Huge Opportunity Lost -- EA Fixes Things Quickly When It Helps Them?

hobbesisreal · August 2, 2018 5:25PM

With the launch of the Zoo event it was obvious that placing the Butterfly Gardens gave massive amount of XP.

Here is a rundown of what happenned and how it related to Farming.....

With my Bonus % plus Multiplier, I earn 96,770 XP per KEM and it currently takes around 9 KEMs to get one 3 donuts bonus. And I usually buy 63 KEMs per farming round for average of 21 donuts
Each KEM costs $14,400 in game cash so I spend around $835,000 per KEM farming round (actually something around $626,400 after I sell the KEMs back)
Each Butterfly Gardens gave me 48,385 XP
144 Butterfly Gardens cost same in game cash as 1 KEM and gave me the same average of 21 donuts farming them.
So for the cost of 1 KEM of $14,400, I could farm the same amount as 63 KEMs ($835,000).........and do it instantly so I could do it over and over and over again while watching TV.

So yesterday while watching a movie on TV I casually kept doing that.....and earned about 200 donuts. Which would have taken 40 hours of KEM farming (10 four hour rounds).

BUT THIS MORNING......EA fixed this and the Butterfly Gardens are back to normal minimal XP. It is funny how when there is glitch that is against EA, it takes less than 24 hours to recognize and release a fix.....but a glitch that hits only the player takes months to recognize and fix.

chrisdirai146 · August 2, 2018 5:51PM

I did well. My original estimate was 1k donuts but after careful math I found I made 731 donuts from the mistake. I was only able to 'farm' about 120 donuts this morning before the patch hit.

It feels a little satisfying to have finally gotten back for once though. I wholeheartedly agree with you that it is simply amazing how quick EA CAN react when it's not in their favor.

MildaMay · August 3, 2018 4:03AM

So EA has shut it down?

datasurgeon · August 3, 2018 4:49PM

Sounds like it. Can't say they are always quick. Remember the lasting handshakes, that lasted months. You could accumulate multiple visitors as long as you left 1

daved7637397 · August 3, 2018 6:02PM

hobbesisreal wrote: »

It is funny how when there is glitch this against EA, it takes less than 24 hours to recognize and release a fix.....but a glitch that hits only the player takes months to recognize and fix.

The roll back glitch didnt take months to "fix"

It took a year and a half!!

And its still occuring (although I only know of 2 occurrences since they "fixed" it) and they never really "fixed" it, they just rolled everyone back or gave them a template town.

Great response time for this one EA! Now fix things like this everytime! Or at least a little faster then a year and a half

LPNintendoITA · August 3, 2018 6:05PM

hobbesisreal wrote: »

BUT THIS MORNING......EA fixed this and the Butterfly Gardens are back to normal minimal XP. It is funny how when there is glitch that is against EA, it takes less than 24 hours to recognize and release a fix.....but a glitch that hits only the player takes months to recognize and fix.

to be fair fixing something this easy is... easy
pinpointing what causes donuts to go wrong or the dreaded glitch is not. there're lots of codes for those. this one was just a simple value

KrustyBrand · August 3, 2018 10:15PM

LPNintendoITA wrote: »

hobbesisreal wrote: »

BUT THIS MORNING......EA fixed this and the Butterfly Gardens are back to normal minimal XP. It is funny how when there is glitch that is against EA, it takes less than 24 hours to recognize and release a fix.....but a glitch that hits only the player takes months to recognize and fix.

to be fair fixing something this easy is... easy
pinpointing what causes donuts to go wrong or the dreaded glitch is not. there're lots of codes for those. this one was just a simple value

Agreed.

Mr_Martypants · August 3, 2018 11:09PM

I thought something was weird about the garden. Yesterday, I calculated it was giving 1000 XP on place, but I marked the result unreliable, thinking I had made an error. Today I am showing 10 XP on place.
Boo-Hiss.

Here's my before and after,
Zoo Wall, Was 100 XP, Now 5
Animal Habitat wall, Was 50 XP, Now 5
Zoo Lion, Was 500 XP, Now 5
Butterfly Garden, Was 1000 XP, Now 10

hobbesisreal · August 3, 2018 11:22PM

Thanks to always excellent details of each event....here is is exactly what EA updated with the Butterfly Garden Fix.....

August 2nd Update ("4_34_MoesArk_Patch1")

Moe's Ark Teaser's update and content was removed from the game.
Giant Lobster Scorpion's Bonus $ and XP was changed from 23.5% to 2.5%.
Placing Animal Habitat Wall (Small) now yields 5 instead of 50.
Placing Animal Habitat Wall (Big) and Springfield Zoo Wall now yield 5 instead of 100.
Placing Stacking Sheep now yields 5 instead of 200.
Placing Zoo Viewing Platform now yields 10 instead of 150.
Placing Zoo Lion Statue, Zoo Elephant Statue and Zoo Anteater Statue now yield 5 instead of 500.
Placing Marine Fountain now yields 10 instead of 750.
Placing Butterfly Garden and Marine World Sign, Wet 'N' Wacky World Sign and Wild Animal Kingdom Sign now yield 10 instead of 1.000.

