Bacon Country asks "Would you buy NHL 19 now?" Everyone says no.
A whole video from Bacon Country showing how bad this game has become. He asks if people would still buy it now knowing what happened to it.
47k views (as of now) 500+ comments, hundreds of likes on comments, and EVERYONE agrees they would not buy NHL 19 knowing what it's become.
EA can just save face by saying "Even though we didn't change much in 1.03, our consumers as a group felt otherwise, so we are reverting to 1.00 (or 1.01) to please them."
None of us care if the Devs save some face. We all just want our game back. Please EA. Bring back 1.00. Save face however you want, no one here cares about saying "I told you so", we just want back the game we bought. And so do thousands of other people.
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There are 3 or 4 guys here who staunchly defend it.
Nasher,dontbesaad will defend the game lol
PSN undertaker9999
I defend it because I enjoy it, but I'm also a realist...if an overwhelming # of customers are demanding something it the intelligent move would be to give it to them.
Insisting on a game nobody wants isn't a hill to die on.
I can also name each and every one of them.
I can understand not wanting to go against their own vision, but meet your player in the middle. At least!
And to think that when you play defense the main thing you worry about is unscreened short side shots. When the other team is crossing your blue line, you aren't worrying about cross crease one timers, deflections, and good passing plays. You are above all, over anything, worried about short side goals that should not go in.
I Read a good chunk of those comments and it's the same thing as reddit, twitter, this forum and when playing drop ins (if you can get into a game that is)
So true and so unrealistic. Defense 101 on a 2 on 1 is let the goalie take the shooter, defenseman takes the pass. But you simply can't do that in this game.
I probably would have declined to purchase as too little progress away from the same ol play of the last few years. I actually think I am much better at this version of the game, but just get little joy from having to play this way to win and it being so repetitive.
Sounds like it may be time to hang em up with no tuner undoing the damage on the horizon ...
After watching the whole game BC is SPOT ON about the current state of the game.
I even let my head slam on the desk watching his player pivot 180 degrees and back without losing speed and maintaining the puck like a boss. I feel like I want to have my GF record me playing a RL game and randomly pivot back and forth up the ice. Even better is to do it in the offensive zone to try a draw a trip.
I learned an important lesson from this, don't consider buying NHL 20 (and future games) until a few months after its release. They can just decide to completely change the game with a couple of tuners/patches if they want.
The 500+ comments and all the likes agree with all of us asking for a reversion to a previous Tuner (1.00 or 1.01).
Do y'all really feel that this video is a better representation of hockey than your initial tuners offered?
Bacon has an angle in that video and makes his point. However, let's break down some details. He talks about all the changes that were made and takes a stance that nobody had a problem with the Beta and yet we made changes.
One of those changes was to make tripping less sensitive and yet in his video one of the main points of contention is how trips happen too easily. He could have easily made that portion of the video about how we have started to go in the right direction with that change but personally he would want to see it go further. But instead it got grouped in with the fact that we shouldn't have made changes.
He also mentions that we changed skating (which people were mostly falsely harping on that we slowed down speed and pivots specifically) but he blows past a player with McDavid in that last clip after doing that little half pivot at speed. He actually tried this move where his opponent was closer when he cut in and he bumped him off the puck from behind @ 2:44. Some may even argue that McDavid could power through that in real life but others say that you can't hit anymore with the tuning and that is a fairly low relative speed bump from behind which is the only place we tuned hitting.
For the "short side" goals:
- He dances with Malkin saying 'I know he can't hit me' yet the other human player doesn't even get close to try and hit him. Bacon is skating amongst ai players that have defensive actions against a puck carrier turned off (also remember that Bacon was a big advocate for removing skill zone defense and wanting to see more manual defense from the human) and then with the responsive skating, he turns the other player inside out and cuts in to get a chance. Malkin scores short side and the ai goalie could have made the save and bailed that player out but is this Bacon getting an easy goal or his opponent paying for really bad defense?
- This next goal is the reason I put short side in quotes above. Bacon backs up and sits in crouch block on his goaltender as he lets his opponent practically cut into the middle of the slot and pick the corner. He calls this one his fault but makes sure to say that the player was going short side as opposed to just call it a dangerous shot form the slot. I don't think we want ai goalies bailing players out on these chances when they get a good shot off.
- Then the last is the McDavid goal to win it that I mentioned above. It was poor D mixed with McDavid's speed and the guy makes a living in real life doing that exact thing so it does kinda represent real hockey:
Here’s the thing. Why were short side snipes not as effective in before the tuners than now? Every shot short side on a 2 on 1 results in a goal. There many examples me and others of this community playing 2 on 1 perfectly and the goalie will always let in the shot.
For the McDavid video. Yes, he can do that quite frequently. But no one is McDavid like McDavid. So using him as an example for the reason weak short side shots is as effective as it is laughable. There are many short side shots in 19 that are at the top of the circle unscreened and still go in. NHL goalies will stop these. If an NHL can see that, it will be stopped. McDavid came flying in and roofed a quick shot a couple of feet in front Smith. So obviously that has a higher chance of going in. Smith doesn’t have time to react and doesn’t know where he’s going to place his shot. Like I said before, there are many garbage short side shots that go in from far.
Seriously, there’s difference between what McDavid did and 2 on 1s.
I’ve made multiple comments on this. Everything you learned playing or watching hockey tells you the dman always takes the pass so the goalie can take the shooter. You see this pretty much every game you watch. EA stance on “high quality scoring areas” is somewhat flawed. Many goalies will save these shots if they can see them.
2on1s can be saved EA. Tune the goalies to better reflect this.