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hut trade deadline 125k packs

do not know if it is me or what. i'll just spell it out and let you guys guide me in the right direction.

in the packs screen it is titled

the pack your stuff pack (untradeable)
6 items, including a choice (1 of 2 )trade deadline player item, and a choice of gold or icon collectable.

got it, now go to the pack...….press button for odds, and it says.

the pack your stuff pack (untradeable)

minimum probability of getting one or MORE players of the overall range or described category in this pack

category probability
88+ player 100%
90+ player 91%
92+ player 39%

now this indicates I should have a guaranteed round with an 88+ player and another round with another player ( 88 or better )

but my rounds went as follows

rd 1.....choice gold/bronze jersey
rd2...…choice silver/silver jersey
rd 3.....choice #24/#47
rd 4.....choice edm arena/ phi arena
rd 5..... choice 90 ovr player/ 92 ovr player ( guess which I took )
rd 6.....choice gold/icon collectable

where was the other player choice round? did I miss something? or is the wording of the packs wrong?
should have an 88 card, and 88+ card no?

I guess bottom line is there is implied more than one round of player picks ( wording is very crucial ) and there is only one round. so now what?

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  • I got 95 Gretzky in mine lol
  • do not know if it is me or what. i'll just spell it out and let you guys guide me in the right direction.

    in the packs screen it is titled

    the pack your stuff pack (untradeable)
    6 items, including a choice (1 of 2 )trade deadline player item, and a choice of gold or icon collectable.

    got it, now go to the pack...….press button for odds, and it says.

    the pack your stuff pack (untradeable)

    minimum probability of getting one or MORE players of the overall range or described category in this pack

    category probability
    88+ player 100%
    90+ player 91%
    92+ player 39%

    now this indicates I should have a guaranteed round with an 88+ player and another round with another player ( 88 or better )

    but my rounds went as follows

    rd 1.....choice gold/bronze jersey
    rd2...…choice silver/silver jersey
    rd 3.....choice #24/#47
    rd 4.....choice edm arena/ phi arena
    rd 5..... choice 90 ovr player/ 92 ovr player ( guess which I took )
    rd 6.....choice gold/icon collectable

    where was the other player choice round? did I miss something? or is the wording of the packs wrong?
    should have an 88 card, and 88+ card no?

    I guess bottom line is there is implied more than one round of player picks ( wording is very crucial ) and there is only one round. so now what?

    I think the wording is pretty straightforward. It says you choose between two players. In round 5 you did exactly that.

    Out of the two players you get to choose, one or both will be an 88, so 100% chance. There is a 91% chance you will get a 90+ and a 39% chance you will get a 92+.
  • actually the wording in only partially right. the pack odds clearly states one or MORE players. i'll give you an example.

    last 2 weeks were flashback with the green pack of a guaranteed gold collectible and player 87+, and blue pack guaranteed icon collectable and 87+. 1 pack each for each week.

    pack odds were the same one or MORE players
    87+ 100%
    89+ 100%
    90+ 39% ( if memory is correct

    I opened the 2 packs the 1st week, and 2 the second week and these were my pulls

    87 burke, 89 big buff, 89 boumeester, 92 niedermayer, and 93 McCabe twice

    for a total of six pulls in only four packs, so I understand where you are coming from, and I understand there were gold fillers in those flashback packs, but the wording was the same with 2 completely different out comes.

    there should have been at least 2 rounds in this weeks packs of players, even if the choices were mute.

    I get that the main title of the packs says 1 player, that is a legal point of the title description, BUT, the pack odds also state the fact there is more than ONE chance to pull another player. is this not also a legal point.
    that's why it is very important to make sure that wording in the filler MATCHES the wording of the title.

    do I expect a card....no....but realistically the packs last 2 weeks were better and a lot cheaper.
  • edit

    you would be wrong in your answer as well, the pack odds state I am guaranteed 100% an 88_ card, then the chance of a 90+ at 91%, then a chance at 92+ at 39%. still should have been 2 or more cards based on the wording.

