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gameplay is once again even more unresponsive and slower than before.they will not mention on the update but i bet they have done something to make their customers even more **** on purpose. ICE TILT is blatant and slower HUT team keep up with team with TEAM WHEEL AND SPEED synergy like it's nothing. EA GET
YOUR HEAD STRAIGHT. put people in places that know how to create a hockey game. this is a shame. embarrassing.

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  • Because this game always was very streaky over years I´ll waite for my final verdict ont this update. However, I played 6 single-player games last night and my goalies went to total loosers. Before last night my Schneider has a safe percentage of 91,08% with 1,5 GA in around 30 games. In all six games I received 6-7 goals against me! The goalie postioning was completely awful and every rebound came back to the AI.

    I was really happy that the safe percentage for the first time feels real in this game because in NHL 15 and 16 I always had 87-88%. However, now my 91% is history. I´m very exited to see what happens tonight? I hpe this was just one of these glorious streaks.

    Besides the goalie, my defense seems to be completely not interested to participate in this game. A few days ago I praised the improvement of the gameplay related to the goalies and the defenders. After last night it seems we`re back to NHL 16.
  • Played two games last night and had no issues.

    Maybe you just ran into better players?
  • Played two games last night and had no issues.

    Maybe you just ran into better players?

    no i knew i was better than the 3 players i played.. lost 1 won 2 but by very thin margin when i seriously should have won by 3 or more.
    i'm a honest player and i accept losing and understand that there are whole lot of better players than me , but it has been a nightmare trying to skate with puck in offensive zone feeling like a shallow swimming pool rather than ice.



  • Fair enough, do you take a look at the connection graphic in the right hand corner when you connect with your opponent? I always back out if its anything aside from 'Good'
  • +1 Gameplay is definitely off.
    All in all, We are all just bricks in the wall
  • Most probable cause : lag.

    It's safe to admit I've never seen a game that as so much connection problem as the nhl series, but the main cause of all problems is lag.

    You are not suppose to fly over everyone with TW and S by the way. The difference between 86 and 88 SPD is so small, a 5'6" player with 86 SPD is faster than a 6'0" player with 88 SPD. But lag will make your directional input late. So, slow start slow turn slow everything.

    Same thing with rebounds. They might bounce a little bit everywhere but with lag you can't direct your player at it.

  • Bufferbloat. You can have seconds of bufferbloat delay and it will not be detected by the in game network monitor.
  • Finch1965 wrote: »
    Because this game always was very streaky over years I´ll waite for my final verdict ont this update. However, I played 6 single-player games last night and my goalies went to total loosers. Before last night my Schneider has a safe percentage of 91,08% with 1,5 GA in around 30 games. In all six games I received 6-7 goals against me! The goalie postioning was completely awful and every rebound came back to the AI.

    I was really happy that the safe percentage for the first time feels real in this game because in NHL 15 and 16 I always had 87-88%. However, now my 91% is history. I´m very exited to see what happens tonight? I hpe this was just one of these glorious streaks.

    Besides the goalie, my defense seems to be completely not interested to participate in this game. A few days ago I praised the improvement of the gameplay related to the goalies and the defenders. After last night it seems we`re back to NHL 16.

    For you also? I was wondering what happened to my goalie performance in SP HUT. Used to play good but now it's just horrible. Thought it was just in my head :neutral:
  • learned my lesson the hard way and now i only go thru when connection bar is good. fair is just a crappy as poor IMO. it's not connection. definitely not. i bet 100$ to their 1$ that it's been modified somehow .
  • Finch1965 wrote: »
    Because this game always was very streaky over years I´ll waite for my final verdict ont this update. However, I played 6 single-player games last night and my goalies went to total loosers. Before last night my Schneider has a safe percentage of 91,08% with 1,5 GA in around 30 games. In all six games I received 6-7 goals against me! The goalie postioning was completely awful and every rebound came back to the AI.

    I was really happy that the safe percentage for the first time feels real in this game because in NHL 15 and 16 I always had 87-88%. However, now my 91% is history. I´m very exited to see what happens tonight? I hpe this was just one of these glorious streaks.

    Besides the goalie, my defense seems to be completely not interested to participate in this game. A few days ago I praised the improvement of the gameplay related to the goalies and the defenders. After last night it seems we`re back to NHL 16.

