How the hell do you translate what Wijsheid is saying? :x :shock:
@Annette, about Wilki - a few people suggested I was the protector in the last game (which I was) and somehow and for whatever reason the villains never targeted me! Maybe so it could still look like I could be a villain? I don't know!
On the other hand, maybe Wilki IS a villain and thats how he survived? But for some reason I believe that he is the protector (and made it really obvious lol - silly Wilki! :P )
You say a few people suggested you were the protector. Wilki was the one this time. It was no "suggestion" ... Here's the quote. I am putting the pertinent phrases in red font.
People! I go to b3d and i have 4 votes against me! Please, if you vote me out, its a massive mistake and the villains are laughing. I can look after you.! Im not allowed to reveal my identity, but lets just say voting me out is almost as bad as voting lisa in the firstt game - we all havwe different gameplay styles, and yeah, mine might be steamrolling, but there are villains out there trying to grt away. Im going out today, so will be unable to defend myself further, but you can probably deduce my character from that peice, which puts me in the clear. So please, i might be suspicious, but im innocent, so you are wasting a vote. Please listen to me and vote out someone else, as i am so worried im gonna lose his game again, i wnjoy it b i reallu wanna be on the winning team.
That's not a "suggestion". That's a proclamation. Not made by "a few people", which could have left lingering doubt, but by the person himself. He made it at the moment he was being voted off. Leaving the self-acclaimed Protector in place means that the villain team from last night would risk that their target would be the same person wilki(who last night desperately wanted us to believe he is the Protector ) was shielding. Which means forfeiting a kill. Last time, the villains were not being hunted down every alternate night by a second pair of villains. This time, every single kill counts. If they had great suspicion, for instance, that Joe Blow was a rival villain, and chose to kill him, they risked having wilki (who last night desperately wanted us to believe he is the Protector) cancel that kill. Joe Blow lives. The Protector lives to screw them over again.
The Protector is the one Springfielder that can do that, right?
If these villains are trying to manipulate us to believe wilki is a villain ... Well ... They've convinced ME. I'm sure wilki won't take it personally. He drew his assignment by chance. He would feel the same responsibility as I do.
Sorry wilki. I know you're a good person in real life. But your blatant words yesterday are just impossible to ignore. At best, you were incredibly foolish. I said nothing against you yesterday. But I can't risk leaving good Springfielders at risk. it makes absolutely no sense that you survived the night.
++wilki1999
You know what annette, im as confused as you and the rest of the springfielders. But i am Police Chief Clancy Wiggum, and i am playing the protector in this game. Vote me out if you want, but i am supposed to stop people from dying, not kill them myself. And i probably am foolish, butbi think that he villains who killed last night did not acknowledge me as they knew they would seem suspicious. In atual fact, we can probably look at the people who have not taken any notice of me, and they are two possibke villains, and two possible reasons as to why i survived the night. So vote me out. You know who i am, but i only tried to save myself, if i dont get killed by you lot, the villains are gonna kill me in the night anyway, so you may as well not bother wasting your votes on a dead man. I think we should focus on some of he people who have focused in oj me, like wijsheid as a syspect because i feel tlike he is a villain. So now you know my whole life story in this game. Question it if you want, but that is who i am.
Ok, I've had a little more coffee and some time to think some things through. These are some ideas that are currently floating around in my head. Forgive me if this is long-winded.
First- I'm not sure that JBlue was the actual target last night. Looking back over post history, they only ever expressed interest in Timescola, who we now know was one of the Springfielders. I don't see anything to indicate that they might be on a villain's radar, which says to me that JBlue's offense might have been being the one unlucky enough to stand behind the coward. Now, Wjsheid did confess to being the coward, but I'm fairly certain it was tongue in cheek. (You do not have to worry about defending yourself right now! If nothing else, I haven't found a website that will translate your code for me, and after doing one of them by hand, I'm over it ) Which is all to say- it might be worth considering that the villains' target was also the coward.
And now comes the really complicated part. PLEASE NOTE THAT EVERYTHING I SAY BELOW IS PART OF A THOUGHT EXERCISE, AND NOT AN ADMISSION OF GUILT. I am trying to put myself in the villains' heads to get one step ahead of them, I am not in cahoots with the bad guys!
