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ANZAC DAY - LEST WE FORGET

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  • LazyUmberto
    95 posts
    edited April 2013
    nancalmei wrote:
    ... I have yet to watch a show or film that covered anything related to Anzac Day, meanwhile, he's exposed in so many different ways to all the American holidays, even the trivia...l

    There are a few great WWI films about the Aussie contribution to the war... One was about miners at the European front and another called Gallipoli I think that starred a young Mel Gibson. Google it! :)
  • vercettitx
    116 posts
    edited April 2013
    vercettitx wrote:
    I've never heard of it. Damn my American education.
    I'll be visiting Wikipedia shortly to learn more about it.

    Don't blame your American education, perhaps you didn't listen well in class. Australia is one of our closest and most dear allies, having fought with us hand in hand in every single major battle since WWII.

    As an American, I hold Australia and all of her people quite dear.


    Or maybe I wasn't taught about it in class. Like I've already said. Perhaps you should troll someone else with your ignorant comments and don't try and tell me what I was or wasn't taught in school.
  • Jeebus42
    246 posts
    edited April 2013
    For a country were "close" to, I've never heard of this, and I don't live under a rock.
    Well good Anzac, Aussies. I'll tip a Coopers your way come happy hour. Cheers!
  • emmcee1
    8388 posts Member
    edited April 2013
    Jeebus42 wrote:
    For a country were "close" to, I've never heard of this, and I don't live under a rock.
    Well good Anzac, Aussies. I'll tip a Coopers your way come happy hour. Cheers!


    Anzac stands for Australia,New Zealand Army Corp
  • Waterboyeee
    73 posts
    edited April 2013
    vercettitx wrote:
    vercettitx wrote:
    I've never heard of it. Damn my American education.
    I'll be visiting Wikipedia shortly to learn more about it.

    Don't blame your American education, perhaps you didn't listen well in class. Australia is one of our closest and most dear allies, having fought with us hand in hand in every single major battle since WWII.

    As an American, I hold Australia and all of her people quite dear.


    Or maybe I wasn't taught about it in class. Like I've already said. Perhaps you should troll someone else with your ignorant comments and don't try and tell me what I was or wasn't taught in school.

    So you are telling me that (assuming you only finished grade school), you were never taught anything about Australia? You never watched any documentaries about any American history, or wars with American involvement?

    Also, you should familiarize yourself with the term "troll" and "ignorant" before using them, I was never disrespectful.
  • sackXchange
    129 posts
    edited April 2013
    dominic115 wrote:
    Anzac? What is this Aussie garbage...

    Why must every village have an idiot? Instead of sounding like a moron you could have educated yourself on the subject a little first.
  • Jeebus42
    246 posts
    edited April 2013
    Some are more blissful in their own ignorance, I guess.
    This went well with my Cherrios this am
    "The more you know"
    http://www.awm.gov.au/commemoration/anzac/anzac_tradition.asp
  • dominic115
    938 posts Member
    edited April 2013
    vercettitx wrote:
    vercettitx wrote:
    I've never heard of it. Damn my American education.
    I'll be visiting Wikipedia shortly to learn more about it.

    Don't blame your American education, perhaps you didn't listen well in class. Australia is one of our closest and most dear allies, having fought with us hand in hand in every single major battle since WWII.

    As an American, I hold Australia and all of her people quite dear.


    Or maybe I wasn't taught about it in class. Like I've already said. Perhaps you should troll someone else with your ignorant comments and don't try and tell me what I was or wasn't taught in school.

    So you are telling me that (assuming you only finished grade school), you were never taught anything about Australia? You never watched any documentaries about any American history, or wars with American involvement?

    Also, you should familiarize yourself with the term "troll" and "ignorant" before using them, I was never disrespectful.

    What this guy is saying is in most schools you don't learn much about other countries, except major events which, this is. Assuming this would come under History, here in England, we don't learn about foreign events? Why should we! Of course we learn about massive events, WW2, WW1, Cold War... We just learn things like English Civil War, Victorians, Stuarts. All English events! But Australia is tucked away in the bottom of Earth and don't take this offensive anyone but there isn't many interesting events in Australia, the only thing I have learnt is it was a big Alcatraz Island(a prison). And basic stuff, capital, animals that live there.. We don't all sit at home at night and watch documentaries, in my opinion they are boring. However stop griefing people just because some people didnt know what Anzac Day is. And no I'm not trying to be rude so don't say, 'learn respect' 'omg we learn about your country learn ours!'
  • Waterboyeee
    73 posts
    edited April 2013
    dominic115 wrote:
    vercettitx wrote:
    vercettitx wrote:
    I've never heard of it. Damn my American education.
    I'll be visiting Wikipedia shortly to learn more about it.

