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rolybert7
2776 posts Member
I started smoking E-Cigs in January and have been smoke free since. Heck I barely even use it anymore.. A great alternative to smoking and an even better way to quit.

But I disagree about it being sold to minors, the goal is to get rid of the idea of smoking all together. Unless you mean kids who get pressured into smoking and want to be able to quit.

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  • XxEpicnezzxX
    1367 posts
    edited May 2013
    rolybert7 wrote:
    Its ridiculous that they are not sold to minors( Ones without nicotine) It is a stupid electronic device that resembles a cigarette with no drugs of any type in them IE: tar and nicotine.

    If I had teenagers I would prefer they use these than real cigarettes (which they will get any way legal or not) I myself started smoking when I was in high school.
    Ima go tell on you!!! :mrgreen: You know what they say, "Puff & Duff!" :mrgreen:
    "I'm here to tell you about drugs and alcohol and why they're bad, m'kay? So, first of all, uh, smokin's bad. You shouldn't smoke. And, uh, alcohol is bad. You shouldn't drink alcohol. And, uh, as for drugs, well, drugs are bad. You shouldn't do drugs. Okay, that about wraps up my introduction, now uh, are there any questions?”
  • rolybert7
    2776 posts Member
    edited May 2013
    ddashrock wrote:
    I started smoking E-Cigs in January and have been smoke free since. Heck I barely even use it anymore.. A great alternative to smoking and an even better way to quit.

    But I disagree about it being sold to minors, the goal is to get rid of the idea of smoking all together. Unless you mean kids who get pressured into smoking and want to be able to quit.
    Thats what I am talking about. If I found out my 16 year old was already hooked on smoking I should be able to offer them this alternative legally since there is nothing in these things that are being regulated by any government agency. If the issue is that it simulates smoking so does candy cigarettes and I was doing those at 5 years old :shock: :mrgreen:

    BTW There is NO way to get rid of the idea of smoking as long as there are smokers. :thumbup:

    BTW 2 I quit 12 years ago :thumbup: :thumbup:
  • rolybert7
    2776 posts Member
    edited May 2013
    rolybert7 wrote:
    Its ridiculous that they are not sold to minors( Ones without nicotine) It is a stupid electronic device that resembles a cigarette with no drugs of any type in them IE: tar and nicotine.

    If I had teenagers I would prefer they use these than real cigarettes (which they will get any way legal or not) I myself started smoking when I was in high school.
    Ima go tell on you!!! :mrgreen: You know what they say, "Puff & Duff!" :mrgreen:
    "I'm here to tell you about drugs and alcohol and why they're bad, m'kay? So, first of all, uh, smokin's bad. You shouldn't smoke. And, uh, alcohol is bad. You shouldn't drink alcohol. And, uh, as for drugs, well, drugs are bad. You shouldn't do drugs. Okay, that about wraps up my introduction, now uh, are there any questions?”
    Yes smoking is bad but breathing in water vapor is not. :mrgreen:
  • XxEpicnezzxX
    1367 posts
    edited May 2013
    rolybert7 wrote:
    ddashrock wrote:
    I started smoking E-Cigs in January and have been smoke free since. Heck I barely even use it anymore.. A great alternative to smoking and an even better way to quit.

    But I disagree about it being sold to minors, the goal is to get rid of the idea of smoking all together. Unless you mean kids who get pressured into smoking and want to be able to quit.
    Thats what I am talking about. If I found out my 16 year old was already hooked on smoking I should be able to offer them this alternative legally since there is nothing in these things that are being regulated by any government agency. If the issue is that it simulates smoking so does candy cigarettes and I was doing those at 5 years old :shock: :mrgreen:

    BTW There is NO way to get rid of the idea of smoking as long as there are smokers. :thumbup:

    BTW 2 I quit 12 years ago :thumbup: :thumbup:
    That some story! :mrgreen: You don't know where that quote is from?! :cry:
  • rolybert7
    2776 posts Member
    edited May 2013
    The way I feel on this subject is kids who will smoke will smoke no matter what we do. These devices should be available to them as an alternative. At least until smoking is eliminated from society 100%.

  • sherryt07
    3273 posts Member
    edited May 2013
    October 6, 2013 will be three years since I quit smoking. I could never have done it without e-cigs. I still use mine everyday, but I HAVE NOT had a single real cigarette in the whole time since I quit.
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  • GodaiNoBaka
    20 posts
    edited May 2013
    Besides the already expressed concern that minors might find e-cigs useful for kicking the habit, there's also the very real possibility that it might serve to prevent a few of them getting addicted in the first place. OK, your friends are all smoking? You can refuse to join in, and be ostracized. You can join in. Or you can use the e-cig, which might get you teased a little bit (or might not...hell, anything electronic is cool...), but won't make you stand out quite so much.

