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  • notDepressed
    286 posts Member
    edited May 2016
    ZennGlenn wrote:
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    ...the 'pitiful' billionaires are likely far & few between :twisted:
    Don't need to be a billionaire - only $150mm+ is required
    Happy tapping!
  • iain51269522
    788 posts Member
    edited May 2016
    Yes thats right. There might be some people who can generate free donuts but not everybody can. I've been playing for a few years and have increased my towns cash generating potential a lot but it's still not at 1 000 000 GC a day.

    My multiplier is 170% not 600%. If I want it to go up 400% I am still going to have to pay a significant amount of cash. There will still be many players in a position of having to buy donuts to access premium content. They are the new cash cows especially during events when they will need to buy character X which the rest of us just acuired over the years. Then there is the time limited items.

    People playing since day dot might have access to free donuts but the economics are different depending on your position in the game. If you started playing today and wanted 1 000 000 000 cash 600% mulitplier and all the content going you need to be prepared to spend cash over a period of years.
  • Johnny2bd
    680 posts Member
    edited May 2016

    I'm done debating this with you.

    There's nothing left to debate - you're wrong.

    Here's your argument -

    'Oh my God! The really expensive restaurant gave their oldest patrons a free 20 dollar meal! 20 dollars! And that guy who's been eating there for 3 years and has spent at least 500 dollars? They gave him a 50 dollar meal for free!!! OMG OMG OMG! They MUST be closing!'

    Get a grip. That's all this comes down to - about twenty bucks worth of free donuts for everyone and a 10% discount card for the people who have been supporting the game for years.
  • wiedmannaj
    1125 posts Member
    edited May 2016
    justabar69 wrote:
    I agree the game MUST be winding down. I have (well, HAD anyway) well over a billion dollars saved up. I have a 579.35% multiplier and the SH bonus on top of that. With all the characters and buildings I have to collect from, I clear WAY over a million bucks everyday. With the collider bonus on top of that, I can basically convert my billion dollars into donuts, which is what I am doing now. Making rat trap trucks and selling them back. If they leave it like this, I WILL NEVER HAVE TO BUY DONUTS AGAIN. EVER
    No need to hunt for Maggie, no need to work on the monorail, I can just spend the rest of my Springfield life converting money to donuts. I spent about 75 million today, got somewhere around 1,000 donuts, and I quit cuz I just got sick of it. Go again tomorrow. And that's with the patch, flipping the xp at 1,000,000.

    The doomsday clock has begun.

    You and many others now have a FREE full premium game. Congratulations - you beat the game - literally. That's what my point has been. They ended the game by allowing cash to now acquire endless amounts of donuts. So now, there is an end and this is it. All new players can now strive to accomplish this - having a free premium game. Clock ticking.
    Lots of people strive to famous Hollywood actors, but very few actually do. I think the number of people with one billion dollars of in game cash & a 500+% is not that large. Those that you would find almost certainly have spent money buying donuts in the past.
    Missing Character: The Barbarian
  • justabar69
    75 posts Member
    edited May 2016
    Johnny2bd wrote:

    I'm done debating this with you.

    There's nothing left to debate - you're wrong.

    Here's your argument -

    'Oh my God! The really expensive restaurant gave their oldest patrons a free 20 dollar meal! 20 dollars! And that guy who's been eating there for 3 years and has spent at least 500 dollars? They gave him a 50 dollar meal for free!!! OMG OMG OMG! They MUST be closing!'

    Get a grip. That's all this comes down to - about twenty bucks worth of free donuts for everyone and a 10% discount card for the people who have been supporting the game for years.

    It's not a 10% discount. It's a 100% discount.
  • Johnny2bd
    680 posts Member
    edited May 2016
    justabar69 wrote:
    Johnny2bd wrote:

    I'm done debating this with you.

    There's nothing left to debate - you're wrong.