For me, the biggest question is: from a villainous perspective, does it make more sense to immediately target the other villain team, or to go for Springfielders first? Both bad guy teams need to meet two conditions to win: the other bad guy team needs to die, and all but 2 Springfielders need to die. It seems to me like targeting SFers first would achieve 2 goals: (1)it keeps another team of people around to help with the killing of innocents, and (2) it allows for the possibility that the SFers might vote off the other villain team for you. Now, the danger in this of course is that the SFers could also potentially become suspicious and vote you off, so there's a risk there. So plan A- try to kill the other villains first and then take your time picking off the SFers is one option. But there's also plan B- ride it out and let the other players do some of the hard work for you while you slide under the radar.
The reason all of this mumbledy guck is important, is because it is one possible explanation for why Wilki alluded to his role as the protector and then didn't die in the night. If the villains are going for the strategy of "let other people do some of their dirty work and then swoop in and win" discussed above, then leaving Wilki alive is actually kind of brilliant. It buys both teams of villains an entire day, suspicion free, while we're running around in circles trying to figure out why they passed up the obvious choice of killing the protector.
Is this making sense to anyone else? I feel like when I started this novella I had a much clearer sense of where I was going with it, but now I've maybe talked myself in a circle?
Tl;dr- these are something things I've been thinking about. Either villain team A is not all that saavy, or they're evil geniuses and we all need to up our game to stay alive.
How the hell do you translate what Wijsheid is saying? :x :shock:
@Annette, about Wilki - a few people suggested I was the protector in the last game (which I was) and somehow and for whatever reason the villains never targeted me! Maybe so it could still look like I could be a villain? I don't know!
On the other hand, maybe Wilki IS a villain and thats how he survived? But for some reason I believe that he is the protector (and made it really obvious lol - silly Wilki! :P )
You say a few people suggested you were the protector. Wilki was the one this time. It was no "suggestion" ... Here's the quote. I am putting the pertinent phrases in red font.
People! I go to b3d and i have 4 votes against me! Please, if you vote me out, its a massive mistake and the villains are laughing. I can look after you.! Im not allowed to reveal my identity, but lets just say voting me out is almost as bad as voting lisa in the firstt game - we all havwe different gameplay styles, and yeah, mine might be steamrolling, but there are villains out there trying to grt away. Im going out today, so will be unable to defend myself further, but you can probably deduce my character from that peice, which puts me in the clear. So please, i might be suspicious, but im innocent, so you are wasting a vote. Please listen to me and vote out someone else, as i am so worried im gonna lose his game again, i wnjoy it b i reallu wanna be on the winning team.
That's not a "suggestion". That's a proclamation. Not made by "a few people", which could have left lingering doubt, but by the person himself. He made it at the moment he was being voted off. Leaving the self-acclaimed Protector in place means that the villain team from last night would risk that their target would be the same person wilki(who last night desperately wanted us to believe he is the Protector ) was shielding. Which means forfeiting a kill. Last time, the villains were not being hunted down every alternate night by a second pair of villains. This time, every single kill counts. If they had great suspicion, for instance, that Joe Blow was a rival villain, and chose to kill him, they risked having wilki (who last night desperately wanted us to believe he is the Protector) cancel that kill. Joe Blow lives. The Protector lives to screw them over again.
The Protector is the one Springfielder that can do that, right?
If these villains are trying to manipulate us to believe wilki is a villain ... Well ... They've convinced ME. I'm sure wilki won't take it personally. He drew his assignment by chance. He would feel the same responsibility as I do.
Sorry wilki. I know you're a good person in real life. But your blatant words yesterday are just impossible to ignore. At best, you were incredibly foolish. I said nothing against you yesterday. But I can't risk leaving good Springfielders at risk. it makes absolutely no sense that you survived the night.
++wilki1999
You know what annette, im as confused as you and the rest of the springfielders. But i am Police Chief Clancy Wiggum, and i am playing the protector in this game. Vote me out if you want, but i am supposed to stop people from dying, not kill them myself. And i probably am foolish, butbi think that he villains who killed last night did not acknowledge me as they knew they would seem suspicious. In atual fact, we can probably look at the people who have not taken any notice of me, and they are two possibke villains, and two possible reasons as to why i survived the night. So vote me out. You know who i am, but i only tried to save myself, if i dont get killed by you lot, the villains are gonna kill me in the night anyway, so you may as well not bother wasting your votes on a dead man. I think we should focus on some of he people who have focused in oj me, like wijsheid as a syspect because i feel tlike he is a villain. So now you know my whole life story in this game. Question it if you want, but that is who i am.
