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So, EA wants me to buy 900 donuts, aka a Store Full for $49.99 USC, in exchange for three buildings and 37 tokens that I can not purchase anything with? (I assume I will be able to get 12 donuts per token but since the beginning of the event went so fast, I can't say for sure)

Do not get me wrong, I would be happy to chip in a $20 spot to help the sustainability of this game but you're asking for $50 for a game that has no guarantee to last into the new year?

I feel hesitation with this. There are items I do not have in this game, granted I have almost all but there are still a few things (cough* respectable Moe *cough) that could be released in the Black Friday box but my window says "there is currently nothing available in this category". Everything that has ever been released should be in that Store category. If there were additional items to be had with a $49.99 purchase, I would jump on it, but that's not the case for me.

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  • I don't know why they felt the need to basically offer the Donut Factory again, under a different name and all they changed (outside of the name) was the building's footprint being smaller.

    I mean, couldn't they have just re-offered the LDD again? I don't think anyone would've complained.

    The only positive I see is getting 12 donuts a day as opposed to 6.

    I'm still on the fence about it, I was going to do it; but now I'm having second thoughts.

    Would at least like to get the VHS Village...
    Trying to control the horizontal & the vertical. Do not adjust your TV.
  • empathy77 wrote: »
    Do not get me wrong, I would be happy to chip in a $20 spot to help the sustainability of this game but you're asking for $50 for a game that has no guarantee to last into the new year?

    Would you be fine with spending $30 or $40? Where do you draw the line? When did you start playing and how much have you spent on the game? If the game exists for years but doesn't have new content would that be ok? Not getting on your case, just bringing up issues that people can debate about.
  • empathy77 wrote: »
    Do not get me wrong, I would be happy to chip in a $20 spot to help the sustainability of this game but you're asking for $50 for a game that has no guarantee to last into the new year?

    Would you be fine with spending $30 or $40? Where do you draw the line? When did you start playing and how much have you spent on the game? If the game exists for years but doesn't have new content would that be ok? Not getting on your case, just bringing up issues that people can debate about.

    Been playing since May 2013, since then I have spent around $500, I have no problem giving some cash for this game. The only problem is the lack of confidence I have about EA keeping this game going, this forum is dead compared to the highs several years ago and that makes me think there is lack of interest in this game, and EA has treated this game like an unwanted step child lately.
  • empathy77 wrote: »
    this forum is dead compared to the highs several years ago and that makes me think there is lack of interest in this game, and EA has treated this game like an unwanted step child lately.

    Well we don't have access to the usage stats, but I don't think think forum ever accurately reflected general interest in the game. The forum usually was about people who were obsessed with the game, squeezing out the best techniques/strategies/etc. or obsessing about released and unreleased content. Now that there's less content and less of a need to figure out how to craft x items in y days, it's a lot quieter here. (What became of wadebear?)

    As long as there are lots of casual players who toss a few dollars each towards the game I think it will last for awhile, although it may be in a more minimal way content/event-wise than the hardcore people would like.

    I can't see them charging $50 for a building and then ending the game a few months later. People would riot.
  • I didn’t buy the 900 donut package. I bought less 300. I bought another 300 but it didn’t credit me with buying them. So I am short of the required amount for the 25 golden tokens. Does it only credit you with buying donuts when you get the golden token donut packs. Somehow there should have been a warning.
  • I didn’t buy the 900 donut package. I bought less 300. I bought another 300 but it didn’t credit me with buying them. So I am short of the required amount for the 25 golden tokens. Does it only credit you with buying donuts when you get the golden token donut packs. Somehow there should have been a warning.

