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Mr_Darklighter
342 posts Member
edited November 2020
This not GTA, or Fifa, or any other game that doesn't suffer from low populations. So why do we have so many stupid game modes fracturing the already small community???

There is 3s club, drop, 3s arcade, 6s, people playing 2s and 3s in 6s (god knows why this is allowed)... you get the idea.

For the love of god trim this down!

I get it 3s is here to stay, which is extremely unfortunate... but let's just leave it at 3s arcade and be done with it...

Club should be for 6s only. Which SHOULD mean a minimum of 4 players!!!

EA, you have given people too many avenues of play! Far too many! I know more options sound like a good idea but it is NOT.

For multiplayer:

1. 3s arcade (arcadey dumb hockey for those out there that don't want to play real hockey)
2. Club 6s. Minimum 4 players.
3. Drop in
4. Ones, and for gods sake make this available to play with your friends unranked. Absolutely ridiculous that this hasn't been done yet.

Obviously keep HUT and VS for those that strictly play that.

DONE. That's it that's all. Watch the community thrive.

Thanks



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  • This not GTA, or Fifa, or any other game that doesn't suffer from low populations. So why do we have so many stupid game modes fracturing the already small community???

    There is 3s club, drop, 3s arcade, 6s, people playing 2s and 3s in 6s (god knows why this is allowed)... you get the idea.

    For the love of god trim this down!

    I get it 3s is here to stay, which is extremely unfortunate... but let's just leave it at 3s arcade and be done with it...

    Club should be for 6s only. Which SHOULD mean a minimum of 4 players!!!

    EA, you have given people too many avenues of play! Far too many! I know more options sound like a good idea but it is NOT.

    For multiplayer:

    1. 3s arcade (arcadey dumb hockey for those tools out there that don't want to play real hockey)
    2. Club 6s. Minimum 4 players.
    3. Drop in
    4. Ones, and for gods sake make this available to play with your friends unranked. Absolutely ridiculous that this hasn't been done yet.

    Obviously keep HUT and VS for those that strictly play that.

    DONE. That's it that's all. Watch the community thrive.

    Thanks



    Rather than go back and forth in the other thread you posted, I'll just respond here.

    I disagree completely with the minimum of 4 players in club. I'm not sure what you have against clubs with 2 or 3 players, but I would be fine if EA just forced an automatic "match your player" size. That way, clubs with 4+ players aren't being forced to play against a team with less. Unless there is some another reason you are against it. Clubs has been this way since it started back on the old gen systems. Many players like myself prefer doing 2's or 3's because we just don't have the time to try and get 6 people on the same schedule. I don't see why it would be so important to remove this feature.
  • 3's mode is horribly balanced so I'm sticking to 6's; not my fault if a team of 4+ can't beat a pair of buddies.

    I'd wager there are more 2 man teams than 6's so while I do agree there are way too many modes in general, maybe make a 2v2 mode if you absolutely refruse to give the community better matchmaking.

    - No matching out of region
    - No matching against yellow/red bars
    - No matchimg the same team either of you just quit out on
    - Match within certain RP first and then branch out
  • TTZ_Dipsy wrote: »
    3's mode is horribly balanced so I'm sticking to 6's; not my fault if a team of 4+ can't beat a pair of buddies.

    I'd wager there are more 2 man teams than 6's so while I do agree there are way too many modes in general, maybe make a 2v2 mode if you absolutely refruse to give the community better matchmaking.

    - No matching out of region
    - No matching against yellow/red bars
    - No matchimg the same team either of you just quit out on
    - Match within certain RP first and then branch out

    That's the key. If 3+ guys can't beat 2 that is on them.

    Besides, it does have too many game modes
  • This not GTA, or Fifa, or any other game that doesn't suffer from low populations. So why do we have so many stupid game modes fracturing the already small community???

    There is 3s club, drop, 3s arcade, 6s, people playing 2s and 3s in 6s (god knows why this is allowed)... you get the idea.

    For the love of god trim this down!

