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Easter event or donuts?

Which is the best thing to do? - save up my donuts incase there is an easter event, or use them to build up my % bonus? Mmmmm :/

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  • How much cash and space do you have?
  • There'll always be another event, Easter or otherwise.
    Next up will be a 1 act mini-event of about 2 weeks duration, then another 4 act 6 ish week job with or without a week off in between for designing.
    Rinse and repeat ad infinitum.
    So the simple answer is: Until your donut income rate exceeds the cost of all the new premium content per event then you work on your bonus %.
    It's difficult to quantify that exactly cos it depends on how much of the returning content you have each act & not all events have the same amount of new stuff either, but I'd suggest a weekly income of at least 100 - 200 bonuts would be a good rule of thumb as the tipping point.

  • Agreed, build that bonus :)
  • wadebear
    4053 posts Member
    edited March 10
    I'd suggest a weekly income of at least 100 - 200 bonuts would be a good rule of thumb as the tipping point.
    100 - 200 A WEEK? In my #4 game I'm generating 150 donuts a DAY and every event nearly bankrupts me.
    A bonus of 1234% in your first goal. That's reasonable. 1900% is Superior. 2400% is Excellent. And the really nice thing is that the higher your bonus is the faster you can push it up. It took me about 3 months to go from 600+ to 1234. After that it was just smooth sailing up the tiers (tiers being defined by how many KEMs it takes to get Bonuts).
    Here's a quick guide:
    • KEMs --- Bonus
    • 1 - - - - - - 9900.00%
    • 2 - - - - - 4900.00%
    • 3 - - - - - 3233.33%
    • 4 - - - - - 2400.00%
    • 5 - - - - - 1900.00%
    • 6 - - - - - 1566.67%
    • 7 - - - - - 1328.57%
    • 8 - - - - - 1150.00%
    • 9 - - - - - 1011.11%
    • 10 - - - - - 900.00%
    • 11 - - - - - 809.09%
    • 12 - - - - - 733.33%
    • 13 - - - - - 669.23%
    • 14 - - - - - 614.29%
  • 1-Graham-S
    320 posts Member
    edited March 10
    Following on from what @TheRealTiminator said . . .
    A typical event now is 5 weeks and 4 premium items, usually 150 Ds each, and a week off.
    A typical mini event is 2 weeks and one 150 D item.
    You also need to keep feeding the collider - 150 Ds gets 60 days and a multi event with a 1 week break and a mini event straight after is 56 days ( 8 weeks ).
    To get all the usual stuff without any returning content you'd need 900 donuts in 8 weeks.
    That's 112 per week and a couple of daily challenge sprinkles.
    Getting your bonus up to a state where you're past that means you can start getting YearBook items and returning content too.
    If you're close to earning that but not quite try and set aside 175 Ds or so - 1 event item and a collider feed. You'd need to have some sprinkles saved to make those numbers work anyway, 5 weeks at 112 a week is only 560 Ds so you'd need to start an event with at least weeks worth in the bank and probably a week or more left on the collider.
    Bonus is king though, until earning becomes easy, so if it takes a while still to earn those sprinkles go blast through as many Burns Boxes as you can for News Vans and Billboards, and watch for Jet Engine Bikes in the vault. Good luck
    You'll often find me on Brooders tapped-out.co.uk
  • Thanks @wadebear and @1-Graham-S for doing the maths to put my ideas into context.
    But wow! @wadebear, you're blowing through over 1000 donuts per week 😱 you must have a serious amount of returning content for that, I'm guessing that's a reasonably new game, which I guess makes sense if it's your #4.
    Probably the best strategy for a game at that stage would be to ignore the new content and just grab the returning stuff cos it's always cheaper and then grab all the new stuff that you've passed on for a cut price when it returns.
    So many different permutations of income, bonus, age of game etc, it's always one of those "how long is a piece of string?" questions.