    We'd all like to think that our kids are brave and able to do the right thing in the face of their peer's disapproval. But in reality, many of them are not. Why take away a safer alternative?
  • Samwellthefirst
    201 posts
    edited May 2013
    I understand the argument, and agree with it, but realistically what sixteen YO is going to want to quit smoking? I was 19 going on 20 before I realised that smoking isn't for making you look cool, and many of my friends now don't seem to grasp the concept of just how bad it is for you as you get older. Developmentally at 16 years the brain hasn't got the capacity to realise the later life consequences in the same way as an adult mind does. Many teens who are caught smoking will pull the "but I want to quit" line. But that's rarely true. Truth is they just want mum/dad to stop being so hard on them about smoking, which at that age is cool. Nuff said 8)
  • rolybert7
    2776 posts Member
    edited May 2013
    I understand the argument, and agree with it, but realistically what sixteen YO is going to want to quit smoking? I was 19 going on 20 before I realised that smoking isn't for making you look cool, and many of my friends now don't seem to grasp the concept of just how bad it is for you as you get older. Developmentally at 16 years the brain hasn't got the capacity to realise the later life consequences in the same way as an adult mind does. Many teens who are caught smoking will pull the "but I want to quit" line. But that's rarely true. Truth is they just want mum/dad to stop being so hard on them about smoking, which at that age is cool. Nuff said 8)
    i agree with you 100% but why deny them a safer alternative
  • kmendo88
    432 posts
    edited May 2013
    I use an electronic 'hookah' which is the same concept but with flavors.

    I also use an oil pen for hash. Does that count? :lol:
  • pharrah2003
    920 posts
    edited May 2013
    Love the e-cig topic!

    I smoked cigs for a very long time.. Think I came out of my mom with a cig in my hand.
    Several years ago, I was really feeling it in my chest. A constant pain/discomfort. But I really enjoy smoking, I am what I call a true smoker, not simply a social smokers. Social smokers can stop when they want, but if you are a true smoker... Its a whole other story.

    So about 3 years ago it became very real to me that if I don't do something, this is going to kill me. That is when I started to look into E Cigs. From my research I found "white cloud" aka "Cirrus" to be the best for a true smoke to switch over as some of the other brands.. I don't know what it is, but people seem to go back to cigarettes. I have been an E-Cig fan for 3 years now, no more chest pains, no more sucking in all the tar and carcinogenics (cancer causing chemicals), and have helped numerous coworkers and friends (long time smokers) make the transition and my hubby and even some strangers that come and ask me about it too. Not only health wise am I happy about this life choice I made, but my hubby and I save sooo much money (especially because we were American Spirit smokers), my hands no longer smell gross, with e cigs I can smoke in my car, in the house... The list of benefits go on and on. My work even let's me use it at my desk. It is so funny how many people at my work now smoke at their desk... Productions up, lol.

    Yes... I am a very big fan. :)

    And though, I didn't go to e-cigs to quit, it definitely would be easier fo me to do it now than then.
    Tip: if you are a true smoker at about a pack a day start with extra nicotine one, then work down to regular. I found this helped me to stick to it the first month. Now I can smoke the light or regular just fine.


    As for minors having access, I believe the laws make sense as they are for and in relation to what it represents (habit of smoking) which is dangerous. And truth be told, if minors want to smoke... Like we did when we were underage they will figure out a way to do it.. So at that point they can also make that choice it is going to be a cig or an e-cig.
  • LettuceNTomatos
    35 posts
    edited May 2013
    rolybert7 wrote:
    Its ridiculous that they are not sold to minors( Ones without nicotine).

    If I had teenagers I would prefer they use these than real cigarettes (which they will get any way legal or not)

    Sure.... Kids wouldn't abuse this by purchasing bottles of concentrated nicotine to brew their own juice at home. Kids are already abusing stimulants *cough* ADHD meds *cough*, and you think they wouldn't game the system for a nicotine?

    You want harmless cigarette-look-alikes so your kid can look cool? Well this store sells them, and they worked for me back in the 5th grade. ;)
  • st33lcas3
    256 posts Member
    edited May 2013
    E cigs do help people quit regular smokes. I smoked for over 25 years and switched to e cigs a couple of years ago. They helped me kick tobacco, that's for sure.

    However, the last brand I "smoked" (Smart Smoke) caused my to break out in a weird rash. I didn't figure it out for a while because I had been using a different brand and had no ill effects, so I figured they were all the same. Not true. What is true is that since these are not regulated, no one knows exactly what is in them. Sure they have nicotine, but who knows what other types of preservatives or chemicals are in them. Many are made in China and we're all aware of the tainted products that come from there. The rash went away once I quit the e cigs.

    Yes they will help you quit tobacco, but they could cause other effects so be careful.
  • garyluisi
    100 posts
    edited May 2013
    Mine just died :(
  • pharrah2003
    920 posts
    edited May 2013
    garyluisi wrote:
    Mine just died :(

    I have an extra battery to spare :)

    The brand I use has a little stand in the mall near me and they have been really great about replacing bad batteries and having some terrific sales.
  • st33lcas3
    256 posts Member
    edited May 2013
    garyluisi wrote:
    Mine just died :(

    I have an extra battery to spare :)

    The brand I use has a little stand in the mall near me and they have been really great about replacing bad batteries and having some terrific sales.

