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Thank you for bringing public awareness to Monsanto

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Ok. Sure americans don't read. But without Monsanto, the cost of food would go up, handbags something people around the world would care about.

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  • orionsbell
    487 posts Member
    edited April 2015
    GMOs help feed a growing population with fewer resources to spread around.

    The real "evil" thing about Monsanto is that they don't allow farmers to harvest seeds from GMOs, forcing them to by new seed every year. This happens not just in the US but also 3rd world nations where this policy is crippling those economies.
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  • smohqy
    2113 posts Member
    edited April 2015
    Ok. Sure americans don't read. But without Monsanto, the cost of food would go up, handbags something people around the world would care about.

    Without Monsanto, there'd be no need for Monsanto.

    Without Monsanto, nature could be, well, natural.
  • lynnmckenz82
    2611 posts Member
    edited April 2015
    orionsbell wrote:
    GMOs help feed a growing population with fewer resources to spread around.

    The real "evil" thing about Monsanto is that they don't allow farmers to harvest seeds from GMOs, forcing them to by new seed every year. This happens not just in the US but also 3rd world nations where this policy is crippling those economies.

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    The public is sadly ignorant about the benefits of GMOs. And they're misinformed about their safety, thanks to the New Age nuts who don't vaccinate their kids.
    Imagine there's a signature image here.--Lynn McKenzie
  • duncanbrow162
    282 posts Member
    edited April 2015
    orionsbell wrote:
    GMOs help feed a growing population with fewer resources to spread around.

    The real "evil" thing about Monsanto is that they don't allow farmers to harvest seeds from GMOs, forcing them to by new seed every year. This happens not just in the US but also 3rd world nations where this policy is crippling those economies.

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    The public is sadly ignorant about the benefits of GMOs. And they're misinformed about their safety, thanks to the New Age nuts who don't vaccinate their kids.

    I quite agree.
  • mdawny
    325 posts Member
    edited April 2015
    I'm getting in before the haters cause a thread lock. You're right, Adam. I don't want to eat any genetically modified food. And Monsanto is responsible for the honey bees being killed off. Round-up is killing them. Recently, a Monsanto lobbyist said Round-up was safe to drink. Then when asked by the reporter to drink a glass of it he had there, he said no and stormed out of the interview. I'm glad TSTO is bringing awareness via comedy. People might research. I could go on and on but will stop here. :lol:
  • Pokelon
    438 posts Member
    edited April 2015
    I didn't even get the link...... :oops: thanks for bringing it up! (does the fact I live in France count as a small excuse?)
  • patzmcm
    703 posts Member
    edited April 2015
    mdawny wrote:
    I'm getting in before the haters cause a thread lock. You're right, Adam. I don't want to eat any genetically modified food. And Monsanto is responsible for the honey bees being killed off. Round-up is killing them. Recently, a Monsanto lobbyist said Round-up was safe to drink. Then when asked by the reporter to drink a glass of it he had there, he said no and stormed out of the interview. I'm glad TSTO is bringing awareness via comedy. People might research. I could go on and on but will stop here. :lol:
    Nor do I want to eat food that has been genetically altered so it can withstand being sprayed with more pesticides. My father was a part time farmer, not organic. Once I had my own house and children (eons ago in the 80's) (fully vaccinated) I decided to buy organic when it made sense to do so.
  • Adamcayce
    810 posts
    edited April 2015
    GMO have been around since the 90s. Why are there still billions of children will going hungry each night?

    The "GMOs feed more people" is propaganda from the company, and the American government, since the two are one in the same. Same employees, passing. "Safety laws" on their own product. Can't get more biased than that.


    And I don't trust people that have to use deceptive work-arounds in order to get someone to label their products safe.

    All the propaganda in the world won't work to change my mind. GMO is bizarre and unnatural, no matter how much propaganda you've been tricked into believing, you have to admit that.

    The white house, which employees ex-Monsanto employees, has their own Organic garden. They refuse to eat any of Monsanto's pesticide ridden vegetables or GMO vegetables. That tells me all I need to know about what they beleive is safe to eat.

