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If there’s a better way to post video, sorry. Otherwise, this to me really kills the game. I tweeted several examples of how easy it is to skate right by ai defenders. I know some will say “don’t play offline” but that’s inexcusable. Did nobody at EA notice this during testing or did we just think it was acceptable? Serious question.

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  • EA_Blueberry
    4769 posts EA Community Manager
    Thanks for the video, @Cote12

    Are you able to skate around the defender if you decrease the slider even more to the 20s? Curious if there is a sweet spot where you'll find the gameplay experience you really want.

    @Oslik1000 is big on sliders, any advice here?
  • Thanks for the video, @Cote12

    Are you able to skate around the defender if you decrease the slider even more to the 20s? Curious if there is a sweet spot where you'll find the gameplay experience you really want.

    @Oslik1000 is big on sliders, any advice here?

    Hey thanks for reply. Sorry if I was being too harsh, I just want my hockey fix like anyone else. I am trying hard to find that sweet spot, as you’ve put it. The problem going too low is it makes playing defense impossible. I’d appreciate any suggestions from anyone else and will be sure to share any of my own findings!
  • Simple fix: leave skating speed, acceleration, agility at default 50. Turn “puck carrier skating” down to 25, then “puck carrier agility” down to 0, turn “back skating” up to 70.

    Should mitigate blowing by defenders with ease.
  • Cote12 wrote: »


    If there’s a better way to post video, sorry. Otherwise, this to me really kills the game. I tweeted several examples of how easy it is to skate right by ai defenders. I know some will say “don’t play offline” but that’s inexcusable. Did nobody at EA notice this during testing or did we just think it was acceptable? Serious question.

    I noticed this immediately. That D man should be keeping you to the outside. Another thing that would be nice is if those AI D men would have a more active stick. Poking/sweeping.

  • Cote12 wrote: »


    If there’s a better way to post video, sorry. Otherwise, this to me really kills the game. I tweeted several examples of how easy it is to skate right by ai defenders. I know some will say “don’t play offline” but that’s inexcusable. Did nobody at EA notice this during testing or did we just think it was acceptable? Serious question.

    I noticed this immediately. That D man should be keeping you to the outside. Another thing that would be nice is if those AI D men would have a more active stick. Poking/sweeping.

    the problem is.... does not matter how your (human) speed is... cpu will not faster than you never. it is any issue. I have set human 30 cpu 60 with the same result. human 20 cpu 60 still the same. 10/60 the game is unplayable because human is too slow. it is the same on this video....

    yes, d-mans must do more poking/sweeping . not power active only more about 500% increase.
  • Simple fix: leave skating speed, acceleration, agility at default 50. Turn “puck carrier skating” down to 25, then “puck carrier agility” down to 0, turn “back skating” up to 70.

    Should mitigate blowing by defenders with ease.

    ok I will do try this today
  • Oslik1000 wrote: »
    Simple fix: leave skating speed, acceleration, agility at default 50. Turn “puck carrier skating” down to 25, then “puck carrier agility” down to 0, turn “back skating” up to 70.

    Should mitigate blowing by defenders with ease.

    ok I will do try this today

    Let me know how it goes. I was loving offline till I tried it for the first time post-patch and had an almost complete 180 flip in my experience. Felt like NHL 20 again, no pressure in the neutral zone, goalies only giving up cross-crease goals despite low reaction time and high screen effect sliders. Took all of the dynamic elements I was loving pre-patch out of the game. I was going to post my set, but I couldn’t get myself too after not liking what I was experiencing last night. Back the drawing board...wish this was a PC release so I could remove patches that seem to only hurt my experience with the game every year.
  • Yep! This has ruined my Be a Pro experience. I was getting bored of it anyway due to its repetitiveness and illogical logic (how does having a private conversation with my coach effect my brand?), but I wanted to see where it went and just how much they actually added.

    However, now that I can seemingly go to net at will on any difficulty level, is beyond ridiculous. This game will never be right. No more hashtag fix this or fix that - #EA Stop Making Hockey. Seriously, the engines in this game are so awful and convoluted and the greed in HUT is so front and center that this series does nothing but dishonor the greatest sport on this planet and the great athletes who play it.

    Please, let it go. Let someone who loves hockey give it a shot. Granted, 2K will probably jump right on it and turn it into an online casino, but at least we'll have a power play that looks like a power play, right? Ugh.
  • Yep! This has ruined my Be a Pro experience. I was getting bored of it anyway due to its repetitiveness and illogical logic (how does having a private conversation with my coach effect my brand?), but I wanted to see where it went and just how much they actually added.

    However, now that I can seemingly go to net at will on any difficulty level, is beyond ridiculous. This game will never be right. No more hashtag fix this or fix that - #EA Stop Making Hockey. Seriously, the engines in this game are so awful and convoluted and the greed in HUT is so front and center that this series does nothing but dishonor the greatest sport on this planet and the great athletes who play it.