    Don't blame your American education, perhaps you didn't listen well in class. Australia is one of our closest and most dear allies, having fought with us hand in hand in every single major battle since WWII.

    As an American, I hold Australia and all of her people quite dear.


    Or maybe I wasn't taught about it in class. Like I've already said. Perhaps you should troll someone else with your ignorant comments and don't try and tell me what I was or wasn't taught in school.

    So you are telling me that (assuming you only finished grade school), you were never taught anything about Australia? You never watched any documentaries about any American history, or wars with American involvement?

    Also, you should familiarize yourself with the term "troll" and "ignorant" before using them, I was never disrespectful.

    What this guy is saying is in most schools you don't learn much about other countries, except major events which, this is. Assuming this would come under History, here in England, we don't learn about foreign events? Why should we! Of course we learn about massive events, WW2, WW1, Cold War... We just learn things like English Civil War, Victorians, Stuarts. All English events! But Australia is tucked away in the bottom of Earth and don't take this offensive anyone but there isn't many interesting events in Australia, the only thing I have learnt is it was a big Alcatraz Island(a prison). And basic stuff, capital, animals that live there.. We don't all sit at home at night and watch documentaries, in my opinion they are boring. However stop griefing people just because some people didnt know what Anzac Day is. And no I'm not trying to be rude so don't say, 'learn respect' 'omg we learn about your country learn ours!'

    Yeah, I hear ya. I honestly don't have an issue with what vercettitx said, personally, to the level of being a troll, ignorant, or disrespectful. I just didn't care for all "American education" to be lumped together in a negative way like that. I went to school in the United States and I was taught, and have heard of the Anzacs, and other important aspects of other countries. I am sure Americans could say the same. :)
  • nancalmei
    215 posts
    edited April 2013
    nancalmei wrote:
    ... I have yet to watch a show or film that covered anything related to Anzac Day, meanwhile, he's exposed in so many different ways to all the American holidays, even the trivia...l

    There are a few great WWI films about the Aussie contribution to the war... One was about miners at the European front and another called Gallipoli I think that starred a young Mel Gibson. Google it! :)

    I'm boycotting Mel Gibson at the moment for various reasons, some obvious, but I'll ask my boyfriend. He probably remembers a few. If it's not current it doesn't exactly hit my desk Stateside.
  • mcduck90
    940 posts
    edited April 2013
    Never heard of it. But without wanting to sound disrespectful you didn't see anyone else e.g. me creating a thread on the 25th of March or 28th of October (Although, I wasn't registered as a member then). It's a matter of perspective. Example. For the next decade all will remember about how two Chechens killed 3 people and wounded 100. But who remembers that in 2004, a school hostage situation by Chechens etc ended with 300 hostages dying? (Most of them children.)

    The irony is that at the time of that incident the Balkan wars had ended and the Izmir catastrophe happened a few years later and still I've never heard of anything in between... except from the fact my great grandfather was send with the British troops to Russia... *shrug*

  • kmendo88
    432 posts
    edited April 2013
    dominic115 wrote:
    vercettitx wrote:
    vercettitx wrote:
    I've never heard of it. Damn my American education.
    I'll be visiting Wikipedia shortly to learn more about it.

    Don't blame your American education, perhaps you didn't listen well in class. Australia is one of our closest and most dear allies, having fought with us hand in hand in every single major battle since WWII.

    As an American, I hold Australia and all of her people quite dear.


    Or maybe I wasn't taught about it in class. Like I've already said. Perhaps you should troll someone else with your ignorant comments and don't try and tell me what I was or wasn't taught in school.

    So you are telling me that (assuming you only finished grade school), you were never taught anything about Australia? You never watched any documentaries about any American history, or wars with American involvement?

    Also, you should familiarize yourself with the term "troll" and "ignorant" before using them, I was never disrespectful.