Ok, I've had a little more coffee and some time to think some things through. These are some ideas that are currently floating around in my head. Forgive me if this is long-winded.
First- I'm not sure that JBlue was the actual target last night. Looking back over post history, they only ever expressed interest in Timescola, who we now know was one of the Springfielders. I don't see anything to indicate that they might be on a villain's radar, which says to me that JBlue's offense might have been being the one unlucky enough to stand behind the coward. Now, Wjsheid did confess to being the coward, but I'm fairly certain it was tongue in cheek. (You do not have to worry about defending yourself right now! If nothing else, I haven't found a website that will translate your code for me, and after doing one of them by hand, I'm over it ) Which is all to say- it might be worth considering that the villains' target was also the coward.
And now comes the really complicated part. PLEASE NOTE THAT EVERYTHING I SAY BELOW IS PART OF A THOUGHT EXERCISE, AND NOT AN ADMISSION OF GUILT. I am trying to put myself in the villains' heads to get one step ahead of them, I am not in cahoots with the bad guys!
For me, the biggest question is: from a villainous perspective, does it make more sense to immediately target the other villain team, or to go for Springfielders first? Both bad guy teams need to meet two conditions to win: the other bad guy team needs to die, and all but 2 Springfielders need to die. It seems to me like targeting SFers first would achieve 2 goals: (1)it keeps another team of people around to help with the killing of innocents, and (2) it allows for the possibility that the SFers might vote off the other villain team for you. Now, the danger in this of course is that the SFers could also potentially become suspicious and vote you off, so there's a risk there. So plan A- try to kill the other villains first and then take your time picking off the SFers is one option. But there's also plan B- ride it out and let the other players do some of the hard work for you while you slide under the radar.
The reason all of this mumbledy guck is important, is because it is one possible explanation for why Wilki alluded to his role as the protector and then didn't die in the night. If the villains are going for the strategy of "let other people do some of their dirty work and then swoop in and win" discussed above, then leaving Wilki alive is actually kind of brilliant. It buys both teams of villains an entire day, suspicion free, while we're running around in circles trying to figure out why they passed up the obvious choice of killing the protector.
Is this making sense to anyone else? I feel like when I started this novella I had a much clearer sense of where I was going with it, but now I've maybe talked myself in a circle?
Tl;dr- these are something things I've been thinking about. Either villain team A is not all that saavy, or they're evil geniuses and we all need to up our game to stay alive.
Villain Team A would have wasted a kill last night if wilki had happened to protect jblue/stingray. Team A would have achieved zero. In my opinion, they'd have to be idiots to do that. Not geniuses. I just don't think anyone is that dumb, to waste a kill like that.
But for my take on what our strategy should be today, I'll write that now in a response to wilki's post to me a few moments ago. He made some valid points, but I think I can show my side.
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Ok, I've had a little more coffee and some time to think some things through. These are some ideas that are currently floating around in my head. Forgive me if this is long-winded.
First- I'm not sure that JBlue was the actual target last night. Looking back over post history, they only ever expressed interest in Timescola, who we now know was one of the Springfielders. I don't see anything to indicate that they might be on a villain's radar, which says to me that JBlue's offense might have been being the one unlucky enough to stand behind the coward. Now, Wjsheid did confess to being the coward, but I'm fairly certain it was tongue in cheek. (You do not have to worry about defending yourself right now! If nothing else, I haven't found a website that will translate your code for me, and after doing one of them by hand, I'm over it ) Which is all to say- it might be worth considering that the villains' target was also the coward.
And now comes the really complicated part. PLEASE NOTE THAT EVERYTHING I SAY BELOW IS PART OF A THOUGHT EXERCISE, AND NOT AN ADMISSION OF GUILT. I am trying to put myself in the villains' heads to get one step ahead of them, I am not in cahoots with the bad guys!
For me, the biggest question is: from a villainous perspective, does it make more sense to immediately target the other villain team, or to go for Springfielders first? Both bad guy teams need to meet two conditions to win: the other bad guy team needs to die, and all but 2 Springfielders need to die. It seems to me like targeting SFers first would achieve 2 goals: (1)it keeps another team of people around to help with the killing of innocents, and (2) it allows for the possibility that the SFers might vote off the other villain team for you. Now, the danger in this of course is that the SFers could also potentially become suspicious and vote you off, so there's a risk there. So plan A- try to kill the other villains first and then take your time picking off the SFers is one option. But there's also plan B- ride it out and let the other players do some of the hard work for you while you slide under the radar.
