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  • ink19810
    616 posts
    edited May 2014
    in before the lock
  • neuroheart
    8132 posts Member
    edited May 2014
    Ratman5674 wrote:
    What are you saying about my EA
    Irishlad is just expressing an opinion. You better respect it.
  • jbondra
    204 posts
    edited May 2014
    Yeah, because a business model should be to lose money :roll:
  • irishladsoca
    398 posts Member
    edited May 2014
    Ratman5674 wrote:
    What are you saying about my EA
    they have taken a 19th century business model and updated it to the 21st century
    and this is what they used page by page
    kgPItc1.jpg

  • Ratman5674
    888 posts
    edited May 2014
    Ratman5674 wrote:
    What are you saying about my EA
    they have taken a 19th century business model and updated it to the 21st century
    and this is what they used page by page
    kgPItc1.jpg
    I'm just kidding you know me and EA are having babies now. Other person who was rude it was a joke.
  • teo47
    944 posts Member
    edited May 2014
    If EA is making a lot of money off of this game, good for them! Most of us want to make as much money as we can in life. If your employer offered you a raise, would you decline? No way! Corporations are no different, they'll take your money if you're willing to give it to them. If you give out everything for free, you go out of business. There have been mistakes made in the implementation of this event in my opinion, but the fact that you need to spend donuts to get all of the prizes (unless you're incredibly lucky) is not one of those mistakes.
    New neighbors always welcome!
  • irishladsoca
    398 posts Member
    edited May 2014
    jbondra wrote:
    Yeah, because a business model should be to lose money :roll:
    They were making money hand over fist before they decided to change up the game with the chance wheels/boxes. There was no need for them to change a thing, in fact if they didn't, most who are complaining would still be happily handing over their money, but they let greed get in the way and now those who never thought twice about buying donuts are thinking twice about buying donuts. They were never in danger of losing money leaving the game the way it was, but now? short term gain perhaps at the cost of long term lose
  • neuroheart
    8132 posts Member
    edited May 2014
    Ratman5674 wrote:
    Other person who was rude it was a joke.
    Ah, yes. I'm rude, but you're joking. Classic troll defense tactic when your own words are used against you. Next you'll be claiming the sky is pink or somesuch, but no wait you were only joking. I've seen this movie before, I know how it ends.
  • drumnman
    1475 posts Member
    edited May 2014
    In before neuro's Android screengrab! ;)
  • Ratman5674
    888 posts
    edited May 2014
    neuroheart wrote:
    Ratman5674 wrote:
    Other person who was rude it was a joke.
    Ah, yes. I'm rude, but you're joking. Classic troll defense tactic when your own words are used against you. Next you'll be claiming the sky is pink or somesuch, but no wait you were only joking. I've seen this movie before, I know how it ends.
    Me and the op had a nice chat in my other thread about it and we had a joke with each other. You do twitter?
  • cogitoergosum8
    455 posts
    edited May 2014
    teo47 wrote:
    If EA is making a lot of money off of this game, good for them! Most of us want to make as much money as we can in life. If your employer offered you a raise, would you decline? No way! Corporations are no different, they'll take your money if you're willing to give it to them. If you give out everything for free, you go out of business. There have been mistakes made in the implementation of this event in my opinion, but the fact that you need to spend donuts to get all of the prizes (unless you're incredibly lucky) is not one of those mistakes.

    I have to disagree. Yes, making money is great. As a libertarian, I believe strongly in the free market. However, there is a limit to how much a company should take advantage of its customers. TSTO was never advertised as a gambling game. Yes, the product description says "SIMULATED gambling", which is not the same as actual gambling with real money. To get to my point, I think it's bad for business in the long run to implement gambling into the game. Most TSTO players are not looking to gamble with their money, nor are they used to it being a feature of this game. This will pay off in the immediate future for EA, but in my opinion, the increase in profits will be short-lived. People are wising up to the horrible odds in this event and it's made a lot of us premium players, who used to gladly throw tons of cash at EA, rethink our spending. That's not good for business. If companies followed your logic to its natural end, there would be massive price gouging. Good business is about balancing profit with customer satisfaction. If your only concern is making the biggest profit possible, but your customers are dissatisfied, you'll soon find yourself without customers and without profit. EA is playing a dangerous game with these gambling events. That's just my take on it. I don't think that this is a good long-term business strategy.

    edit: typos
  • cogitoergosum8
    455 posts
    edited May 2014
    teo47 wrote:
    If EA is making a lot of money off of this game, good for them! Most of us want to make as much money as we can in life. If your employer offered you a raise, would you decline? No way! Corporations are no different, they'll take your money if you're willing to give it to them. If you give out everything for free, you go out of business. There have been mistakes made in the implementation of this event in my opinion, but the fact that you need to spend donuts to get all of the prizes (unless you're incredibly lucky) is not one of those mistakes.