    I get it 3s is here to stay, which is extremely unfortunate... but let's just leave it at 3s arcade and be done with it...

    Club should be for 6s only. Which SHOULD mean a minimum of 4 players!!!

    EA, you have given people too many avenues of play! Far too many! I know more options sound like a good idea but it is NOT.

    For multiplayer:

    1. 3s arcade (arcadey dumb hockey for those tools out there that don't want to play real hockey)
    2. Club 6s. Minimum 4 players.
    3. Drop in
    4. Ones, and for gods sake make this available to play with your friends unranked. Absolutely ridiculous that this hasn't been done yet.

    Obviously keep HUT and VS for those that strictly play that.

    DONE. That's it that's all. Watch the community thrive.

    Thanks



    Rather than go back and forth in the other thread you posted, I'll just respond here.

    I disagree completely with the minimum of 4 players in club. I'm not sure what you have against clubs with 2 or 3 players, but I would be fine if EA just forced an automatic "match your player" size. That way, clubs with 4+ players aren't being forced to play against a team with less. Unless there is some another reason you are against it. Clubs has been this way since it started back on the old gen systems. Many players like myself prefer doing 2's or 3's because we just don't have the time to try and get 6 people on the same schedule. I don't see why it would be so important to remove this feature.



    I'll say the same thing I've been saying for 6+ years.

    EA could fix this problem, just provide a quick window where you select all the possible numbers of players you will allow your opponents to have. So if you don't want to ever play against 2s or 3s but ok with 5 and 4... ok select that.

    but i agree, can't really constrict people that only have 1 other person to play with.
  • If you have one other person to play with play 3s. Or versus or HUT.

    There are too many people playing 2s in 6s.

    If you want to play 6s hockey but with only 2 players there are other options as mentioned above. Club 6s should not be one of them. Club 6s should be for 4+ players. People who actually create a club. Not a duo.

    And it is totally on EA for putting the focus on anything BUT 6s hockey. There is 3v3 in overtime. That's it. Not full games. Should not be in the game. Make a seperate title. 3s arcade. Download for $20.

    The focus needs to be shifted back to what made this game great in 09. 6s hockey.

    They need to find ways to improve match making, reduce trolling, quitting, and get the community excited to play real 6s hockey again and not this garbage 3s or 2s leaning on the superstar AI.

    Most can agree the game was at it's best from 09-15. Strictly community wise. Yes there were gameplay issues. We had almost everyone playing 6s. Lobbies to find friends and games easily etc..

    Go back to what worked. All this other stuff is nonsense and it is slowly killing the true 6s hockey experience this game can provide.

    Soon you'll only be able to find 6s if you join a league. Already getting close to that point.

    The direction this game has taken the last few years is astonishing. And very regrettable.
  • How do you think is offline player feels lol, we only have 2 “worthwhile” game modes (excluding season mode) in BAP and FM, and they’re always so focused on their multiplayer modes that make them extra cash, that we get shafted and left behind each year. This years release had the worst state I’ve ever seen these game modes be in, in a long time. They are still unplayable even a month after release.
  • I agree,concentrate on a few.Too many right now.
  • TheMajjam
    794 posts Member
    edited November 2020
    A minimum number of players filter would be godly. My team shuns anything under 4. Would be nice to be able to have a way to search for 4+ at one time instead of an exact player size match.

    Playing 2's in 6's is laughable, but to each his own. I personally wouldn't want to deal with perfect pass bots that get puck turnovers just by looking at you. NAH.
  • @Mr_Darklighter

    Unfortunately for you, you aren't the supreme authority who can tell people what game modes they should be playing. Me and my brother play 6's together because A. 3's is trash and B. EA made a game that none of our team buys anymore.

    I'm not playing trash drop-in because of your feelings. I'm not playing any of the other nonsense modes because I like real, actual hockey.

    Either don't play against 2 guys or, famous around here, gIt GuD.

    Thank you.

    EA needs to fix this problem. There's been many suggestions out there. And it needs to be done in game. I hear all the time "oh just join this discord or that forum whatever". Seriously thats ridiculous.