The reason all of this mumbledy guck is important, is because it is one possible explanation for why Wilki alluded to his role as the protector and then didn't die in the night. If the villains are going for the strategy of "let other people do some of their dirty work and then swoop in and win" discussed above, then leaving Wilki alive is actually kind of brilliant. It buys both teams of villains an entire day, suspicion free, while we're running around in circles trying to figure out why they passed up the obvious choice of killing the protector.
Is this making sense to anyone else? I feel like when I started this novella I had a much clearer sense of where I was going with it, but now I've maybe talked myself in a circle?
Tl;dr- these are something things I've been thinking about. Either villain team A is not all that saavy, or they're evil geniuses and we all need to up our game to stay alive.
Guys don't vote for Wilki. Not because I think he's the protector, because I think he's the villain. Say he's a Stonecutter, and he was who voted Jblue. The Aliens will want the other villains out first, because the more Springfielders that die, the easier it will be for the Stonecutters to find the aliens and vice versa, so a stonecutter death would be very beneficial to the aliens, and vice versa. So I think Wilki is a dead man on Saturday. In this ingame day, I think we should wait for more clues/suspicions to arise and try to get two villains out, instead of us lying out the obvious choice then the villains voting one of US out on Saturday.
Hope that made sense.
Probably didn't
Guys don't vote for Wilki. Not because I think he's the protector, because I think he's the villain. Say he's a Stonecutter, and he was who voted Jblue. The Aliens will want the other villains out first, because the more Springfielders that die, the easier it will be for the Stonecutters to find the aliens and vice versa, so a stonecutter death would be very beneficial to the aliens, and vice versa. So I think Wilki is a dead man on Saturday. In this ingame day, I think we should wait for more clues/suspicions to arise and try to get two villains out, instead of us lying out the obvious choice then the villains voting one of US out on Saturday.
Hope that made sense.
Probably didn't
I think I get what you're saying, lol
I voted wrong last time and don't want to make that mistake again, so will need more evidence
Can anyone think of reasons why JBlue would be targeted? Especially since he wasn't even considered suspicious?
You know what annette, im as confused as you and the rest of the springfielders. But i am Police Chief Clancy Wiggum, and i am playing the protector in this game. Vote me out if you want, but i am supposed to stop people from dying, not kill them myself. And i probably am foolish, buti think that he villains who killed last night did not acknowledge me as they knew they would seem suspiciouss. In atual fact, we can probably look at the people who have not taken any notice of me, and they are two possibke villains, and two possible reasons as to why i survived the night. So vote me out. You know who i am, but i only tried to save myself, if i dont get killed by you lot, the villains are gonna kill me in the night anyway, so you may as well not bother wasting your votes on a dead man. I think we should focus on some of he people who have focused in oj me, like wijsheid as a syspect because i feel tlike he is a villain. So now you know my whole life story in this game. Question it if you want, but that is who i am.
Here's my thinking on this, wilki.
First, as to the underlined part. It would have been impossible for us to know the identity of the villains had they killed you last night. Logic would tell us that no matter WHO was a villain would be reasonable in killing you first. ANY villain would want to kill the Protector. No one person would be more likely than another to decide to take out the Protector.
If YOU had been the one killed, we would have learned absollutely nothing about the villains. They might have been people who sided with you all day because they had no idea you were the Protector. Once you announced that, however, we would not have been surprised to discover that they were the ones to kill you. At least, now, we know something about the villains. They wanted either stingray or JBlue dead. We have gained at least a little information.
As you said, you're a dead man. If the Springfielders don't kill you, the villains certainly will. To have two **** teams of villains -- BOTH willing to risk wasting a kill -- seems unfathomable to me.
So we agree that either the Springfielders or the villains will kill you.
If the Springfielders kill someone else, and then the villains kill you, the Springfielders will have learned nothing about the villains. It's already plain that the villains will want you dead. It will be impossible to determine WHICH of those who are suspicious of you had killed you during the night.
If, however, the Springfielders killl YOU, then they have the opportunity to learn something about the villains based on who the villains choose to kill tonight. That is, if the villains kill "A", the people can look back through the thread to determine who would have wanted "A" killed.
That would give Springfielders more valuable information, and the only difference would be that you would be killed during the day rather than during the night. One way, your death serves a purpose. The other way, it serves none.
Sorry, but that's the way I see it.