    Here's your argument -

    'Oh my God! The really expensive restaurant gave their oldest patrons a free 20 dollar meal! 20 dollars! And that guy who's been eating there for 3 years and has spent at least 500 dollars? They gave him a 50 dollar meal for free!!! OMG OMG OMG! They MUST be closing!'

    Get a grip. That's all this comes down to - about twenty bucks worth of free donuts for everyone and a 10% discount card for the people who have been supporting the game for years.

    It's not a 10% discount. It's a 100% discount.

    In the EXACT same way visiting all your friends every day and racking in about 3 donuts is a 100% discount. I doubt if even 20% of player base had enough money to break the 900 level barrier - and those that did basically blew their wad and all their cash getting that high. The XP requirements are higher now and they're broke. Like everyone else they're going to only go up a level or two a day - which will net them the same amount of donuts we've always been able to get daily through friends visits and 'where's maggie.' It's a 10% discount max.
  • 74hands
    458 posts Member
    edited May 2016
    There is only one way TSTO can end and that's ironically. We all have the game ending sequence in our games, and it's the animation when we start - Homer is playing a game similar to TSTO on his tablet, neglects his work, the plant blows up and destroys everything, and you have to start rebuilding SF from scratch.

    I predict that's what will happen to us someday. We'll get to the end, press something wrong, nuke our own Springfields, lose everything, and be asked by Homer if we want to start again. Now that would be funny and ironic.
    My choice for all my Tapped Out news and troll-free friendly chat is the EA officially approved Tapped Out UK :)
  • tapperino_forums
    542 posts Member
    edited May 2016
    Johnny2bd wrote:
    I doubt if even 20% of player base had enough money to break the 900 level barrier max.

    I doubt it was even 1%. More likely a fraction of that. It's insignificant, and the spenders who landed a donut windfall will soon resume their spending anyway. EA make a lot of $$ off this game - why would they close it down when they can deliver new content through events and keep the money rolling in from as many people as possible ?
  • Johnny2bd
    680 posts Member
    edited May 2016
    Johnny2bd wrote:
    I doubt if even 20% of player base had enough money to break the 900 level barrier max.

    I doubt it was even 1%. More likely a fraction of that. It's insignificant, and the spenders who landed a donut windfall will soon resume their spending anyway. EA make a lot of $$ off this game - why would they close it down when they can deliver new content through events and keep the money rolling in from as many people as possible ?

    Yeah, I was doing the math in my head and I'm pretty sure I've got to be hitting in at least the top 20% of players - if not higher. A 500% XP multiplier and my buildings produce a million in game dollars on a daily basis and I'm not even sure if I'm going up a full level a day. Even most of my powerhouse whale friends missed out on the exploit by not logging in that day or by skipping this event. The mass of us won't be seeing the end of levels any time soon - if even by the end of the year.
  • ForumNerds
    2455 posts Member
    edited May 2016
    Could we finally put this to rest? This is a new, VERY PROFITABLE business model.

    The past six months (approx. 180 days) of NEW content, not counting consumables, and assuming a person bought exactly ONE of each NEW item over those 6 months (e.g., cacti.)

    Thanksgiving =125
    Black Friday = 145
    SH II = 235
    Winter 1 = 515
    Winter 2 = 480
    Winter 3 = 465
    Much Apu About Nothing = 90
    Space Homer = 150
    Tailgate = 200
    Valentines = 235
    Redwood = 100
    Casino 1 = 605
    Casino 2 = 235
    Casino 3 = 80
    Margian Chronicles = 285
    * Patricks/Easter = 250
    Crook & Ladder = 185
    Wild West I = 605
    Wild West II = 280
    Wild West III = 230

    Grand total = 5,495 donuts (aka 30.5 donuts per day)

    IF someone can gain 1 MILLION XP after reaching Level 939, that's 1 level per day. OOPS. For those of you who saw this when I originally posted it, I originally calculated based on someone going up TWO levels per day. Now I've corrected the numbers below.) It's ONE level per day. Assuming they get "3 donuts" each Level Up, that's 3 free donuts per day from leveling up.

