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Rebounds, the easiest way to score?

Seems like nobody is complaining about goalies anymore, are you EASHL happy with it now? :o

Anyways, this is an example of very common event in EASHL - yes I know, your d-men should cover it etc. but this happens a lot, and there's really no reason why it should. There are so many things wrong with it.



First thing, is there's no way that this kind of soft backhand should cause ANY trouble to a goalie, who's even remotely in correct position like here. Secondly, there should be no rebound, or the goalie should be able to direct it harmlessly to the left.

Since this was a club game, I didn't have the option to look it more closely with a proper replay. But it looks like either the shot hit the left pad or the stick, and yet it was deflected directly into the waiting stick of the winger on the right, just like they wanted. Even if the puck seems to hit my goalie on the left side of the centre line (can't be absolutely sure where, since I couldnt' rotate the view). In addition to the glitch shots, this is the most common way of scoring in EASHL, there's really no excuse why this should be happening.

Finally, do you notice how just after the rebound being deflected right, the goalie does this little nudge forwards, for absolutely no reason, and thereby makes the gap even larger so the other winger just can't miss it? And I can assure you I didnt' do anything like that. Why did it happen? All this seems deliberately programmed in to me.

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  • Socair
    2704 posts Game Changer
    Yeah it’s so prevalent, was bad last year too. Terrible in 3s...hard to defend if you’re a lone d man versus a two on one rush and it’s like, “do I defend the shot, the cross or the rebound?”. But I hate “rebounders” more than anything.
  • Goalies are way too generous with the rebounds, for sure. They should only be that juicy off a heavy shot. The little wristers should be easy to control. To answer your question, i doubt many people are happy with the goalie situation, but there are so many issues that it's hard to consistently complain about each one.
  • This is a massive problem with the game for sure, has been for a while. In 6's its very easy to defend but in 3s its hard like it was said earlier. No idea why these people at EA even see this as ok when its such a **** play. It cannot be that hard to fix. The only thing I can see is that there is so many awful players in this game that they cant score any other way so this is something they can do. Makes no sense that this is in the game 2 years in a row.
  • Yes, that was kind my point, it seems so deliberately coded, that it's hardly a 'bug' or whatever, rather than a feature of the game coded on purpose?
  • It's definitely deliberate.

    And this is one of many examples as to why I would never play 3s. So many of the games problems get exploited with so much wide open space.
  • EpiCxOwNeD
    629 posts Member
    edited January 2018
    EA should give manually controlled goalies the ability to punch and kick pucks into the corner. Never understood why that's yet to happen. One of biggest things about goaltending is goalies kicking the puck to the boards.
    Post edited by EpiCxOwNeD on
  • EpiCxOwNeD wrote: »
    EA should give manually controlled goalies the ability to punch and kick pucks into the corner. Never understood why that yet to happen. One of biggest things about goaltending is goalies kicking the puck to boards.

    Also give us the ability to manually control our glove or blocker to the left or right to cover up loose pucks.
  • No one brings things up because there is no point, people have been complaining about bad goaltending, TPS, puck pickups, and many other things, yet very minimal progress has been made on anything. The dev team seems to have picked their course and are sticking to it, regardless of feedback.

    I look back through older threads and see so many of the users who gave all kinds of feedback are banned now, no doubt from making too many negative posts, no doubt their bans were deserved, but thats the kind of negativity this game generates now, these forums are dead compared to what they used to be.
  • I guess EA doesn't want goalies being good (or even decently good) since that's not where the money is... it's with HUT and scoring sick goals, right?
  • EpiCxOwNeD wrote: »
    EA should give manually controlled goalies the ability to punch and kick pucks into the corner. Never understood why that's yet to happen. One of biggest things about goaltending is goalies kicking the puck to the boards.

    Believe it or not, manual goalies used to be able to fling the glove, stick, (or if in butterfly, legs) to react to something they knew the game would not be able to react to in time before NHL 13 and the "anticipation stick" feature. The maual glove and stick from a standing position were almost useless, but kicking out the legs to clear a loose puck next to your body towards the board was such an amazing move that most goalies never made full use of.

    It certainly saved my skin on countless occassions, and i would love to see it back. Even though you can kind of do the same thing now, it forces you to move, which can hurt your play, which the old version did not.
  • Sgt_Kelso wrote: »
    Yes, that was kind my point, it seems so deliberately coded, that it's hardly a 'bug' or whatever, rather than a feature of the game coded on purpose?

    I see it more as lazy programming. Pucks are always kicked out the same way, on the same angle.
  • Sgt_Kelso wrote: »
    Yes, that was kind my point, it seems so deliberately coded, that it's hardly a 'bug' or whatever, rather than a feature of the game coded on purpose?

    I see it more as lazy programming. Pucks are always kicked out the same way, on the same angle.

    They took the coding from pong I hear.
  • EpiCxOwNeD
    629 posts Member
    edited January 2018
    EpiCxOwNeD wrote: »
    EA should give manually controlled goalies the ability to punch and kick pucks into the corner. Never understood why that's yet to happen. One of biggest things about goaltending is goalies kicking the puck to the boards.

    Believe it or not, manual goalies used to be able to fling the glove, stick, (or if in butterfly, legs) to react to something they knew the game would not be able to react to in time before NHL 13 and the "anticipation stick" feature. The maual glove and stick from a standing position were almost useless, but kicking out the legs to clear a loose puck next to your body towards the board was such an amazing move that most goalies never made full use of.

    It certainly saved my skin on countless occassions, and i would love to see it back. Even though you can kind of do the same thing now, it forces you to move, which can hurt your play, which the old version did not.

    I think the anticipation stick is better than what the right stick does for goalies now. Every time I tried to use the right I just get scored on. For me, I don't use for that reason. I think I might just be bad at it.
  • Goalies has the tenancy to kick the puck back towards the shooter with the leg movement and even stick. EA hasn't improved goalie AI much in years.
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