    For you also? I was wondering what happened to my goalie performance in SP HUT. Used to play good but now it's just horrible. Thought it was just in my head :neutral:

    It went even more worse with the goalie of my U23 team Gibson the last two days. Before the update my regular Gibson had a safe percentage of 89% in 17 games. This changed since the update, now its 83% in 20 games. Gibson seems to be almost blind in one of the single player game and received 9 goals. I lost this game on "Pro" mode 5:9 against an AHL team. I never lost on Pro before and never received more than 3-4 goals. The intention of this game was to relax a little bit with my second U23 team but instead I expereinced the worst single player team ever (and I played more than 2000 games over the last two years).

    I´m not a top player but quite experienced and not easy to beat. Usually I play D1 offline season games without any problems and last year I played most of the time in D2/D3 online or D1 as well offline. I still dont understand how this could happen on the "Pro" mode, this one is even easier than allstar, which I usually play and it was just an AHL team. Since the update I also lost two D1 offline games with my top 88+ team but this was on a different level against NHL teams.

    Anyway, I`m quite worried about the development with the goalies. Both of my leading goalies totaly suck since the update and now it`s even possible that I loose on "Pro" against minor teams. What is going on with this game. With the first 100 games of NHL 17 I never rceived more than 4 goals and I was even able to achieve shotouts. Since update I receive 6,7 or even 9 goals against me on a regular base.







  • Taste-D-Rainbow
    2514 posts Member
    edited October 2016
    Fair enough, do you take a look at the connection graphic in the right hand corner when you connect with your opponent? I always back out if its anything aside from 'Good'

    This doesn't work. I played a guy a few days ago that had full bars and Good. The lag was literally 5 seconds in between miliseconds of gameplay. Took a couple of minutes to get through 30 seconds of in game play and was hard as hell just to pause the game and quit. Definitely thought I was gonna get am L. I matched up with him moments later and the green bar still said good. Safe to say I didn't bother launching with him again.
  • I've had the odd game like that as well.

    Maybe because I'm located in Toronto, I assume I'm usually playing someone who is fairly local. I'd have to assume Toronto/Montreal probably have the largest amount of players per geographical region in the world.

    But who knows.
  • Taste-D-Rainbow
    2514 posts Member
    edited October 2016
    EA definitely did something with their net code to make EASHL run smoother. HUT plays like a soggy sandwhich. It baffles me that NHL is the only game, P2P or not, that has this amount of input lag in VS games.
  • HEP2214
    67 posts Member
    edited October 2016
    This game has always been a lagging input delayed mess. Nothing has changed. There is no ice tilt. A good player with any halfway decent team and a good connection is going to beat an average to above average player with a stacked team and worse connection. I've run team wheel with all the top players and hut heroes and lost to a guy with an average record (around 70-40) and I'm 75-6. His team skated circles around my 96 Bure like nothing and chara caught him on breakaways 3 times. It's all input delay there is no ice tilt. I beat scrub teams all the time by 5+ goals bc my connection was solid that game. Btw I run a hard wire 300 down and 30 up connection and have bad connections in half my games.
  • It was laggy last night, but haven't noticed much difference in the gameplay other than sticklifts...still trying to unlearn my aversion to the X button...
  • The lag is probably related to wanting to make us feel like our teams are inadequate so that we pull out our credit cards. This industry isn't regulated so they can probably do whatever else they want too.
  • The lag is probably related to wanting to make us feel like our teams are inadequate so that we pull out our credit cards. This industry isn't regulated so they can probably do whatever else they want too.

    Before someone comments "how can players have records of 100-10 then?" It's because those players have mastered the exploits.
  • The lag is probably related to wanting to make us feel like our teams are inadequate so that we pull out our credit cards. This industry isn't regulated so they can probably do whatever else they want too.

    Before someone comments "how can players have records of 100-10 then?" It's because those players have mastered the exploits.

    AND they probably have a "favorable" internet connection/situation. It's still pretty hard to exploit your competition when you can't move your skater...LOL
  • HUT is garbage. Make HUT great again!
  • The simple fact is when ea let's you score you score. When it let's you pass it will pass. So on so forth. No one should have to play a game where the host company is meddling with attributes and making the game unplayable. Or worse.. playable with no point. I have seen too many games were a simple shot from the line goes in vs all the effort towards teamwork never working out. The game is a joke and not 1 player should leave the game feeling like a better player because it's ea that decides the game. Not the players. Has made for the worst hockey experience in the history of the franchise.

    I will say this. The 3rd period is fun but who the heck wants to play it after the first period. I can't even stomach more then half the games I play I play anymore simply choosing to stop playing after the first or even during it cause nothing much works properly if at all. Simply not much fun in the game anymore
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