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Guys don't vote for Wilki. Not because I think he's the protector, because I think he's the villain. Say he's a Stonecutter, and he was who voted Jblue. The Aliens will want the other villains out first, because the more Springfielders that die, the easier it will be for the Stonecutters to find the aliens and vice versa, so a stonecutter death would be very beneficial to the aliens, and vice versa. So I think Wilki is a dead man on Saturday. In this ingame day, I think we should wait for more clues/suspicions to arise and try to get two villains out, instead of us lying out the obvious choice then the villains voting one of US out on Saturday.
Hope that made sense.
Probably didn't
I think I get what you're saying, lol
I voted wrong last time and don't want to make that mistake again, so will need more evidence
Can anyone think of reasons why JBlue would be targeted? Especially since he wasn't even considered suspicious?
General consensus is that the villains targeted the coward. I don't really see anyone that Jblue got on the wrong side on.
Guys don't vote for Wilki. Not because I think he's the protector, because I think he's the villain. Say he's a Stonecutter, and he was who voted Jblue. The Aliens will want the other villains out first, because the more Springfielders that die, the easier it will be for the Stonecutters to find the aliens and vice versa, so a stonecutter death would be very beneficial to the aliens, and vice versa. So I think Wilki is a dead man on Saturday. In this ingame day, I think we should wait for more clues/suspicions to arise and try to get two villains out, instead of us lying out the obvious choice then the villains voting one of US out on Saturday.
Hope that made sense.
Probably didn't
We'll learn nothing about the villains by letting them be the ones to take out wilki. Knowing that last night's villains killed JBlue and stingray at LEAST gives us a starting point. We need to know who the villains want killed tonight. We already KNOW they want the protector dead. Why not gather some more information?
See my reply to wilki, above. Sorry it's so LONG!
USA/UK Race To Throw Country Into Utter Chaos = TOO CLOSE TO CALL
I was able to glance at the morning post but unable to post anything because I been busy at work, but had that time till now to think.
At first I was almost fully convinced Wilki was a villain when he didn't die in the night. Since it said "number 1 killed the lovers. Making me think that last night stonecutters kill, and next night will be aliens. I was thinking Wilki was a stonecutter which would be why he didn't die in the night.
But then he wrote his role since he claims he was forced to because he had hinted. He said he was Police Chief Clancy Wiggum which made me think back to the end of day message where Chief Wiggum was one of the voters. I thought at the time that these were perhaps hints on characters in the game.
Besides what i said before villains would want to target other team first. So perhaps they left protecter alone since the protecter would try to protect innocent people first and technically not be in the way of the villains find in other villain team. Plus they now know who the protector is so later they can kill him.
And last thing is WE know he said he was the protector so ifhe was lying and later someone else dies and their role is revieled to be the protector then it leaves us a big target on who is the villain.
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I'm here. It's not quite 5am in my neck of the woods.
@jae, I think Cali is an hour earlier than AZ!
I can't decode what you're saying, so thank you for the picture haha.
It is not allowed to say who you are
--Johnny50373
I was told that because i hinted i had to reveal.
DO YOU SEE PEOPLE!
This is how some people play. Aggressively. THEY WANT TO WIN!
First- I'm not sure that JBlue was the actual target last night. Looking back over post history, they only ever expressed interest in Timescola, who we now know was one of the Springfielders. I don't see anything to indicate that they might be on a villain's radar, which says to me that JBlue's offense might have been being the one unlucky enough to stand behind the coward. Now, Wjsheid did confess to being the coward, but I'm fairly certain it was tongue in cheek. (You do not have to worry about defending yourself right now! If nothing else, I haven't found a website that will translate your code for me, and after doing one of them by hand, I'm over it
And now comes the really complicated part. PLEASE NOTE THAT EVERYTHING I SAY BELOW IS PART OF A THOUGHT EXERCISE, AND NOT AN ADMISSION OF GUILT. I am trying to put myself in the villains' heads to get one step ahead of them, I am not in cahoots with the bad guys!
For me, the biggest question is: from a villainous perspective, does it make more sense to immediately target the other villain team, or to go for Springfielders first? Both bad guy teams need to meet two conditions to win: the other bad guy team needs to die, and all but 2 Springfielders need to die. It seems to me like targeting SFers first would achieve 2 goals: (1)it keeps another team of people around to help with the killing of innocents, and (2) it allows for the possibility that the SFers might vote off the other villain team for you. Now, the danger in this of course is that the SFers could also potentially become suspicious and vote you off, so there's a risk there. So plan A- try to kill the other villains first and then take your time picking off the SFers is one option. But there's also plan B- ride it out and let the other players do some of the hard work for you while you slide under the radar.