    What this guy is saying is in most schools you don't learn much about other countries, except major events which, this is. Assuming this would come under History, here in England, we don't learn about foreign events? Why should we! Of course we learn about massive events, WW2, WW1, Cold War... We just learn things like English Civil War, Victorians, Stuarts. All English events! But Australia is tucked away in the bottom of Earth and don't take this offensive anyone but there isn't many interesting events in Australia, the only thing I have learnt is it was a big Alcatraz Island(a prison). And basic stuff, capital, animals that live there.. We don't all sit at home at night and watch documentaries, in my opinion they are boring. However stop griefing people just because some people didnt know what Anzac Day is. And no I'm not trying to be rude so don't say, 'learn respect' 'omg we learn about your country learn ours!'

    Yeah, I hear ya. I honestly don't have an issue with what vercettitx said, personally, to the level of being a troll, ignorant, or disrespectful. I just didn't care for all "American education" to be lumped together in a negative way like that. I went to school in the United States and I was taught, and have heard of the Anzacs, and other important aspects of other countries. I am sure Americans could say the same. :)

    You really don't learn much about other countries in American schools. Maybe you heard about some of this stuff, but I'd bet money that most Americans have not.

    I doubt this is really different anywhere else. Other than major historical events where our histories align, the knowledge most other people have about the US comes from our media. Which is pretty terrible.
  • nancalmei
    215 posts
    edited April 2013
    Yeah, I hear ya. I honestly don't have an issue with what vercettitx said, personally, to the level of being a troll, ignorant, or disrespectful. I just didn't care for all "American education" to be lumped together in a negative way like that. I went to school in the United States and I was taught, and have heard of the Anzacs, and other important aspects of other countries. I am sure Americans could say the same. :)

    People forget that some states have horrible, incomplete and completely rewritten (history, sciences) curriculums that are decided upon by local politicians instead of qualified and neutral educators which is why education is so broken in this country and why no two high school graduates will have the same level of knowledge on the same subject even if they both attended public school but in different parts of the country. I'm not surprised that certain states or counties within a state would perpetuate the idea that the US accomplishes/d everything on it's own but even in some American movies, at least about Vietnam, there's mention of the Australians being there. I guess one just has to pay attention to the drama and not just the action. Also, the so-called Coalition of the Willing during Iraq, Australia's in there too and that's within the past 10 years. I personally remember finding out about the Australia/Vietnam War connection watching a movie when I was a kid or perhaps it was that TV show China Beach.
  • vercettitx
    116 posts
    edited April 2013
    vercettitx wrote:
    vercettitx wrote:
    I've never heard of it. Damn my American education.
    I'll be visiting Wikipedia shortly to learn more about it.

    Don't blame your American education, perhaps you didn't listen well in class. Australia is one of our closest and most dear allies, having fought with us hand in hand in every single major battle since WWII.

    As an American, I hold Australia and all of her people quite dear.


    Or maybe I wasn't taught about it in class. Like I've already said. Perhaps you should troll someone else with your ignorant comments and don't try and tell me what I was or wasn't taught in school.

    So you are telling me that (assuming you only finished grade school), you were never taught anything about Australia? You never watched any documentaries about any American history, or wars with American involvement?

    Also, you should familiarize yourself with the term "troll" and "ignorant" before using them, I was never disrespectful.


    Like I've already said before, WE WEREN'T TAUGHT ABOUT ANZAC DAY IN SCHOOL. Grow up and stop trolling. You're trolling because you decided to leave your ignorant comment directed at me. I listened in school. That's a fact. Implying I'm an idiot because I didnt know what this holiday was is EXTREMELY DISRESPECTFUL.
    Maybe you should familiarize yourself with the term douc hebag, because you're acting like one.

  • Waterboyeee
    73 posts
    edited April 2013
    vercettitx wrote:
    Like I've already said before, WE WEREN'T TAUGHT ABOUT ANZAC DAY IN SCHOOL. Grow up and stop trolling. You're trolling because you decided to leave your ignorant comment directed at me. I listened in school. That's a fact. Implying I'm an idiot because I didnt know what this holiday was is EXTREMELY DISRESPECTFUL.
    Maybe you should familiarize yourself with the term douc hebag, because you're acting like one.