    This ☝️I did the exact same thing. Not happy 😡

  • @hollander2uk @shanemadrid There was a glitch with donut purchases counting for the questline.
    You can either get your money back from the app store or run the gauntlet with EA help.
    https://help.ea.com/en/contact-us/?product=the-simpsons-tapped-out
    Phone or chat during US business hours Central time is best or you can try them on Twitter
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  • Each coin bonus is only applied to the first purchase of each donut pack. For instance; if you select the $1.99 pack you will receive the bonus token and then the $1.99 pack will be displayed without the bonus token icon. I purchased the 900 donut pack and now it is the only option without the token icon, you should see the same for your 300 donut packs.
  • All they did is repeat the exact same boxes as last year's black Friday sales. How lazy EA! If there was anything different in the gold coin boxes I would be tempted to purchase those. So disappointed. :/
    Be a part of another EA endorsed TSTO fan site at www.tapped-out.co.uk :)
  • I've been playing since the beginning, invested a couple hundred dollars but refuse to spend a single penny on a broken game. I got the glitch a few years ago and I stayed with it even though all of us who were affected by it got nothing but the run around. Just my personal thought on throwing money at it.
  • niahunt
    321 posts Member
    edited November 2019
    I’m afraid I am in the once bitten,twice shy club...ie purchased donuts that included a free Campervan....received neither donuts or van.
    Got absolutely nowhere with EA & in the end had to contact the Apple App Store who to their credit refunded the money within 48 hours.

    The above was only $14.99 AUD..but this latest package is a whopping $79.99 AUD....sorry, but no..I don’t feel confident for the main part that the same thing won’t happen again!
    Post edited by niahunt on
  • I've been crossing my fingers that Golden Goose Realty would be a Black Friday offering, but unless I somehow am overlooking it, it's not here. I did gain a few new buildings, but that was the one I was hoping for the most.
  • empathy77 wrote: »
    So, EA wants me to buy 900 donuts, aka a Store Full for $49.99 USC, in exchange for three buildings and 37 tokens that I can not purchase anything with? (I assume I will be able to get 12 donuts per token but since the beginning of the event went so fast, I can't say for sure)

    Do not get me wrong, I would be happy to chip in a $20 spot to help the sustainability of this game but you're asking for $50 for a game that has no guarantee to last into the new year?

    I feel hesitation with this. There are items I do not have in this game, granted I have almost all but there are still a few things (cough* respectable Moe *cough) that could be released in the Black Friday box but my window says "there is currently nothing available in this category". Everything that has ever been released should be in that Store category. If there were additional items to be had with a $49.99 purchase, I would jump on it, but that's not the case for me.

    If you don't want to pay 49.99, then DON'T!!! If you are dissatisfied with the game and the direction it's headed in, the only way to make your dissatisfaction known is to withhold your money.
  • awshux915 wrote: »
    I've been crossing my fingers that Golden Goose Realty would be a Black Friday offering, but unless I somehow am overlooking it, it's not here. I did gain a few new buildings, but that was the one I was hoping for the most.

    Even if it was there I couldn't have got it, I have no where near enough donuts to chance getting it and instead getting other stuff I don't want.
    Just sell it straight.
    I wanted to do it yesterday but I will invariably do it tomorrow (ish).
  • I currently have over 3000 Donuts. Bloodmobile farmed, since there's little else left to do with my vast swathes of ingame dollars (except when fences come up). Buying these extra donuts is pointless to me.

    This Friday though, EA decides to offer something that you can ONLY get by paying money. Quite a lot of money, in a short space of time, in an otherwise free game. You can't earn or buy golden tokens in any way other than real, actual money. Not even with donuts.

    Hey, it could have been a great money sink. 1 million Springfield Dollars per Golden Token. That's a lot of money some of us could have gotten rid of, as more and more people hit their money caps.

    This sale is aimed specifically at Whales. This is also a test to find out how many people will actually participate in this kind of Event.
  • Loanet wrote: »
    I currently have over 3000 Donuts. Bloodmobile farmed, since there's little else left to do with my vast swathes of ingame dollars (except when fences come up). Buying these extra donuts is pointless to me.

    This Friday though, EA decides to offer something that you can ONLY get by paying money. Quite a lot of money, in a short space of time, in an otherwise free game. You can't earn or buy golden tokens in any way other than real, actual money. Not even with donuts.

    Hey, it could have been a great money sink. 1 million Springfield Dollars per Golden Token. That's a lot of money some of us could have gotten rid of, as more and more people hit their money caps.