  • Thanks for all that. My %bonus is almost 1600% and I'm farming 100 kems every 4 hours, which gives around 200 donuts a day.
    I have plenty of game money and thanks to my golden goose realtor I have loads of land to build on. I thought it would be nice to have a pot full of donuts ready for an event.
    I've bought burns mystery boxes before, and just seem to get rubbish.
  • 1-Graham-S
    320 posts Member
    edited March 11
    At 200 Ds a day why not save maybe 3 days worth or so and that's a multi-event paid for. After that just keep on with the bonus until there's new content to spend the banked sprinkles on, at which point replace what you've spent and then start back on your bonus.
    I forget where it is on here, but there's a breakdown of the vault content so you can get an idea when you'll get JEBs or mini-nukes next. Even though Burns boxes are great value for the bonus per donuts it can get to be a drag going through the cycle to get the good stuff and dump the rest.
    ( There's 3 or 4 junk items each cycle then donuts and bonus and maybe a Lard Lad to end what is typically a cycle of 7 items. Just store the junk and go sell it later. You only need 32 Ds to guarantee getting all the items from any of the cycle variations and it averages out at about 8 Ds for 1% )
    If you know there's something you'd want a batch of coming up in the vault save for a load over a few weeks where you can, as well as thinking about slowly emptying the YearBook.
    Not only are they bargain items in that, there's stuff with bonus as well as stuff that earns XP and cash and it will also mean you won't get quite so much returning content throughout an event or in another misery box, and that makes it easier to decide where your sprinkles are needed.
    You'll often find me on Brooders tapped-out.co.uk
  • pigsick57 wrote: »
    Thanks for all that. My %bonus is almost 1600% and I'm farming 100 kems every 4 hours, which gives around 200 donuts a day.
    I have plenty of game money and thanks to my golden goose realtor I have loads of land to build on. I thought it would be nice to have a pot full of donuts ready for an event.
    I've bought burns mystery boxes before, and just seem to get rubbish.

    If you're getting 200 donuts each day why do you even have to worry about saving donuts for the next event?
  • Not worried personally. It was just a general discussion point for other players who maybe don't have lots of donuts. Also interested in other players tactics for the game, to improve mine
  • wadebear
    4053 posts Member
    But wow! wadebear, you're blowing through over 1000 donuts per week 😱 you must have a serious amount of returning content for that, I'm guessing that's a reasonably new game, which I guess makes sense if it's your #4.
    I'm buying everything available from the events. I never used to be able to afford anything, then I could get maybe one item per event... Now I get it ALL! >:)>:)>:)
  • wadebear
    4053 posts Member
    pigsick57 wrote: »
    Thanks for all that. My %bonus is almost 1600% and I'm farming 100 kems every 4 hours, which gives around 200 donuts a day.
    Uh... By my calculations if you should be bringing in 486 donuts a day.
    Are you doing 5 rounds of KEMs per day or just 4?
    Are you buying 2nd and 3rd chances on the boxes? Because it's cheaper and faster that way.
    With a multiplier of 1900% -
    If I do 5 rounds of 36 KEMs per day and tap all my building payouts every 4 hours and send all my characters on 4 hour tasks - well that was getting me 150 donuts.
    Now that I have God I just do his 24 hour task, clear the buildings once a day, do 5 rounds of 36 KEMs and finish off with some Rat Trap Trucks to get 150.
  • 1-Graham-S
    320 posts Member
    edited March 12
    @wadebear - It's not necessarily cheaper to retry, and usually a lot slower, but because KEMs take time before you can collect it usually makes sense to get the maximum return if you can afford it - at least to me.
    I did the maths a while back and since forgot, but there comes a point, particularly with trucks, where the cost of placing more is less than the cost of retries based on average luck. Somewhere I've got the bonus needed where the costs equal out and it makes no difference in IGC, just time taken.
    If you put down enough for 30 rounds in theory you get 10 of each 1, 2 and 3 sprinkle boxes first time, 60 Ds averaging out to 2 sprinkles a round. In theory with retries it's the same - 10 each of 1, 2 or 3 taps for the 3 Ds making an average of 2 taps a go. That means you would have spent $1.5 mil on retries for an extra 30 Ds - so if the 60 Ds cost less than $3 mil just buy more trucks.
    ( My luck isn't quite that good, I typically get 54 Ds from 30 tries - oh well !! )
    I also play it different between collecting and farming, and between my A and B towns. My A town is huge, max cash and a ridiculous number of sprinkles so when I collect it's always go for 3 but if I farm it's whatever I find first box and save time. In my B town it depends on mood, but collecting and KEMs are always hunt the 3 because I'm working towards items or targets, at least for now, and for trucks it's can I be bothered now my bonus is coming on nicely.
    Last B town truck blast was 30 trucks giving 300 Ds in a little over ten minutes rather than probably 20 minutes for closer to 480 Ds and likely taking the cost from just over $3 mil to over $10 mil when I'm a week or so away from reaching the first $1 billion IGC.
    Then again it's always a personal choice, there is no right or wrong way to tap. Play the game in a way that suits you and makes you happy is the best answer.
    You'll often find me on Brooders tapped-out.co.uk
  • I usually get 4 rounds of 100 kems a day, and always go for 3 donuts each time, using up to 3 chances sometimes. Although I seem to be pretty lucky and can guess which is the 3 box.
    I sometimes buy the trucks if I need to get a few extra for something if I haven't saved up.
  • 1-Graham-S wrote: »
    @wadebear - It's not necessarily cheaper to retry, and usually a lot slower, but because KEMs take time before you can collect it usually makes sense to get the maximum return if you can afford it - at least to me.
    I did the maths a while back and since forgot, but there comes a point, particularly with trucks, where the cost of placing more is less than the cost of retries based on average luck. Somewhere I've got the bonus needed where the costs equal out and it makes no difference in IGC, just time taken.
    If you put down enough for 30 rounds in theory you get 10 of each 1, 2 and 3 sprinkle boxes first time, 60 Ds averaging out to 2 sprinkles a round. In theory with retries it's the same - 10 each of 1, 2 or 3 taps for the 3 Ds making an average of 2 taps a go. That means you would have spent $1.5 mil on retries for an extra 30 Ds - so if the 60 Ds cost less than $3 mil just buy more trucks.
    ( My luck isn't quite that good, I typically get 54 Ds from 30 tries - oh well !! )
    I also play it different between collecting and farming, and between my A and B towns. My A town is huge, max cash and a ridiculous number of sprinkles so when I collect it's always go for 3 but if I farm it's whatever I find first box and save time. In my B town it depends on mood, but collecting and KEMs are always hunt the 3 because I'm working towards items or targets, at least for now, and for trucks it's can I be bothered now my bonus is coming on nicely.
    Last B town truck blast was 30 trucks giving 300 Ds in a little over ten minutes rather than probably 20 minutes for closer to 480 Ds and likely taking the cost from just over $3 mil to over $10 mil when I'm a week or so away from reaching the first $1 billion IGC.
    Then again it's always a personal choice, there is no right or wrong way to tap. Play the game in a way that suits you and makes you happy is the best answer.