    Another point that I forgot to make in my other post was that nobody is asking for anything for free. We premium players who have spent hundreds of donuts for absolutely nothing premium are clearly willing to spend money. The problem is that we're spending a lot of money and getting nothing in return. It's EA who wants the free ride. You've got it backwards. I have NO problem forking out cash to this game, but I want something in return. That is the most basic rule of economics.
  • irishladsoca
    398 posts Member
    edited May 2014
    teo47 wrote:
    If EA is making a lot of money off of this game, good for them! Most of us want to make as much money as we can in life. If your employer offered you a raise, would you decline? No way! Corporations are no different, they'll take your money if you're willing to give it to them. If you give out everything for free, you go out of business. There have been mistakes made in the implementation of this event in my opinion, but the fact that you need to spend donuts to get all of the prizes (unless you're incredibly lucky) is not one of those mistakes.
    of course they do and of course I would, but they took what was/is a money making machine, tweaked it to the point it's just a blatant attempt to grab as much as possible...ok, good for them if it works. but it comes at the expense of losing long term money paying players who would have gladly kept on giving the 100+ million a year. And it sux the life ruiningly fun right outta the game. I guess 100 million+ yrly wasn't enough
  • irishladsoca
    398 posts Member
    edited May 2014
    Ratman5674 wrote:
    neuroheart wrote:
    Ratman5674 wrote:
    Other person who was rude it was a joke.
    Ah, yes. I'm rude, but you're joking. Classic troll defense tactic when your own words are used against you. Next you'll be claiming the sky is pink or somesuch, but no wait you were only joking. I've seen this movie before, I know how it ends.
    Me and the op had a nice chat in my other thread about it and we had a joke with each other. You do twitter?
    I did convince the rat to finally get the bat off his chest and replace it with a black smudge
  • irishladsoca
    398 posts Member
    edited May 2014
    neuroheart wrote:
    Ratman5674 wrote:
    What are you saying about my EA
    Irishlad is just expressing an opinion. You better respect it.
    awww ty :)
  • neuroheart
    8132 posts Member
    edited May 2014
    Ratman5674 wrote:
    You do twitter?
    8ZcI0T9.gif
  • AJtheboss1
    3869 posts Member
    edited May 2014
    neuroheart wrote:
    Ratman5674 wrote:
    What are you saying about my EA
    Irishlad is just expressing an opinion. You better respect it.
    Haha! :thumbup:
    "The **** of the future will be the anti-****."
  • irishladsoca
    398 posts Member
    edited May 2014
    neuroheart wrote:
    Ratman5674 wrote:
    You do twitter?
    8ZcI0T9.gif
    :thumbup: LMAO
  • Ratman5674
    888 posts
    edited May 2014
    neuroheart wrote:
    Ratman5674 wrote:
    You do twitter?
    8ZcI0T9.gif
    Yes
  • teo47
    944 posts Member
    edited May 2014
    teo47 wrote:
    If EA is making a lot of money off of this game, good for them! Most of us want to make as much money as we can in life. If your employer offered you a raise, would you decline? No way! Corporations are no different, they'll take your money if you're willing to give it to them. If you give out everything for free, you go out of business. There have been mistakes made in the implementation of this event in my opinion, but the fact that you need to spend donuts to get all of the prizes (unless you're incredibly lucky) is not one of those mistakes.

    I have to disagree. Yes, making money is great. As a libertarian, I believe strongly in the free market. However, there is a limit to how much a company should take advantage of its customers. TSTO was never advertised as a gambling game. Yes, the product description says "SIMULATED gambling", which is not the same as actual gambling with real money. To get to my point, I think it's bad for business in the long run to implement gambling into the game. Most TSTO players are not looking to gamble with their money, nor are they used to it being a feature of this game. This will pay off in the immediate future for EA, but in my opinion, the increase in profits will be short-lived. People are wising up to the horrible odds in this event and it's made a lot of us premium players, who used to gladly throw tons of cash at EA, rethink our spending. That's not good for business. If companies followed your logic to its natural end, there would be massive price gouging. Good business is about balancing profit with customer satisfaction. If your only concern is making the biggest profit possible, but your customers are dissatisfied, you'll soon find yourself without customers and without profit. EA is playing a dangerous game with these gambling events. That's just my take on it. I don't think that this is a good long-term business strategy.

    I guess we will see if it's bad for business in the long run to implement the chance/gambling aspect into the game. Perhaps EA should have gone with the same strategy they used with the Faberge egg and made the Easter prizes available for a fixed number of donuts as well as available by chance through the box system. That way you'd at least know exactly how many donuts you'd need to spend to get prizes X, Y, and Z instead of spending an unknown amount of donuts to buy enough eggs to get them through random spins. Personally I haven't been upset with the gambling aspect of the game, as I've received several of the good prizes through eggs I have purchased and realized the risks going in - yes, I've also gotten a lot of extra stuff I didn't want (yay for 15 beach towels). I also don't view it as EA taking advantage of its customers because EA isn't requiring customers to participate in the chance/gambling aspect of the game if they don't want to except as a free 'simulated gambling' game as is advertised. This is no different from Kwik-e-Mart scratch tickets or Springfield Downs except you're winning objects and characters instead of in-game money.

    I also think that the behavior of players as a whole is probably vastly different from the tiny subset of players who post on this message board. People complaining on a message board likely has no significant impact on the overall spending patterns of the entire game playing community as a whole. I bet there are a whole lot of premium players who don't post here who are happily tapping away, not really caring that they aren't going to get all of the Easter prizes, spending the same amounts of money they always would on the game.
    New neighbors always welcome!
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