    Add 3 donuts from Maggie every 16 hours, that's 4.5 donuts per day
    Add 5 donuts a week from the Rail Station, that's .7 donuts per day

    Grand total "free" donuts per day = 9 (I'm being generous, rounding up, and assuming they play Maggie every single 16 hours)

    So, in 180 days, they would get 1,620 "free" donuts.

    Ergo: 5,495 donuts required - 1,620 "free" donuts leaves

    Which leaves 3,875 NON "free" donuts for NEW, non-consumable items ... in six months. (aka $100 for 2,400 donuts plus $50 for 900 donuts plus $20 for 400 ... $170 per six months)

    And that's for someone able to make a million XP (not dollars, folks. XP) every day. One million. And plays Maggie every 16 hours. And owns every item from past events. (I still can't figure out how they can make a million XP per day ... by using the collider? Because if I don't use the collider, I sure ain't gonna be making a million XP per day. And I'm pretty sure that costs DONUTS to use.)

    And finally -- for the guy saying "we're getting free donuts for life" ... I can't imagine the hundreds (and I do mean HUNDREDS) of RL dollars it took to reach the multiplier needed to get to the point where a person could make one million XP per day.

    If someone managed to get 6,000 free donuts yesterday (because of the 8-hour-long humongous glitch) plus spent the aforementioned hundreds of RL dollars to purchase donuts to get the multiplier, (unless they picked the donuts up from The Free Donut Fairy) Their 6,000 donuts from yesterday is gonna last six months.

    Not forever. For six months.


    NOTE: As I went through the wikia to collect that data at the top of this post, y'know what I noticed? That stuff is pretty much ALL "limited time". Let's talk about marketing genius.


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  • chrisgyo
    1030 posts Member
    edited May 2016
    whaaaat

    the 'free' donuts they're giving are chump change...I can name at least 2k donuts worth of things I would like to buy right now :D
  • IckabodSchrek
    5912 posts Member
    edited May 2016
    Thank you Annette!!!!! Hopefully no one will argue with wisdom, common sense, and FACTS.
    DeesToonTown in Crawl to the Finish #The Grumple Is Free!
  • ForumNerds
    2455 posts Member
    edited May 2016
    Thank you Annette!!!!! Hopefully no one will argue with wisdom, common sense, and FACTS.

    (I edited it, btw. Blue font explains why.) :)

    I can see why they stopped "levels" ... I believe someone tallied up how many donuts it would cost to buy one of all the PERMANENT premium items, and it was well over 10,000 donuts. That did NOT include special event items, of which there were plenty in the 3.5 years between the game's release in Spring of 2012 and the end of 2015

    I'm too tired to go back and do all that math. Maybe someday. :)

    Or not. ;)
  • justabar69
    75 posts Member
    edited May 2016
    You can do all the math you want.

    The only math I will be doing is counting free donuts until the end of time.

    There are many others in the same boat.


    and for the record, yes, I spent more than I would like to admit, I spent a little over $400 in the past few years on the game. Yes I did. And now, I clear the xp counter 5 times a day by simply collecting. then I buy rat trap trucks, cash in, sell them, buy a few more, etc. I spent 20 donuts on the collider for one week, chump change for what i'm getting. It's self sustaining.
  • Kratos6283
    366 posts Member
    edited May 2016
    I'm going to start my own announcement thread.
  • ForumNerds
    2455 posts Member
    edited May 2016
    justabar69 wrote:
    You can do all the math you want.

    The only math I will be doing is counting free donuts until the end of time.

    There are many others in the same boat.


    and for the record, yes, I spent more than I would like to admit, I spent a little over $400 in the past few years on the game. Yes I did. And now, I clear the xp counter 5 times a day by simply collecting. then I buy rat trap trucks, cash in, sell them, buy a few more, etc. I spent 20 donuts on the collider for one week, chump change for what i'm getting. It's self sustaining.