    Use the Kem Calculator if you want to find the most cost effective way to farm
    http://lwshost.com/tsto/kemcalc.pl
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  • 1-Graham-S
    320 posts Member
    edited March 12
    There is an in-between strategy that's pretty good on time and value, from a quick look not quite as included in that calculator . . .
    Using the same average luck numbers as before, 30 goes getting 10 x 1D, 10 x 2Ds and 10 x 3Ds but this time if you get the one donut box have one retry and collect whatever that gives.
    In theory then it's 5 x 2 and 5 x 3, 25 Ds instead of just 10, as well as the 50 Ds from the other 20 boxes. 10 retries costs only half a mil IGC, so if your trucks cost $2mil then each 15 donuts cost half a mil anyway as did the extra from retries.
    It takes about 2 minutes to rattle through 30 rounds when I farm and 10 retries takes about an extra 30 seconds, so it's 30 seconds for 15 Ds either way without thinking of the time it takes to place and sell the trucks. The cost is minimal even if a batch costs less than $2 mil and it is faster because you'd get from 4 batches what it would otherwise take 5 batches to get, saving the place and sell time of a batch :)
    You'll often find me on Brooders tapped-out.co.uk
  • All the above makes my head spin. I’m glad I have all 5 of my games at max cash so when I need donuts for events I sell and buy back Krusty’s oil rig. Since I only play events now and have all the old content I care for, that’s good enough (I lose fewer donuts to crashing with rat trap trucks).
  • Talking about the oil rig, do you get donuts for selling it or something?
  • 1-Graham-S
    320 posts Member
    edited March 13
    @pigsick57 you get 80,00 XP + collider and bonus for an $8 mil spend on an oil rig. Collect the sprinkles for however may bonut rounds that gets you then sell it to get $2 mil back and start again,
    There are other high value deccies some also use, but it's a tenth of the XP per $ compared to trucks. ( you'd get about the same XP from only 6 Bloodmobiles )
    If cash doesn't matter give it a go and make your own mind up.
    Bear in mind too that Bart can foul up anything that tips your XP counter over 2 million ( or 2 levels worth if you're not at level 939 ), meaning all you'd get is an apology bonut round and a counter reset to zero !!
    You'll often find me on Brooders tapped-out.co.uk
  • pigsick57 wrote: »
    Talking about the oil rig, do you get donuts for selling it or something?

    Yes. Selling and buying the oil rig is a very good option only if you are at the cash limit and you do not have a lot of time. It is faster than rat trucks or blood mobile farming but you get less donuts.
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