    Good point. If anyone decides to start using these, get the brands that come with recharger. The non rechargeable ones claim to last for two packs worth of puffs, but they never do. It costs more and you're throwing a lot of batteries in the trash. The started kits with chargers cost a little more, but it's worth it.
  • pharrah2003
    920 posts
    edited May 2013
    st33lcas3 wrote:
    garyluisi wrote:
    Mine just died :(

    I have an extra battery to spare :)

    The brand I use has a little stand in the mall near me and they have been really great about replacing bad batteries and having some terrific sales.

    Good point. If anyone decides to start using these, get the brands that come with recharger. The non rechargeable ones claim to last for two packs worth of puffs, but they never do. It costs more and you're throwing a lot of batteries in the trash. The started kits with chargers cost a little more, but it's worth it.

    :thumbup: Spot on!
    My hubby and I have chargers at work, via USB ports
    In each of our cars
    And one on each of our bedside where we always have a back up battery fully charged :)
  • GodaiNoBaka
    20 posts
    edited May 2013
    rolybert7 wrote:
    Its ridiculous that they are not sold to minors( Ones without nicotine).

    If I had teenagers I would prefer they use these than real cigarettes (which they will get any way legal or not)

    Sure.... Kids wouldn't abuse this by purchasing bottles of concentrated nicotine to brew their own juice at home. Kids are already abusing stimulants *cough* ADHD meds *cough*, and you think they wouldn't game the system for a nicotine?

    You want harmless cigarette-look-alikes so your kid can look cool? Well this store sells them, and they worked for me back in the 5th grade. ;)

    Sure it's possible to jig the system in the way you've described. And no doubt some kids would figure out how to do it. Some kids brew their own wine (or worse) in the basement, too. Anything can be abused. But if we banned everything that kids could find a way to abuse, we would have to card them at the door of the local drug and grocery stores. Would a TYPICAL young user of e-cigs be bothered to do this? Especially if their goal was to pass among smokers without actually smoking? I'd venture a guess not.

    BTW, candy and bubble gum cigarettes have been banned by several countries, and several state and local jurisdictions in the U.S. Which shows how intelligent banning something on the off chance that someone using it outside of its intended use will harm themselves really is.
  • sherryt07
    3273 posts Member
    edited May 2013
    Love the e-cig topic!

    I smoked cigs for a very long time.. Think I came out of my mom with a cig in my hand.
    Several years ago, I was really feeling it in my chest. A constant pain/discomfort. But I really enjoy smoking, I am what I call a true smoker, not simply a social smokers. Social smokers can stop when they want, but if you are a true smoker... Its a whole other story.

    So about 3 years ago it became very real to me that if I don't do something, this is going to kill me. That is when I started to look into E Cigs. From my research I found "white cloud" aka "Cirrus" to be the best for a true smoke to switch over as some of the other brands.. I don't know what it is, but people seem to go back to cigarettes. I have been an E-Cig fan for 3 years now, no more chest pains, no more sucking in all the tar and carcinogenics (cancer causing chemicals), and have helped numerous coworkers and friends (long time smokers) make the transition and my hubby and even some strangers that come and ask me about it too. Not only health wise am I happy about this life choice I made, but my hubby and I save sooo much money (especially because we were American Spirit smokers), my hands no longer smell gross, with e cigs I can smoke in my car, in the house... The list of benefits go on and on. My work even let's me use it at my desk. It is so funny how many people at my work now smoke at their desk... Productions up, lol.

    Yes... I am a very big fan. :)

    And though, I didn't go to e-cigs to quit, it definitely would be easier fo me to do it now than then.
    Tip: if you are a true smoker at about a pack a day start with extra nicotine one, then work down to regular. I found this helped me to stick to it the first month. Now I can smoke the light or regular just fine.


    As for minors having access, I believe the laws make sense as they are for and in relation to what it represents (habit of smoking) which is dangerous. And truth be told, if minors want to smoke... Like we did when we were underage they will figure out a way to do it.. So at that point they can also make that choice it is going to be a cig or an e-cig.

    It's similar for me, I went to e-cigs originally because I could no longer afford real cigarettes. New York has some of the highest taxes in the country when it comes to cigarettes. And it was really important that it feel like I was still smoking a real cigarette, or it wouldn't have worked for me. I still loved smoking. October 6th of this year will be 3 years exactly since I've had a real cigarette. But it is kind of funny that I smoked non-menthol as a smoker, but had to switch to menthol for the e-cig. I tried the regular flavor first, but it had this steamy taste I couldn't deal with. The menthol flavoring covered it right up. Green Smoke is my brand. It's a tiny bit more expensive, but I'm still using my original long battery. It's still charging well, going on 3 years now. I've tried some other brands but haven't found any as good as what I got. There really is a big difference in brands.
  • pharrah2003
    920 posts
    edited May 2013
    Sherry..

    This is kind of funny.. Check it out Oct 2010 is when I did the switch and I was a non-menthol smoker, but with the e-cigs the mint/menthol flavor is my favorite and the flavor I buy.

    Hmmm... Get out of my head. ;)

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