    which actually means everyone should have gotten atleast 2 cards during the flashback event

    example on flashback I should have received 4 87's, 4 89's, and hit the jackpot with the 92, and 93's

    wording, wording, wording...….point is change the wording on the pack odds, or put a disclaimer on the bottom in the pack odss, or both
  • edit

    you would be wrong in your answer as well, the pack odds state I am guaranteed 100% an 88_ card, then the chance of a 90+ at 91%, then a chance at 92+ at 39%. still should have been 2 or more cards based on the wording.

    which actually means everyone should have gotten atleast 2 cards during the flashback event

    example on flashback I should have received 4 87's, 4 89's, and hit the jackpot with the 92, and 93's

    wording, wording, wording...….point is change the wording on the pack odds, or put a disclaimer on the bottom in the pack odss, or both

    That’s not how the odds works. They are part of each other. You have 100% chance of a 88, 91% that it is over 90 (could be the same card fitting both criteria/odds), etc...
  • Not sure what you are confused about. It is straight forward. Just read it. “or” not “and” also exactly what boumbidiboum said. If you didn’t get a card over 88 then you’d have something to post about.
  • ok then answer these 2 points

    mega pack 15 plus players, and fillers

    odds 80 ovr…..100%
    82 ovr…...60%
    86 ovr…...17%

    with me so far, now open the pack, and lets say it was 15 gold players, and 15 contracts just to keep it simple.

    most packs will be

    2 - 80 ovr
    1 - 81/82 lets say 82 for this purpose
    and 12 - 75 ovr

    now they hit tier I at the 80 mark, even gave 2, cool, now I got an 82, hit the level 2 by luck, and the odds were just to short on this pack for the 86+, no biggy, but the pack tiers were in fact hit. just ran out of luck on the 86+

    now the same is for the event packs, when they tier it like this....which is why wording is very important.

    my point is is that if ea only wanted us to pull one card in the current event pack then the wording should be as simple as 1 tier 100% 88+ card. period. no other info required.

    the way it is set up is I am suppose to have 3.... yes three rounds of player pulls ( even if 2 rounds are dud cards ) to satisfy the tier levels they state

    so long story short because the way they word this , the worst case scenario on the pack pull should have been 1 88 player, 1 80, and 1 75 lets say, and the best pull should have been 1 88+, 1 90+, and 1 92+

    either the pack odds should read only 1 tier 100% chance 88 or better, or there needs to be a disclaimer in reference to how they want things done ( easier in this case just to have it 88+ on 1 tier )

    its not so bad on other packs, they actually keep those pretty good, but on the event packs, with fewer choices, this now becomes an issue. and right now they owe a lot of people players.

    by your example on the last event with the 2 weekly packs I should have only received 4 players 87+ ( 2 packs each week ), I in fact got 6, and I should we gotten 8 ( 4 87+ 100%, and 4 89+ 100% ), so there is a hole in your logic on this one.

    but you are right, it is what it is, and right now the way it is presented, we are all missing players ( those of us who open the 125k packs.

    ea, just change it to say 1 tier 88+ 100% problem solved
  • boumbidiboum
    446 posts Member
    edited February 2020
    ok then answer these 2 points

    mega pack 15 plus players, and fillers

    odds 80 ovr…..100%
    82 ovr…...60%
    86 ovr…...17%

    with me so far, now open the pack, and lets say it was 15 gold players, and 15 contracts just to keep it simple.

    most packs will be

    2 - 80 ovr
    1 - 81/82 lets say 82 for this purpose
    and 12 - 75 ovr

    now they hit tier I at the 80 mark, even gave 2, cool, now I got an 82, hit the level 2 by luck, and the odds were just to short on this pack for the 86+, no biggy, but the pack tiers were in fact hit. just ran out of luck on the 86+

    now the same is for the event packs, when they tier it like this....which is why wording is very important.

    my point is is that if ea only wanted us to pull one card in the current event pack then the wording should be as simple as 1 tier 100% 88+ card. period. no other info required.