    Quoted to let people enjoy before you delete or edit again, lol.
  • vercettitx
    116 posts
    edited April 2013
    vercettitx wrote:
    Like I've already said before, WE WEREN'T TAUGHT ABOUT ANZAC DAY IN SCHOOL. Grow up and stop trolling. You're trolling because you decided to leave your ignorant comment directed at me. I listened in school. That's a fact. Implying I'm an idiot because I didnt know what this holiday was is EXTREMELY DISRESPECTFUL.
    Maybe you should familiarize yourself with the term douc hebag, because you're acting like one.

    Quoted to let people enjoy before you delete or edit again, lol.

    Quoted and edited again **** ebag lol

    Yeah, you're definitely not trolling, huh? Lol
  • LazyUmberto
    95 posts
    edited April 2013
    Seriously, no need to get worked up.

    I wasn't taught ANYTHING about ANZAC Day or Gallipoli in any level of education in Canada despite going to well-ranked schools AND studying history during those specific periods. Whenever WW1 came up, the focus was always on the horrors of trench warfare in Europe, the rapid industrialization of weaponry/technology coupled with the slow methods of transportation, the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand, and WW1 Treaty of Versailles which created grievances that led to the rise of **** and WW2. That's about it. And Canada is part of the commonwealth.

    Gallipoli wasn't covered and even more obscure but significant aspects of WW1 were not covered but are being widely studied today. And this shi t is quite interesting ... like:

    1) India had the largest number of voluntary soldiers who fought and died in Europe during WW1, what was their motivation? Why did they sign up in such numbers to fight alongside their 'oppressors'?

    2) Little is know about African troops who also fought bravely and valiantly. I recently read an obscure book/diary of a WW1 Canadian frontline soldier who spoke glowingly of the '****' soldiers who fought with extraordinary courage, bravery, and ultimate sacrifice.

    3) WW1 has DIRECT ties to modern conflicts in Serbia/Kosovo, the Middle East etc. Very little research is being done on a micro level to understand just how these conflicts continue to fuel ethnic, ideological, and national tensions.

    4) The Armenian Genocide

    It's be great if we learned about this. Historians call WW1 "the forgotten war" because so little is taught about it anywhere besides the 30 sec commercial sound bites.

    Just my 2 cents... :)
  • vercettitx
    116 posts
    edited April 2013
    Seriously, no need to get worked up.

    I wasn't taught ANYTHING about ANZAC Day or Gallipoli in any level of education in Canada despite going to well-ranked schools AND studying history during those specific periods. Whenever WW1 came up, the focus was always on the horrors of trench warfare in Europe, the rapid industrialization of weaponry/technology couple with the slow methods of transportation, the assignation of Archduke Ferdinand, and WW1 treaty of Versailles which created grievances that led to the rise of **** and WW2. That's about it. And Canada is part of the commonwealth.

    Gallipoli wasn't covered and even more obscure but significant aspects of WW1 were not covered but are being widely studied today. And this shi t is quite interesting ... like:

    1) India had the largest number of voluntary soldiers who fought and died in Europe during WW1, what was their motivation? Why did they sign up in such numbers to fight alongside their 'oppressors'?

    2) Little is know about African troops who also fought bravely and valiantly. I recently read an obscure book/diary of a WW1 Canadian frontline soldier who spoke glowingly of the '****' soldiers who fought with extraordinary courage, bravery, and ultimate sacrifice.

    3) WW1 has DIRECT ties to modern conflicts in Serbia/Kosovo, the Middle East etc. Very little research is being done on a micro level to understand just how these conflicts continue to fuel ethnic, ideological, and national tensions.

    It's be great if we learned about this. Historians call WW1 "the forgotten war" because so little is taught about it anywhere besides the 30 sec commercial sound bites.

    Just my 2 cents... :)


    Thanks for the info. I've been reading about it this morning and it's pretty interesting. Sorry to get into with that troll and derail the thread. My apologies.
  • slivdawg77
    422 posts
    edited April 2013
    Iv never heard WW1 as the forgotten war iv heard of Korea being the forgotten.war!
  • AAASmuck
    124 posts Member
    edited April 2013
    Much respect to the ANZAC Forces of WW1. I wholeheartedly approve this thread.

    Just one thing though;

    Morning: A time of day
    Mourning: A time of sorrow
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