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Excavation Site Gems

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  • teo47
    944 posts Member
    edited May 2017
    Edit: This is now changed to a maximum of 10 moves. Credit to davejandals for getting the right order. Square marked as 0 is actually the 10th choice.

    x5xx9x
    xxx1xx
    6xxxx4
    xx2xxx
    0xxx3x
    x7xx8x

    Post edited by teo47 on
    New neighbors always welcome!
  • jellypawn
    134 posts Member
    we need numbered photos for any new theory. this maths is blowing my brain
  • Great info! It never occurred to me that there might be a pattern.
    BulldogMom23 in Crawl to the Finish
  • Hi, I've got this down to 10 moves max. Hope this helps someone :)


    First 3 moves cover 5 squares each:

    _ x _ _ _ _

    x 1 x _ x _

    _ x x x 3 x

    _ x 2 x x _

    _ _ x _ _ _

    _ _ _ _ _ _



    Next 4 moves cover 4 squares each:


    _ x x 4 x _

    x 1 x x x _

    _ x x x 3 x

    x x 2 x x x

    5 x x x x 7

    x _ x 6 x x




    If you haven't found the gem in these 31 squares / 7 moves, you can finish the board in 3 more moves:


    x x x 4 x x

    8 1 x x x 9

    x x x x 3 x

    x x 2 x x x

    5 x x x x 7

    x 0 x 6 x x


    I'd be keen to know if anyone's found a solution to cover the board in less than 10 moves
  • teo47
    944 posts Member
    edited May 2017
    Hi, I've got this down to 10 moves max. Hope this helps someone :)


    First 3 moves cover 5 squares each:

    _ x _ _ _ _

    x 1 x _ x _

    _ x x x 3 x

    _ x 2 x x _

    _ _ x _ _ _

    _ _ _ _ _ _



    Next 4 moves cover 4 squares each:


    _ x x 4 x _

    x 1 x x x _

    _ x x x 3 x

    x x 2 x x x

    5 x x x x 7

    x _ x 6 x x




    If you haven't found the gem in these 31 squares / 7 moves, you can finish the board in 3 more moves:


    x x x 4 x x

    8 1 x x x 9

    x x x x 3 x

    x x 2 x x x

    5 x x x x 7

    x 0 x 6 x x


    I'd be keen to know if anyone's found a solution to cover the board in less than 10 moves

    Wow, you are correct! This is basically the same as what I posted above, but I missed that you can knock it down to 10 by testing the square in between the two blanks instead of testing them individually. Nice work!
    New neighbors always welcome!
  • Muhsterino
    4499 posts Member
    Thanks everyone who posted in this thread, nice work! I have added this info to the Q&A strategy thread too.


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  • meinaz
    5440 posts Member
    Hi, I've got this down to 10 moves max. Hope this helps someone :)


    First 3 moves cover 5 squares each:

    _ x _ _ _ _

    x 1 x _ x _

    _ x x x 3 x

    _ x 2 x x _

    _ _ x _ _ _

    _ _ _ _ _ _



    Next 4 moves cover 4 squares each:


    _ x x 4 x _

    x 1 x x x _

    _ x x x 3 x

    x x 2 x x x

    5 x x x x 7

    x _ x 6 x x




    If you haven't found the gem in these 31 squares / 7 moves, you can finish the board in 3 more moves:


    x x x 4 x x

    8 1 x x x 9

    x x x x 3 x

    x x 2 x x x

    5 x x x x 7

    x 0 x 6 x x


    I'd be keen to know if anyone's found a solution to cover the board in less than 10 moves

    Awesome! Thanks for sharing.
  • afscott
    76 posts Member
    Uh, it's pretty obvious that the smaller rocks are intended as a "hint" at where the gem is. It's like you people have never played minesweeper...
  • teo47
    944 posts Member
    edited May 2017
    Typed up a quick Google Doc that hopefully explains the 10 shovel solution in a bit more detail. Link is in my signature as posting it within the thread is against forum rules.
    New neighbors always welcome!
  • meinaz
    5440 posts Member
    afscott wrote: »
    Uh, it's pretty obvious that the smaller rocks are intended as a "hint" at where the gem is. It's like you people have never played minesweeper...

    We realize that but shovels are limited and figuring out the most efficient way to find the gem will allow us to get more materials.
  • Worst case scenario: didn't hit gem until 16th shovel. Can't see any here that I shouldn't have dug ?

    SR3EFxu.jpg
  • meinaz
    5440 posts Member
    Worst case scenario: didn't hit gem until 16th shovel. Can't see any here that I shouldn't have dug ?