    This sale is aimed specifically at Whales. This is also a test to find out how many people will actually participate in this kind of Event.

    I don't know if EA has done something like this golden token thing before on TSTO or wherever.
    But it is very common on Mirrors of Albion run by Games Insight, I can't remember the circumstances of it though, I don't think it was a boss fight, if I rightly remember I didn't play it much because the freemium tokens didn't get as far as premium ones.
    I used to play it, I stopped to concentrate on TSTO.

    Perhaps it's because Disney are now involved and there are some ideas they want to try.

    That said, you have to pay the developers to run and maintain a free game somehow.
    I wanted to do it yesterday but I will invariably do it tomorrow (ish).
  • 11EEvey
    2642 posts Member
    edited November 2019
    They ran this very same sale with different items Last Black Friday. (Golden Tokens)
    They'll do it again.
    It isn't the evil Disney doing it.
    Yes this makes these items exclusive to those who can or will pay actual cash for them.
    There is nothing wrong with that.
    They have a separate quest line (All American Auction) that has items you can just play the game and win.
    Having this for cash purchase only does not make the game impossible to play during this event, you just can't access all of it and it will not keep you from playing the game.
    The whole purpose of it is to make money.
    OMG they are so evil for wanting their game to make money.
    And the game is not a FREE game it is a Freemium game

    " What Is a Freemium?

    A combination of the words "free" and "premium," the term freemium is a type of business model that involves offering customers both complementary and extra-cost services. A company provides simple and basic services for free for the user to try; it also offers more advanced services or additional features at a premium."
    *edited to add that Yes they ran the same Golden Token sale with different items last year. I remember it, but Google confirmed it.
    Post edited by 11EEvey on
  • @EllieGuseman First off, I'm not sure how well you read my post because you seem to have misinterpreted some points.

    I was not referring to All American Auction, but Golden Token.
    As I played this event last year and bought the only three IGC items, that are also the only three this year :'(:'(:'( , and I do not remember the Golden Token last year.

    I do not think Disney are evil, soppy and misguided, definitely, but not evil.
    The first Mary Poppins film had them doing a fox hunt and a steeple chase effectively at the same time :s , I cannot find the right words to describe how wrong that is. Probably the first recorded case of Brit bashing.
    I saw a clip of Glee to see what all the fuss is about and instead witnessed the cast murder butcher and slaughter Van Halen's Jump :s:'(:s , and I am definitely not repeating the words that I found for that.

    When I didn't play MoA, I was referring to the Token game not the game as a whole, and I stopped playing the game as a whole when I lost my progress at Level 117 or higher and I did not want to go back through it all again, at least not at that moment in time, plus I had started TSTO and there was not enough time for both.
    Would I go back, yes, if I could get my progress reinstated.

    I do not have a problem with people paying to play, it is not a race and there is no competition, we each do our own thing and I will do mine as far as I can go, which would be getting up at 4am to do event jobs and put them back in.
    Disney are not a charity, this costs them money, so they want to get something back to pay for all overheads at the very least.

    The last two paragraphs were not being critical of EA or Disney.
    Merely noting that the game was downloaded for free and they run and maintain it when no users on this iPad pays for it, that said, if it should be upgraded this year, rather than just throwing it away I will ask if I can reuse it, and if circumstances allow I may be able to pay for something in the future. :p:p:p

    I have been playing since The Invasion Before Christmas 2017 and have seen a disconnect between premium and freemium stuff and I do not have a problem with this, it is as I would expect, my only concern would be "am I playing freemium wrong".
    I do not do KEM farming, I do not have ready access to the game to make the most of it, and when I did, I only gained a handful of donuts and rapidly reduced my IGC, which made it difficult to buy land.
    So I buy what is wanted more for aesthetics or what can be used than anything else, I do not have or want loads of wailing walls on parade for example.
    I wanted to do it yesterday but I will invariably do it tomorrow (ish).
  • That was a general comment not specifically directed at you @KLmaker or I would have tagged you
  • This game has enough free- and enough -me-, but lately there's been too much -um.
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