    Please, let it go. Let someone who loves hockey give it a shot. Granted, 2K will probably jump right on it and turn it into an online casino, but at least we'll have a power play that looks like a power play, right? Ugh.

    I’m honestly shocked. This game was actually really fun. I was getting pressured and tuned a game on Pro difficulty, PRO, to be difficult and rewarding. Week later, one patch later, I’m skating past the nursing home’s blind wing that was present in NHL 20.

    Unbelievable.
  • > @untouchable_BF1 said:
    > (Quote)
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    > I’m honestly shocked. This game was actually really fun. I was getting pressured and tuned a game on Pro difficulty, PRO, to be difficult and rewarding. Week later, one patch later, I’m skating past the nursing home’s blind wing that was present in NHL 20.
    >
    > Unbelievable.

    Yes, and despite multiple people decrying this issue, the official statement is that "nope" nothing has changed.
  • I hate jumping in on the conspiracy, but I can only speak honestly about my experience. I played the game (offline) when it came out. Was blown away by how difficult it was. All the pressure. Was getting my **** kicked. Loved it. Went to work one day, came home to updates... now I’m blowing by defenders with ease, even after giving the CPU major slider advantages.

    Whether through update or not, it’s something that is currently present in the game (as I’ve documented in the videos) and that I hope they adjust in another update soon.
  • Your doing it wrong. This is suppose to be goal fest 21. Idk why they even have defencemen and goalies this year.
  • Your doing it wrong. This is suppose to be goal fest 21. Idk why they even have defencemen and goalies this year.

    Yep, ornamental at best. Maybe the NHLPA stepped in and said, "Hey EA! NOT having goalies can't be a feature... ya momos! (what's wrong with this company?)".
  • Oslik1000
    473 posts Member
    edited October 2020
    Cote12 wrote: »
    I hate jumping in on the conspiracy, but I can only speak honestly about my experience. I played the game (offline) when it came out. Was blown away by how difficult it was. All the pressure. Was getting my 🎃🎃🎃🎃 kicked. Loved it. Went to work one day, came home to updates... now I’m blowing by defenders with ease, even after giving the CPU major slider advantages.

    Whether through update or not, it’s something that is currently present in the game (as I’ve documented in the videos) and that I hope they adjust in another update soon.

    uninstal game. instal again with cut off your online profile. you need clear game without patch without tuner

    or tomorrow I will issue the nhl20 / nhl21 slider setting where it is eliminated. it works for nhl20 great.
  • After further testing, this seems to be a symptom of the “speed glitch” imo. I’ve had some great games Post-patch with the tuner and patches. The speed glitch makes everything easy and lightning fast, removes the sloppiness and makes pass interception non-existent even at 100/100. The pressure is there, it’s just easy to mitigate when the speed glitch is happening. If that was ever solved, I’m sure many problems would disappear.
  • The comic relief that is EA 21 hockey .......
    This is just one example on reddit ,there are tons of clips like this ,and when I tell them to post it here they say and I quote " what for we post them and either get told they are being looked into and nothing happens or that it's the players mistake " ....any way have a laugh because it's funny how they dumbed down the defensive AI to make the offense more op .....the game is UNBALANCED

    https://www.reddit.com/r/NHLHUT/comments/jhp64o/now_yes_i_couldve_played_a_bit_better_defence_but/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
  • The comic relief that is EA 21 hockey .......
    This is just one example on reddit ,there are tons of clips like this ,and when I tell them to post it here they say and I quote " what for we post them and either get told they are being looked into and nothing happens or that it's the players mistake " ....any way have a laugh because it's funny how they dumbed down the defensive AI to make the offense more op .....the game is UNBALANCED

    https://www.reddit.com/r/NHLHUT/comments/jhp64o/now_yes_i_couldve_played_a_bit_better_defence_but/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

    You are conflating a technical explanation as to why these happen with being told it's "your mistake."

    When they say 'working as intended' - it doesn't mean they believe the way it works is 'real hockey'. It doesn't mean the way it plays out is 'correct'. It doesn't mean the explanation is some kind of representation of real hockey in any way whatsoever - it means that given the current state of the engine, development, console horsepower, etc - this is why it plays out that way.

  • The comic relief that is EA 21 hockey .......
    This is just one example on reddit ,there are tons of clips like this ,and when I tell them to post it here they say and I quote " what for we post them and either get told they are being looked into and nothing happens or that it's the players mistake " ....any way have a laugh because it's funny how they dumbed down the defensive AI to make the offense more op .....the game is UNBALANCED

    https://www.reddit.com/r/NHLHUT/comments/jhp64o/now_yes_i_couldve_played_a_bit_better_defence_but/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

    You are conflating a technical explanation as to why these happen with being told it's "your mistake."

    When they say 'working as intended' - it doesn't mean they believe the way it works is 'real hockey'. It doesn't mean the way it plays out is 'correct'. It doesn't mean the explanation is some kind of representation of real hockey in any way whatsoever - it means that given the current state of the engine, development, console horsepower, etc - this is why it plays out that way.

    Thanks I'll pass on that information
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