    It's fun, right? I agree. My XP counter is 500,000 XP now ... 5 times a day sounds like too much work.

    I paid a lot more than $400 over the years -- probably 3 times that -- and that's one reason my multiplier is where it is (about 500%) Money well spent, IMO. 4 years of daily entertainment, at about $1 per day. :)

    I wasn't able to make a killing in THAT town this time, cuz it was one of the locked-out ones. (I got it up to Level 100, though). But I did really well in a few others -- their multipliers are much lower (in the 140% range, and I didn't have as much cash (the best I had from those was around $8 million) ... but with that magic collider for that one day, it was still raining donuts for a good while. (Then got booted out of one of those, too.) :)

    And now EA went and "fixed" things so I need to do things the old-fashioned way.

    Luckily, in my main town, I own pretty much all the premium items I want, but I'll see what comes up in the next event and probably have to spend some more RL money if there's a lot of good stuff. I can clear a good chunk of money in that town every day if I bring all my multipliers out of storage, but ... well ... we'll see.
  • justabar69
    75 posts Member
    edited May 2016
    ForumNerds wrote:
    It's fun, right? I agree. My XP counter is 500,000 XP now ... 5 times a day sounds like too much work.

    I paid a lot more than $400 over the years -- probably 3 times that -- and that's one reason my multiplier is where it is (about 500%) Money well spent, IMO. 4 years of daily entertainment, at about $1 per day. :)

    I wasn't able to make a killing in THAT town this time, cuz it was one of the locked-out ones. (I got it up to Level 100, though). But I did really well in a few others -- their multipliers are much lower (in the 140% range, and I didn't have as much cash (the best I had from those was around $8 million) ... but with that magic collider for that one day, it was still raining donuts for a good while. (Then got booted out of one of those, too.) :)

    And now EA went and "fixed" things so I need to do things the old-fashioned way.

    Luckily, in my main town, I own pretty much all the premium items I want, but I'll see what comes up in the next event and probably have to spend some more RL money if there's a lot of good stuff. I can clear a good chunk of money in that town every day if I bring all my multipliers out of storage, but ... well ... we'll see.

    Yeah, I got to admit, it's really pretty cool. I've played since about halfway of the original whacking day, played a lot, saved money and donuts and used wisely. I caved in and bought a boatload of donuts 4 times over the years, a few itchy and scratchy tickets, and tapped my * off. Now it's really like I'm in some secret level of Super Mario or something, because I can now do whatever I want, just as long as I keep tapping everyday. But no more worrying about donuts any more.

    it's liberating
  • ArmpitAttack
    2353 posts Member
    edited May 2016
    be careful or you could get bored now.

    that's how it's worked in other games when I got God Powers.

    I got some loot from the Level 60 Madness, was able to scratch off my entire list of "Essential Needs" items. **** after that I made sure not to run up the donut total more than a couple hundred.... because the STRIVING for donuts is what makes the tapping important. If the tapping is pointless, sooner or later you notice that and lose interest. That's the danger of breaking the game wide open..... the game is then broken.
  • justabar69
    75 posts Member
    edited May 2016
    be careful or you could get bored now.

    that's how it's worked in other games when I got God Powers.

    I got some loot from the Level 60 Madness, was able to scratch off my entire list of "Essential Needs" items. **** after that I made sure not to run up the donut total more than a couple hundred.... because the STRIVING for donuts is what makes the tapping important. If the tapping is pointless, sooner or later you notice that and lose interest. That's the danger of breaking the game wide open..... the game is then broken.

    Yeah, I know, good point, and I see it coming from somewhere's just over the horizon. But the game ends for everyone at some point. May as well go out riding a rocket into the sun than in my sleep.

    I could use the time off anyways... :roll:
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