    I'm glad I get to tap and kill those little green GMO monsters running through my town.
  • stinkbugger
    1984 posts Member
    edited April 2015
    Even though Tapped Out is a little blip in the big scheme of things, I wouldn't be surprised if there's some astroturfing in various TO-related forums to put a good spin on Monsanto/GMOs.
  • ZennGlenn
    1808 posts Member
    edited April 2015
    The Fantasmajastic FrankenFood Invasion is bringing plenty informative fun...

    & the hauntingly groovy Halloween flavored splashscreen pretty much says it all...
    -not to mention the hysterical Ghostbusters flavor 'Slimer-Veggies' requiring capture:twisted:
  • lynnmckenz82
    2611 posts Member
    edited April 2015
    Even though Tapped Out is a little blip in the big scheme of things, I wouldn't be surprised if there's some astroturfing in various TO-related forums to put a good spin on Monsanto/GMOs.

    I don't mind you disagreeing with my opinions, but I'm damned if I'll let you insinuate that I'm a paid shill for Monsanto. I genuinely believe that GMOs are beneficial. I'm not going to get into a debate on it here, but if I were allowed, I would link at least two articles from the New York Times about the good they have done for humans.

    I do NOT work for Monsanto or any GMO company, and I don't believe anyone here does. So please apologize.
    Imagine there's a signature image here.--Lynn McKenzie
  • stinkbugger
    1984 posts Member
    edited April 2015
    I don't mind you disagreeing with my opinions, but I'm damned if I'll let you insinuate that I'm a paid shill for Monsanto.

    Uh, my comment wasn't directed at you. When did I refer to you or anything specific you said? I was just speculating in general.
  • Ningyo42
    1465 posts Member
    edited April 2015
    I've lived the majority of my life within 15 miles of Monsanto in Western Mass. The worst was when you'd drive by and smell that ... smell. Like melting plastic combined with chemicals not normally in plastic. lol
  • neuroheart
    8132 posts Member
    edited April 2015
    Genetically modifying foods can (and has) done some good for humans. Without modification by selective breeding, most of our favorite fruits and veggies would not be as large or as flavorful. Without some of the tinkering done, certain things might have been wiped out by blight, or unable to grow in certain parts of the world.
    The evil, as mentioned, is Monsanto's focus on their bottom line. They sue farmers for harvesting seeds, and they sell their own brand of pesticides and weed killers to go with their copyrighted crops. Homogeny in crops is also a danger if a blight comes along (just ask the Irish what happened when 90% of their potatoes were vulnerable to blight) and Monsanto doesn't introduce any variety to their product. They also have a huge market for the US cash crop of corn, but haven't tried to make a super great, extra hearty sweet potato, a staple throughout a lot of Africa where people are starving to death in droves. Claiming that their goal is to feed the hungry is a complete crock. Their goal is to make as much money as they can.
    I don't think genetic modification is necessarily evil, but the way Monsanto does it is totally evil. I weep for the farmers they've bankrupted, and the starving masses they haven't helped.

    Pokelon wrote:
    I didn't even get the link...... :oops: thanks for bringing it up! (does the fact I live in France count as a small excuse?)
    I'm fairly certain that France has banned Monsanto, so yes.


    Anyway, try to keep it civil in here, folks. I know this can be a touchy subject, so let's try not to get personal.
  • Starman_thc
    389 posts Member
    edited April 2015
    Wow, a GMO debate on the forums? Not sure this is the place for it, but clearly this is an issue that needs a lot more attention in general than it gets. On one hand, the genie is out of the bottle with regards to genetic modification, so it is relatively impossible to stem the flow of GMO's (including animals/humans). On the other hand, there is clearly a lot of good that can be achieved with some of this, but the big question is: at what cost?

    The PRO GMO group is being driven by profits and control, and the ANTI GMO group is being driven by fear. It would be nice if we still had a TRUSTED means for the long term testing of things before we start proliferating them across the planet but greed elimates this, and fear is born because of this.