    the way it is set up is I am suppose to have 3.... yes three rounds of player pulls ( even if 2 rounds are dud cards ) to satisfy the tier levels they state

    so long story short because the way they word this , the worst case scenario on the pack pull should have been 1 88 player, 1 80, and 1 75 lets say, and the best pull should have been 1 88+, 1 90+, and 1 92+

    either the pack odds should read only 1 tier 100% chance 88 or better, or there needs to be a disclaimer in reference to how they want things done ( easier in this case just to have it 88+ on 1 tier )

    its not so bad on other packs, they actually keep those pretty good, but on the event packs, with fewer choices, this now becomes an issue. and right now they owe a lot of people players.

    by your example on the last event with the 2 weekly packs I should have only received 4 players 87+ ( 2 packs each week ), I in fact got 6, and I should we gotten 8 ( 4 87+ 100%, and 4 89+ 100% ), so there is a hole in your logic on this one.

    but you are right, it is what it is, and right now the way it is presented, we are all missing players ( those of us who open the 125k packs.

    ea, just change it to say 1 tier 88+ 100% problem solved

    I don’t know why you’re talking about tiers when no where on the screen it says that. The odds are only the odds to get one card of that overall.

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    (Sorry for the angle of the picture)

    In that there’s nothing saying anything about the amount of cards that you get. You could get 1 85+ Master Icon in the pack and the odds would be all completed because it is a Master Icon over 85, over 82 and over 80.

    If you want to know how many guaranteed gold players, event items or other items, you need to check the pack description like this:

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    The only thing guaranteed there is at least one of the 10 players that you get is 80+ OVR.

    EDIT: Wording is important. Tiers and Categories are not the same, just in case you go that way in your response. A tier is a row or level of a structure, typically one of a series of rows placed one above the other and successively receding or diminishing in size. Categories can be included inside another, Tiers can’t. So that may be your misunderstanding, you don’t use the correct wording.
  • Correct me if I'm wrong but what you mean is, if the description of the odds states you can get "one or more players" you should have an opportunity to pull a second player (the quality of which is determined by the odds). But, with this pack, there is only one round of player selection and you only get one pick.

    The wording is poor, because you are only "getting" one player but as usual we will never win the fight when it comes to ambiguous wording.

    What they actually mean, when it comes to the round of picking a player, at least one of your choices will be an 88+ but both choices could be 88+.

  • Also, I'd like to point out that Madden calls these packs Fantasy Packs and the description is never ambiguous.
    There have been mistakes however in the descriptions from time to time, and they always make it right by awarding those impacted with compensation.
  • Correct me if I'm wrong but what you mean is, if the description of the odds states you can get "one or more players" you should have an opportunity to pull a second player (the quality of which is determined by the odds). But, with this pack, there is only one round of player selection and you only get one pick.

    The wording is poor, because you are only "getting" one player but as usual we will never win the fight when it comes to ambiguous wording.

    What they actually mean, when it comes to the round of picking a player, at least one of your choices will be an 88+ but both choices could be 88+.

    I don’t know if there’s chances to get players on the other rounds and what are the odds of that happening. Sure thing is that people need to stop assuming stuff that are not written. The description from the Odds screen is a description of how the odds work, not the pack. The description of the pack is shown when you select the pack (just before clicking on it to buy it).
  • What the pack description doesn't state is what you get in the pack.
    They could easily put "1 player round and the rest of the rounds are miscellaneous items" in the description, like Madden does, to prevent confusion.
    The EA NHL team can't even be bothered to include in the description of the sets the overall rating of the player you get when you complete them.
  • I do get what everyone is saying, and I fully understand that the percentages per level of player indicates a substitution.

    with that being said the pack screen still says 1 player, and one collectible, and now the odds screen ( which surpasses the main screen ) now states ( in bold letters ) 1 or MORE player picks. this implies 2, 3, infinity more players depending on the pack.

    I understand contracts, and agreements well, and the odd screen over rules any other agreement ( including the tos ) unless there is a disclaimer.

    which is why either ea, in the case of this pack should have the odds screen only say

    probability of getting only 1 player 88+ 100%

    make sense now

    don't mean to come off rude to you guys....you are awesome, and I graciously offer a heart felt I am sorry if I offended anyone
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