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They've released 4 games in a row (NHL 15-18) with broken online play. The producers have stated that they know about the issues and don't know how to fix them so if you care about online play, don't bother wasting your money.
Just giving you all fair warning.

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  • What exactly is broken? You haven't told us anything.
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  • MadCard05 wrote: »
    What exactly is broken? You haven't told us anything.

    I'm guessing just about everything as usual. Skating, shooting, poke checking, body checking, and passing for starters. I'm sure all that is with a heavy helping of stuck-in-mud.

    Just taking a stab in the dark here...LOL.
  • MadCard05 wrote: »
    What exactly is broken? You haven't told us anything.

    I'm guessing just about everything as usual. Skating, shooting, poke checking, body checking, and passing for starters. I'm sure all that is with a heavy helping of stuck-in-mud.

    Just taking a stab in the dark here...LOL.


    I would love to see this video evidence of players stuck in the mud.

    Most likely it players coming to a stop and changing direction, and not understanding starts and stops tied in with players momentum.

    But I guess until video evidence is provided it will be the noobs way to explain what it is they dont understand.
    You must unlearn what you have learned!
  • It's very frustrating to have to read this stuff.

    Hating on the NHL series has basically become a meme, like hating on Nickleback, or whatever instead of actually coming in with non pre-conceptions.

    To me it distorts reality because you can't tell what is reality and what is just "meme hate" anymore. Did this guy really play the game, is there something to be learned of value here, or is this just memeing against NHL for internet karma points?

    As a guy whose grown up in the internet age, starting right at it's emphasis, it's very, very frustrating to see this phenomenon going on right now. People need to think for themselves and offer insight and depth to their opinions instead of memeing to be the next internet karma king. It doesn't help EA make a better product, it just kills useful communication and doesn't change anything.
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  • MadCard05 wrote: »
    What exactly is broken? You haven't told us anything.

    Lots of lag in EASHL. It's been an issue for 4 years now; people deserve to know this before they spend $70.

  • COGSx86 wrote: »
    MadCard05 wrote: »
    What exactly is broken? You haven't told us anything.

    I'm guessing just about everything as usual. Skating, shooting, poke checking, body checking, and passing for starters. I'm sure all that is with a heavy helping of stuck-in-mud.

    Just taking a stab in the dark here...LOL.


    I would love to see this video evidence of players stuck in the mud.

    Most likely it players coming to a stop and changing direction, and not understanding starts and stops tied in with players momentum.

    But I guess until video evidence is provided it will be the noobs way to explain what it is they dont understand.

    As far as video evidence goes, stuck-in-mud isn't something you can see a video of. It's more or less a feeling where everything you do on your controller feels slow, heavy, or weak. I've played enough of this series over the last ten years to know what "right" is supposed to feel like, and trust me (and many others) when I say this game hasn't been right ever since it tried to make the transition to PS4 and One. So there is nothing "noob" about me here.

    I'm sure internet setup has a lot to do with things. I will say in my experiences I have tried a handful of different routers, firmwares, and modems, and it really doesn't change the end experience. My ISP says there are no issues whatsoever and all of my internet stats are within spec, so I have done everything I can possibly do to remedy the problem. The only other options would be to change ISPs (monopoly here) or physically move (yeah that's a realistic solution eh?)

    So it kind of is what it is until EA decides they want to change the way the online play works.
  • I really think it has to do with "hops" and what route you get sent on. Try doing a hard reset on your modem (not your router) it worked for me.
  • COGSx86 wrote: »
    I would love to see this video evidence of players stuck in the mud.

    Most likely it players coming to a stop and changing direction, and not understanding starts and stops tied in with players momentum.

    But I guess until video evidence is provided it will be the noobs way to explain what it is they dont understand.
    I experience this in at least 40-50% of games (EASHL) and it has nothing to do with not "understanding starts and stops". It's because of lag. I'm in Europe so maybe all of you in NA don't experience this on such a consistent basis but it's ridiculous that we have a game in 2017 that you can't play online with friends unless they're within like 1000 square miles or something. And before you continue making excuses for them, this is the ONLY game where I have this problem and I play tons of other games (including sports games) online with people all over the world. If other devs can figure it out, this dev team should be able to.

  • I really think it has to do with "hops" and what route you get sent on. Try doing a hard reset on your modem (not your router) it worked for me.

    I get 20 hops from console to server in this game (according to traceroute to easo.ea.com) regardless of anything I try in my house.

    The final hop shows 60-70ms latency pretty consistently, however, when I look at the network stats in EASHL it shows about 25ms. Not sure why such a difference. HUT and VS are quite variable.
  • MadCard05 wrote: »
    What exactly is broken? You haven't told us anything.

    Lots of lag in EASHL. It's been an issue for 4 years now; people deserve to know this before they spend $70.

    Yep. Just like with NHL 15, 16, & 17, some games feel great and you feel like your player is doing what your instructing him to do, while other games feel like your fighting the controller. Part of it is lag and part of it is the excessive animations. And, just like with NHL 15, 16, 17, don't even try to play an EASHL game when you get connected to a server outside your region. It makes you want to throw the game out the window.

    Basically, nothing has changed in regards to the online factors.
  • This all boils down to shotty netcode. People shouldn't be getting routed all over the place and there definitely should be a way to choose your server to connect to. Rocket League has server select. If I play on the west coast na servers I lag, same if I play on Europe. If I play on na east I'm perfectly fine all the time.
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  • MadCard05 wrote: »
    It's very frustrating to have to read this stuff.

    Hating on the NHL series has basically become a meme, like hating on Nickleback, or whatever instead of actually coming in with non pre-conceptions.

    To me it distorts reality because you can't tell what is reality and what is just "meme hate" anymore. Did this guy really play the game, is there something to be learned of value here, or is this just memeing against NHL for internet karma points?

    As a guy whose grown up in the internet age, starting right at it's emphasis, it's very, very frustrating to see this phenomenon going on right now. People need to think for themselves and offer insight and depth to their opinions instead of memeing to be the next internet karma king. It doesn't help EA make a better product, it just kills useful communication and doesn't change anything.

    This has been what I have been saying for 2 years now.
  • 2 years? That's been going on for 7 years at least
  • 2 years? That's been going on for 7 years at least

    Lol... I definitely do not doubt that...

    but I became actively involved in forums at the start of NHL 16
  • It's sad, however that said I was one of those who just bad mouthed the game out of frustration and anger and hatred for ea. Now I try to have an objective opinion despite not playing the series in a while.
  • Offline the game is great.

    Online skating/input lag delay (whatever you want to call it, is brutal.
  • You cant show this?

    I find that hard to believe. If your lagging your guy would have delayed reactions on the ice, that could be very easily shown in a video.

    You guys say its based on what your feeling..................But no one else can see it on video.

    Seems legit.
    You must unlearn what you have learned!
  • The one thing that far exceeds the flaws of the game is the hyperbolic nature of the negativity on these forums. There are some real problems to the product. All these blatant exaggerations, like "the game has been broken for years", aren't helping.
  • COGSx86 wrote: »
    You cant show this?

    I find that hard to believe. If your lagging your guy would have delayed reactions on the ice, that could be very easily shown in a video.

    You guys say its based on what your feeling..................But no one else can see it on video.

    Seems legit.

    Right? If I'm playing any game and someone is having latency problems I can easily see that on my screen. If I'm having latency problems myself I can see it. It'd definitely show up on video.
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