    Either fix drop in system (again MANY good suggestions have been thrown out there that should be easy to put in and fixes like 75% of the problem) or have an in game LFG system for public "club" style gaming. Regardless of what time of day I decide to play I should be able to log in and find 6s games (or even 5s) with other players that at least care about making an attempt to play hockey and lining up against another team like that.

    This is basically what the lobbies became before they got rid of them. It wasn't perfect by any means, it needs a bunch of work to improve it but instead of doing that they scrapped it and never replaced it with anything.

    When I sign on I should be able to enter a pool with possible positions I would be willing to play (check boxes for each one, not like the dumb system they have now). It throws you into dressing rooms where once you have a full team you could start looking for a game. that room allows you to play in a special div of club that is just "public" for randoms. you could join as a group but I think it should be limited to 3 or less although you could stay with same team for next game if you like.

    this would use premade real hockey teams jerseys and arenas like last gen drop in. also to fight off known trolls let the dressing room kick people with a majority vote. i don't usually like that but in a system like this i think it could work. the kicked person would just go back into pool and find another game (if they are so bad that everyone kicks them, good system works). of course there are many ways to fight trolling and EA refuses to do anything about it. Ignoring it, like it isn't the BIGGEST issue this game has had for 5-6 years. So much more could be said. Of course I'm wasting my breath as EA has shown time and time again they are not interested in thinking outside the box of "working on gameplay" to make this game better.


    I've played 6s for over a decade. I've done it all from years of drops, to years of playing lots of club with friends for enjoyment to leagues to joining "elite" clubs that flip out when you lose that first game. i've had plenty of good times but overall the experience is blah. drop ins turned into trash and everything else is a chore, even casual gaming with friends. just the fact that I have to stop my life to play at roughly the same time of day all the time or I have to build a huge list of friends and spend the night getting spammed (or spamming others) looking to fill spots makes it unenjoyable. All of this works fine for some but not the majority.

    lol what a waste of time this rant was. they will never do anything to change this. oh well sometimes you just have to vent to stay sane.
  • No need for the rude remarks.

    I'm simply stating that the game used to be more conducive to 5s and 6s, and systems were in place (lobbies) to make match-making easier.

    Now we don't have lobbies, and have a diluted game with too many game modes that is hindering what I and many people feel is the greatest part of this game: 5s/6s.

    The game should be promoting team play and multiplayer, utilizing all players on the ice. Not moving away from it.






  • I think 2s should be allowed but the AI should be nerfed to encourage them to find full teams. Take away the call for pass, get rid of all of the bonuses that AI players get over human controlled players.... Basically remove any incentive that players currently have to actively not ice a full team.
  • I think 2s should be allowed but the AI should be nerfed to encourage them to find full teams. Take away the call for pass, get rid of all of the bonuses that AI players get over human controlled players.... Basically remove any incentive that players currently have to actively not ice a full team.

    Agreed. I've stated in another thread that the AI replacements are overpowered. I read someone else saying that clubs will do this intentionally. Have a defender drop and get replaced by an AI.

    It happens in drop in all the time. Teams in the lead getting punished for going up a couple goals only to have the AI come back rather easily.

    AI should be lower in difficulty to promote actual multiplayer.
  • I think 2s should be allowed but the AI should be nerfed to encourage them to find full teams. Take away the call for pass, get rid of all of the bonuses that AI players get over human controlled players.... Basically remove any incentive that players currently have to actively not ice a full team.

    Agreed. I've stated in another thread that the AI replacements are overpowered. I read someone else saying that clubs will do this intentionally. Have a defender drop and get replaced by an AI.

    It happens in drop in all the time. Teams in the lead getting punished for going up a couple goals only to have the AI come back rather easily.

    AI should be lower in difficulty to promote actual multiplayer.

    this is subjective. I think most better than average players are WAY better than the AI. To me AI is helpful when replacing bad players/trolls. AI defenders are basically pylons and offensive players aren't as bad but they are pretty awful at positioning.
  • I think 2s should be allowed but the AI should be nerfed to encourage them to find full teams. Take away the call for pass, get rid of all of the bonuses that AI players get over human controlled players.... Basically remove any incentive that players currently have to actively not ice a full team.