    SR3EFxu.jpg

    Look at the order @davejandals posted above. It is the most efficient way to find the gem. You want to space out the holes so each square is only checked by one hole instead of multiple. (Hopefully that makes sense.)
  • Hi, I've got this down to 10 moves max. Hope this helps someone :)


    First 3 moves cover 5 squares each:

    _ x _ _ _ _

    x 1 x _ x _

    _ x x x 3 x

    _ x 2 x x _

    _ _ x _ _ _

    _ _ _ _ _ _



    Next 4 moves cover 4 squares each:


    _ x x 4 x _

    x 1 x x x _

    _ x x x 3 x

    x x 2 x x x

    5 x x x x 7

    x _ x 6 x x




    If you haven't found the gem in these 31 squares / 7 moves, you can finish the board in 3 more moves:


    x x x 4 x x

    8 1 x x x 9

    x x x x 3 x

    x x 2 x x x

    5 x x x x 7

    x 0 x 6 x x


    I'd be keen to know if anyone's found a solution to cover the board in less than 10 moves

    Mine's just a slight modification to what you have.:

    0 x x 4 x 9

    x 1 x x x x

    x x x x 3 x

    7 x 2 x x x

    x x x x x 6

    x 5 x 8 x x


    There are some shifts that can be made (e.g., number 9 can be at either position without changing the result). The main thing I see is that your #8 has to be placed on a spot that has already been ruled out, which seems a little less efficient. I'm sure there are some other little tweaks that can be made to mine, too.
  • I'd like to thank everyone here by not visiting the main strategy thread.
  • teo47
    944 posts Member
    Hi, I've got this down to 10 moves max. Hope this helps someone :)


    First 3 moves cover 5 squares each:

    _ x _ _ _ _

    x 1 x _ x _

    _ x x x 3 x

    _ x 2 x x _

    _ _ x _ _ _

    _ _ _ _ _ _



    Next 4 moves cover 4 squares each:


    _ x x 4 x _

    x 1 x x x _

    _ x x x 3 x

    x x 2 x x x

    5 x x x x 7

    x _ x 6 x x




    If you haven't found the gem in these 31 squares / 7 moves, you can finish the board in 3 more moves:


    x x x 4 x x

    8 1 x x x 9

    x x x x 3 x

    x x 2 x x x

    5 x x x x 7

    x 0 x 6 x x


    I'd be keen to know if anyone's found a solution to cover the board in less than 10 moves

    Mine's just a slight modification to what you have.:

    0 x x 4 x 9

    x 1 x x x x

    x x x x 3 x

    7 x 2 x x x

    x x x x x 6

    x 5 x 8 x x


    There are some shifts that can be made (e.g., number 9 can be at either position without changing the result). The main thing I see is that your #8 has to be placed on a spot that has already been ruled out, which seems a little less efficient. I'm sure there are some other little tweaks that can be made to mine, too.

    Nice work, this is indeed a slightly more efficient solution. Your square 7 has only two adjacent squares to be checked instead of three, and square 8 is a possible gem location instead of being known to be ruled out already.
    New neighbors always welcome!
  • @davejandals and @HappyGamer73 Thank you so much for the strategy maps.

    Both of you are now to blame for my excessive shovel purchases. :D
    BulldogMom23 in Crawl to the Finish
  • 1pillform
    2037 posts Member
    Pretty sure its random. You can discuss spaces or pretend to know when the next one will appear all you want but each one is random. I'm 99% sure of that. But yes its guaranteed to show up next to the "rock" you find. That I know for a fact. Making graphs is a waste of time lol
    ~Always be Designing~
    Don't increase the Item Limit? Then I don't play. Period.
  • 1pillform wrote: »
    Pretty sure its random. You can discuss spaces or pretend to know when the next one will appear all you want but each one is random. I'm 99% sure of that. But yes its guaranteed to show up next to the "rock" you find. That I know for a fact. Making graphs is a waste of time lol

    I think you're missing the point. The maps are all about solving the puzzle by using the least amount of shovels possible.

    I would like to thank everyone who's contributed and I would also like to say that I've used the maps and had pretty spectacular results so far. Solved 3 maps and using 17 shovels on my last round.
  • anaquarind
    1496 posts Member
    Great discussion here, by "solving" this it will save us all shovels and get us the prizes faster. It's just so hard to remember, I may need to keep all my day's shovels for when I can get to a computer to follow the step by step instructions!

    For now I'll be adopting the @HappyGamer73 algorithm until anyone finds a more efficient way.

    Thanks!
    I like routine!
  • Here is the pattern I am using. It optimized clearing land.

    JosSxY8
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