    Now if you want to get into the evil corporation, and what they are and are not doing, then you have a whole other conversation. They seem to be creating a whole other marketplace that they rule over, and of course the govenrment is in bed with them (or ARE them), so it seems another step is taken toward the distopian future we have all witnessed in countless sci-fi endeavors (Soylent Green anyone??).
  • ZennGlenn
    1808 posts Member
    edited April 2015
    I was doing my part to keep it funky fun...
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    & as usual, Neuro's solid voice of sanity perfectly summed things up as well... (shes the Lisa Simpson of the forum imho) 8)

    (& Drooling... mmmmmmm, Soylent Green)
  • XBL-Heretic
    1228 posts Member
    edited April 2015
    <snip> so it seems another step is taken toward the distopian future we have all witnessed in countless sci-fi endeavors (Soylent Green anyone??).

    +1,000 :thumbup:
  • Annathewicked
    4736 posts Member
    edited April 2015
    Wow this debate I did not expect on the forum!


    I, for one, was laughing- thinking my mother in law will love this! She Hates Monsanto........

    There is no doubt some gmo's are good- I like growing plants in colorado and there's a lot of food I couldn't grow due to climate without genetic engineering. But there's some like being hand in hand with * killer companies and splicing our plants to resist that..... Not really pro that kind of crazy toxic chemical junk....... So, depending on how it's modified, some gmos are great.


    That said- Monsanto is evil. Period. They scream they're helping as loud as they can while their actions show much differently. They force the farmers to buy seed every year- bankrupting countries that already had no money. They sue farmers across the street who's crops accidentally (dang wind!!!) get cross pollinated with their precious trademarked seeds. They are IN our government forming laws to help themselves, they are part of chemical corps, * killer corps, and all kinds of other things to make their product resistant to those items- which does not benifit us- do you spray * killer on your vegetables? No- it will kill them too, unless their engineered not to (you owe Monsanto $$ now I think....), it's not healthy or beneficial.

    Like neuro said- their bottom line is what thier in it for- not the good of humanity. There is no mistaking their actions..... They just use a lot of pretty words and powerful people to make us think otherwise..

    And yes, the fear people are out there with this as much as any subject..... Doesn't mean their totally wrong either.

    PM me- I DO need Good Neighboreenos currently
  • petehd14
    2769 posts Member
    edited April 2015
    The most important things are the 0RRdP.gif.
  • nissa762
    1950 posts Member
    edited April 2015
    neuroheart wrote:
    Genetically modifying foods can (and has) done some good for humans. Without modification by selective breeding, most of our favorite fruits and veggies would not be as large or as flavorful. Without some of the tinkering done, certain things might have been wiped out by blight, or unable to grow in certain parts of the world.
    The evil, as mentioned, is Monsanto's focus on their bottom line. They sue farmers for harvesting seeds, and they sell their own brand of pesticides and weed killers to go with their copyrighted crops. Homogeny in crops is also a danger if a blight comes along (just ask the Irish what happened when 90% of their potatoes were vulnerable to blight) and Monsanto doesn't introduce any variety to their product. They also have a huge market for the US cash crop of corn, but haven't tried to make a super great, extra hearty sweet potato, a staple throughout a lot of Africa where people are starving to death in droves. Claiming that their goal is to feed the hungry is a complete crock. Their goal is to make as much money as they can.
    I don't think genetic modification is necessarily evil, but the way Monsanto does it is totally evil. I weep for the farmers they've bankrupted, and the starving masses they haven't helped.

    Pokelon wrote:
    I didn't even get the link...... :oops: thanks for bringing it up! (does the fact I live in France count as a small excuse?)
    I'm fairly certain that France has banned Monsanto, so yes.


    Anyway, try to keep it civil in here, folks. I know this can be a touchy subject, so let's try not to get personal.

    Thank you!! Seedless grapes, oranges and watermelon etc., have all been around for a long time by modifying the crops through selective breeding. Science now has a more precise method to achieve selective breeding. It's really unfortunate as this came to light under the biotechnology umbrella with a goal of solving problems like water scarcity, food security, decreasing arable land and increase in population size. The original goals of GMO (before that word was used) was to ensure sustainability of farming and food, especially in developing nations where water scarcity and shrinking arable land is a real problem. Very much a shame that all GMO is now painted with a bad label.
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