    Agreed. I've stated in another thread that the AI replacements are overpowered. I read someone else saying that clubs will do this intentionally. Have a defender drop and get replaced by an AI.

    It happens in drop in all the time. Teams in the lead getting punished for going up a couple goals only to have the AI come back rather easily.

    AI should be lower in difficulty to promote actual multiplayer.

    this is subjective. I think most better than average players are WAY better than the AI. To me AI is helpful when replacing bad players/trolls. AI defenders are basically pylons and offensive players aren't as bad but they are pretty awful at positioning.

    I agree somewhat but if you are ever stuck playing against nearly a full team of them, and a skater or two who know to just sit back and let them do their thing, they are capable of doing things not even the best human players can achieve.

    When there are one or two AI, certainly they are quite bad positional. But once they get some AI teammates they basically cheat mechanics and if you have a human goalie you might as well chalk it up to a loss.
  • I think 2s should be allowed but the AI should be nerfed to encourage them to find full teams. Take away the call for pass, get rid of all of the bonuses that AI players get over human controlled players.... Basically remove any incentive that players currently have to actively not ice a full team.

    Agreed. I've stated in another thread that the AI replacements are overpowered. I read someone else saying that clubs will do this intentionally. Have a defender drop and get replaced by an AI.

    It happens in drop in all the time. Teams in the lead getting punished for going up a couple goals only to have the AI come back rather easily.

    AI should be lower in difficulty to promote actual multiplayer.

    this is subjective. I think most better than average players are WAY better than the AI. To me AI is helpful when replacing bad players/trolls. AI defenders are basically pylons and offensive players aren't as bad but they are pretty awful at positioning.

    I agree somewhat but if you are ever stuck playing against nearly a full team of them, and a skater or two who know to just sit back and let them do their thing, they are capable of doing things not even the best human players can achieve.

    When there are one or two AI, certainly they are quite bad positional. But once they get some AI teammates they basically cheat mechanics and if you have a human goalie you might as well chalk it up to a loss.

    yeah let me play center with 4 AI and definitely much better than typical dropins lol
  • I don't play 6's anymore since the player models are too large and there is very little room on the ice to be found.
  • pghkev wrote: »
    I don't play 6's anymore since the player models are too large and there is very little room on the ice to be found.

    I feel the real issue about no space in 6v6 games is that the acceleration is too high all around. Especially when you compare it with the slowness of receiving the puck or loading up a slap shot etc.

    Ok, so they raised the passing speed (which were way too slow last year, and now they seem a little too fast), but that didn't really help. While they puck goes faster on ice, the time it takes to make a pass or shot is fairly slow still. Instead of cranking everything up, I'd like to see the game slowing down more, especially acceleration, and hustling around from complete stand-still. This is about EASHL 6v6 more than anything, I am not that interested in other modes, because they're more or less pointless for various reasons. IMHO, of course.
  • If you're signing up for a 6v6 mode then you aren't looking to play with AI and shouldn't have to. I won't even get into the myriad of reason why playing the ai sucks.

    Your number of players should determine your game mode. 3 or less, congrats, you're in 3's.

    But as the op said, yes there are far too many game modes splitting up a small player base. EA needs to make a much better game to bring in new players and bring old players back or they need to trim the fat. I would kill 3's eliminator and 1's for a start, but that's just me.
  • IceLion68
    920 posts Member
    edited November 2020
    jrago73 wrote: »
    I would kill 3's eliminator and 1's for a start, but that's just me.

    The downside to this is that then the worst idiots from Eliminator will end up in your 6s games, making everyone else miserable with their "I will play how I want" attitude.

    Dad. Gamer. Rocker. Geek.
  • AI should be nerfed to encourage players to find full teams! That will solve the problem definitely! We do not want god-like bots destroying the game completely every single time!
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