goals!
    2nd one I would be talking to your team about hitting you. I dont think there is anything wrong with those 2. They are fine.
  • VeNOM2099
    3152 posts Member
    edited October 2016
    1st Goal the Goalie is dislocating his shoulder to catch the puck inside the net. The Animation itself is contrived and unrealistic. There was no reason to bring his arm back to catch the puck, yet he did, and there's nothing I can do to prevent that sort of thing because at no point in time am I in control of what animations plays out. Nevermind that my positioning wouldn't make such a save possible, but the game alllows it.

    2nd Goal, both my teammates and the opponents rammed into me pushing me out of position. But that's not the real problem with that clip. Take a look at it again. Watch for the moment BEFORE the hit happens, what am I doing?
  • The devs obv don't see anything wrong with this...nothing to fix here, working as intended apparently.
  • The devs obv don't see anything wrong with this...nothing to fix here, working as intended apparently.

    I am sure they will patch it by December. Well, I mean IN December.
  • http://imgur.com/yg65vYf Here is an example that doesn't necessarily a bad goalie animation but rather a bad animation that allows unrealistic and impossible shots to happen. This "curve shot" has been around for a long time and shows that offense is heavily favoured towards. @jonlolol if you could get the devs attention on this that would be awsome.
  • have you experienced where forwards literally have their body and face turned the complete wrong way towards their own goalie and take a slap shot facing that way, but puck magically goes the other way into the perfect open spot in the net?
  • http://xboxclips.com/VeNOM2O99/9d964125-58d4-46ec-8d91-8b11c54485ca

    That save animation is SO bad... Not because it looks bad (it does), but because it basically brings your goalie to a complete stop on the ice. You could be sliding across the crease full speed, but as soon as that animation comes out, it's like your goalie suddenly landed on a big puddle of super glue.

    http://xboxclips.com/VeNOM2O99/1383dafa-9aee-4f2c-90bb-2e39f89d2c38

    *sigh*... Sometimes... Not always... But sometimes... I want to throw BABIES at the NHL Devs... I'm sorry.
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