The reason all of this mumbledy guck is important, is because it is one possible explanation for why Wilki alluded to his role as the protector and then didn't die in the night. If the villains are going for the strategy of "let other people do some of their dirty work and then swoop in and win" discussed above, then leaving Wilki alive is actually kind of brilliant. It buys both teams of villains an entire day, suspicion free, while we're running around in circles trying to figure out why they passed up the obvious choice of killing the protector.
Is this making sense to anyone else? I feel like when I started this novella I had a much clearer sense of where I was going with it, but now I've maybe talked myself in a circle?
Tl;dr- these are something things I've been thinking about. Either villain team A is not all that saavy, or they're evil geniuses and we all need to up our game to stay alive.
You have dug yourself into a hole mate
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Villain Team A would have wasted a kill last night if wilki had happened to protect jblue/stingray. Team A would have achieved zero. In my opinion, they'd have to be idiots to do that. Not geniuses. I just don't think anyone is that dumb, to waste a kill like that.
But for my take on what our strategy should be today, I'll write that now in a response to wilki's post to me a few moments ago. He made some valid points, but I think I can show my side.
Yes i see where you are coming from.
Hope that made sense.
Probably didn't
I think I get what you're saying, lol
I voted wrong last time and don't want to make that mistake again, so will need more evidence
Can anyone think of reasons why JBlue would be targeted? Especially since he wasn't even considered suspicious?
Here's my thinking on this, wilki.
First, as to the underlined part. It would have been impossible for us to know the identity of the villains had they killed you last night. Logic would tell us that no matter WHO was a villain would be reasonable in killing you first. ANY villain would want to kill the Protector. No one person would be more likely than another to decide to take out the Protector.
If YOU had been the one killed, we would have learned absollutely nothing about the villains. They might have been people who sided with you all day because they had no idea you were the Protector. Once you announced that, however, we would not have been surprised to discover that they were the ones to kill you. At least, now, we know something about the villains. They wanted either stingray or JBlue dead. We have gained at least a little information.
As you said, you're a dead man. If the Springfielders don't kill you, the villains certainly will. To have two **** teams of villains -- BOTH willing to risk wasting a kill -- seems unfathomable to me.
So we agree that either the Springfielders or the villains will kill you.
If the Springfielders kill someone else, and then the villains kill you, the Springfielders will have learned nothing about the villains. It's already plain that the villains will want you dead. It will be impossible to determine WHICH of those who are suspicious of you had killed you during the night.
If, however, the Springfielders killl YOU, then they have the opportunity to learn something about the villains based on who the villains choose to kill tonight. That is, if the villains kill "A", the people can look back through the thread to determine who would have wanted "A" killed.
That would give Springfielders more valuable information, and the only difference would be that you would be killed during the day rather than during the night. One way, your death serves a purpose. The other way, it serves none.
Sorry, but that's the way I see it.
General consensus is that the villains targeted the coward. I don't really see anyone that Jblue got on the wrong side on.
We'll learn nothing about the villains by letting them be the ones to take out wilki. Knowing that last night's villains killed JBlue and stingray at LEAST gives us a starting point. We need to know who the villains want killed tonight. We already KNOW they want the protector dead. Why not gather some more information?
See my reply to wilki, above. Sorry it's so LONG!
Second I wanted to say this
I was able to glance at the morning post but unable to post anything because I been busy at work, but had that time till now to think.
At first I was almost fully convinced Wilki was a villain when he didn't die in the night. Since it said "number 1 killed the lovers. Making me think that last night stonecutters kill, and next night will be aliens. I was thinking Wilki was a stonecutter which would be why he didn't die in the night.
But then he wrote his role since he claims he was forced to because he had hinted. He said he was Police Chief Clancy Wiggum which made me think back to the end of day message where Chief Wiggum was one of the voters. I thought at the time that these were perhaps hints on characters in the game.
Besides what i said before villains would want to target other team first. So perhaps they left protecter alone since the protecter would try to protect innocent people first and technically not be in the way of the villains find in other villain team. Plus they now know who the protector is so later they can kill him.
And last thing is WE know he said he was the protector so ifhe was lying and later someone else dies and their role is revieled to be the protector then it leaves us a big target on who is the villain.
So I won't vote out Wilki and that's my reasoning