@SolarDragon2012 .....are you THE Solar Dragon of ?

Willy9292 · August 3, 2018 11:31PM

hobbesisreal wrote: »

Thanks to SimpsonWiki.com always excellent details of each event....here is is exactly what EA updated with the Butterfly Garden Fix.....

August 2nd Update ("4_34_MoesArk_Patch1")
Moe's Ark Teaser's update and content was removed from the game.

Giant Lobster Scorpion's Bonus $ and XP was changed from 23.5% to 2.5%.

Placing Animal Habitat Wall (Small) now yields 5 instead of 50.

Placing Animal Habitat Wall (Big) and Springfield Zoo Wall now yield 5 instead of 100.

Placing Stacking Sheep now yields 5 instead of 200.

Placing Zoo Viewing Platform now yields 10 instead of 150.

Placing Zoo Lion Statue, Zoo Elephant Statue and Zoo Anteater Statue now yield 5 instead of 500.

Placing Marine Fountain now yields 10 instead of 750.

Placing Butterfly Garden and Marine World Sign, Wet 'N' Wacky World Sign and Wild Animal Kingdom Sign now yield 10 instead of 1.000.

@SolarDragon2012 .....are you THE Solar Dragon of SimpsonWiki.com ?

Which has been available here since the update:
https://forums.ea.com/en/the-simpsons-tapped-out/discussion/224631/what-changed-with-the-moes-ark-updates-7-31/p1

4kidsandacatdog · August 4, 2018 3:33AM

daved7637397 wrote: »

hobbesisreal wrote: »

It is funny how when there is glitch this against EA, it takes less than 24 hours to recognize and release a fix.....but a glitch that hits only the player takes months to recognize and fix.

The roll back glitch didnt take months to "fix"

It took a year and a half!!

And its still occuring (although I only know of 2 occurrences since they "fixed" it) and they never really "fixed" it, they just rolled everyone back or gave them a template town.

Great response time for this one EA! Now fix things like this everytime! Or at least a little faster then a year and a half

They fixed it? Not everyone got that memo. My husband still has it

168sean168 · August 4, 2018 5:02AM

I didn't use it as it is a bit cumbersome but it would have been good for those low on cash.

LawrenceCohen1 · August 4, 2018 11:34AM

I like how you put all those little

pictures in your post.

Loanet · August 4, 2018 2:22PM

The sole reason EA fixes XP issues at all is to slow levelling.

daved7637397 · August 4, 2018 2:35PM

4kidsandacatdog wrote: »

They fixed it? Not everyone got that memo. My husband still has it

@4kidsandacatdog
Thats why I put the quotes around the word fixed each time I used it. Fixed as in their version of fixed. Fixed as in its as "fixed" as its gonna get. But you are correct, it should say fixed as in not fixed. They did offer rollbacks and donut compensation a few months back, and I only know of 2 reports of new glitch cases since then, so maybe fixed as in fixed, sorta?

4kidsandacatdog · August 4, 2018 10:30PM

@daved7637397 ah ok I see what you did there.

I consider myself fortunate that I have had my game rolled back, presumably by someone who actually knew what he was doing, and haven't had a recurrence. My husband's game has been broken for months. He, unfortunately, doesn't have the ability to call often or at various times. He has managed to call at least three separate times, getting three separate individuals who flat out told him they wouldn't do anything. He's very close to quitting (I continue to persuade him otherwise).

Rumor was that a fix was in the works. Those people are probably laughing their a$$es off at us.

daved7637397 · August 4, 2018 10:34PM

4kidsandacatdog wrote: »

@daved7637397 ah ok I see what you did there.

I consider myself fortunate that I have had my game rolled back, presumably by someone who actually knew what he was doing, and haven't had a recurrence. My husband's game has been broken for months. He, unfortunately, doesn't have the ability to call often or at various times. He has managed to call at least three separate times, getting three separate individuals who flat out told him they wouldn't do anything. He's very close to quitting (I continue to persuade him otherwise).

Rumor was that a fix was in the works. Those people are probably laughing their a$$es off at us.

They've been ****'ing us about a fix for a very long time. I doubt we will ever see anything past what we already have. I think the fix is in

livegeekdie · August 10, 2018 10:47PM

I think I've struck the dreaded glitch. It happened after the update where they blew up Krustyland and the "help" person decided against a further rollback when we realised it hadn't fixed the initial issue so it's repeated all the subsequent issues. *arrrgggghhhhh* I'm in the midst of waiting for a specialist to investigate the issue. Mine was a classic mansion that disappeared when stored in my inventory and now every Springfield Heights building I store that isn't fully levelled gets reset to level 1. Unfortunately since Springfield Heights land area is so tiny that's been a lot of them as I try to rearrange things to make more of them fit at the same time as keeping it aesthetically pleasing.

Loanet · August 10, 2018 11:01PM

The hilarious thing, I think, is that the only reason to level up past 60 is for 1/2 free donuts a level. Your towns don't exactly have hit-points.

So the only reason for EA to make levelling up more difficult is to make it harder to get free donuts.

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