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  • johnny50373
    2768 posts Member
    edited June 2014
    shaygitz wrote:
    I'm a proud Arizonan, born and raised(crowd gasps). I love where I'm from.

    I'm a transplanted one, and I have a sincere question: what's to love??

    The Sun! Sure it's hot in the summer but I like the heat.
    Don't quote me on the temp. but I believe it was in the 70s possibly 80s this last Christmas. We were out sitting by the pool! Getting sun! On Christmas!
    There is tons to do outdoors. We have a great social scene.
    We are less than 4hrs from Vegas, less than 6hrs from San Diego or Rocky Point, and less than 4hrs from snow with rivers and lakes everywhere.

    What don't you like about the PLACE(not the politicians)?
  • ZennGlenn
    1781 posts Member
    edited June 2014
    All pretty darn good replies /summations...
    My 2cents: thank goodness for: Simpsons, Futurama, Family Guy, American Dad, SouthPark, Tripping The Rift, Triptank, Pinky & The Brain, Freakazoid, The Tick, Eek The Cat & The Terrible Thunderlizards, Shrek, & where it all really began w/ Popeye & good old Bugs Bunny...
    And not to mention non-animation extravagance of: Seth Macfarlane (Ted!), Mel Brooks (Spaceballs, Young Frankenstein, Blazing Saddles, History of the World), Peter Sellers' Pink Panther hysteria, Time Bandits, Army of Darkness, Tom Hanks in Joe Vs. the Volcano, The Money Pit, & of course Forest Gump, Bill Cosby, Don Rickles, Richard Jeni, Carlos Mencia, George Carlin, Wayans Bros., everything Jim Carrey & Will Ferrell, Seinfeld, Beetlejuice, Vacation, Planes Trains & Automobiles, Joe Vs. The Volcano, The Money Pit, Dennis Leary in The Ref, Chevy Chase's Vacation films, Blll Murray mayhem in Caddeyshack, GhostBusters, Stripes, Grounghog Day, Zombieland, Eddie Murphy as Prof. Klump, Austin Powers, Simon Pegg's outrageous Paul & Shaun of the Dead, Dave Chappelle, Tosh.0, & lastly solid intellectual political satire of Bill Maher, Colbert, & John Oliver, etc., etc. :!: :twisted: :mrgreen:
    ...All very thankfully keeping me sane in an insane world 8)
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  • howardkc23
    4 posts
    edited June 2014
    I grew up in the south and most of the south are bigots, not all of them, but a lot of them move, much like myself, so percentage fluctuates between 97%-99%! :wink:
  • shaygitz
    1009 posts Member
    edited June 2014
    shaygitz wrote:
    I'm a proud Arizonan, born and raised(crowd gasps). I love where I'm from.

    I'm a transplanted one, and I have a sincere question: what's to love??

    The Sun! Sure it's hot in the summer but I like the heat.
    Don't quote me on the temp. but I believe it was in the 70s possibly 80s this last Christmas. We were out sitting by the pool! Getting sun! On Christmas!
    There is tons to do outdoors. We have a great social scene.
    We are less than 4hrs from Vegas, less than 6hrs from San Diego or Rocky Point, and less than 4hrs from snow with rivers and lakes everywhere.

    What don't you like about the PLACE(not the politicians)?

    It's mostly the people, not just the politicians (after all, they are a subset of the people). An inordinate number of yahoos in trucks, the politicians are simply yahoos in suits. Horrid drivers-- they do things here you simply don't see anywhere else. Lousy schools-- as a result, a populace that, on average, just doesn't seem real bright (present company excepted, of course!). Slapdash city layout re neighborhoods, freeways, etc. Trash everywhere-- people here seem to believe the ground is the proper place to dispose of whatever it is they don't want. Graffiti culture. Indoor baseball. Grinding poverty. Casinos in cities. Haboobs. et cetera!!

    That's the problem when you live somewhere people flock to-- everybody's comparing it to where they came from. I'm from California, so I know :D

  • MusicBooks960
    903 posts Member
    edited June 2014
    As many of the other contributors have pointed out, the show, and consequently the game, have taken jabs at just about every person/group/nationality/area you can name. One of the trademarks of The Simpsons is to be slightly off-color in virtually every respect. Once again, other contributors have pointed out that it's all fun and games until it's directed at you. Having said that, although I haven't traveled the world much, I can firmly say that ignorance and hatred exist in the form of bigotry absolutely EVERYWHERE! Somewhere in Antarctica there's a sea lion who's hating on a cute little penguin because he looks different. Stupid sea lion. But, I digress. The point I'm trying to make is, as long as there is diversity, there will be someone whom is stupid, cowardly, or just plain mean enough to dislike that which is different. I choose to believe the writers are not actively trying to offend anyone, but are in fact trying to put a humorous spin on ignorance. As someone who has been discriminated against many times myself, I generally take it in stride. If someone is hating on me because of my: race, gender, age, appearance, orientation, social status, locale, body modifications, hairstyle, place of birth, religion, choice of music, et cetera, why should I feel compelled to feed the trolls? I could be offended by many of the things The Simpsons have said over the years, but in my opinion they are either doing it to try to get a rise out of me, or are trying to put a lighthearted twist on the character's stupidity. Doesn't matter to me, whatever it is, as both the show and the game are fictional. I choose to worry about the real-life problem of discrimination. Long story short, (Too late!) if everyone could learn to be a little less scared of those who are different, the world would be a much nicer place. I cannot say I'm sorry for my text wall response, as the message I'm trying to convey is very important to me. TL;DR: IMO the writers aren't actually trying to offend anyone, and everyone in the entire world could help with the problem of bigotry by coming together by realizing we're all human beings. :D
  • jae_bazz
    5730 posts Member
    edited June 2014
    I'm a proud Arizonan, born and raised(crowd gasps). I love where I'm from. I'm also not the one that makes the policies around here. AZ is and has been a joke for quite some time. I don't let it bother me. I know I'm not the joke. If others lump all Arizonans together that shows their ignorance.

    My parents were hippies(mom big time). I also carry the hippie gene. I love everyone. This is what I teach my kids(also Arizonans).

    My parents were not hippies, but they tolerated my friends when I was a kid with my friends(many whom they disapproved of big time).

    Indiana is easy to make fun of thanks to Richard Murdouch in 2012, and the fact that the entire state legislature is a solid majority Republican so they want to push the homophobic views on the entire state populace, fortunately, some of us fight back on that

    Totally unrelated to the OP, but: Hi, fellow Hoosier! (Wasn't born here but I've been kicking around since 2008...)

    More related: I actually thought that line was much less sweeping than most of The Simpsons' stereotype humor. I didn't really see it as ALL people in the South are bigots, just that there is a lot of bigotry. Which let's be real, is barely even debatable.
  • DamnedDonuts
    231 posts
    edited June 2014
    drumnman wrote:
    Dear lord at the raging against the OP! There are some fine rebuttals here, but some of your responses are so nasty. Agree or disagree, but I don't think there's need for such flaming.

    And for the record, I do disagree. The Simpsons is satire whose bread and butter is making exaggerated jokes at the expense of stereotypes. There is a long line of ethnicities, religions, and geographical regions who have been recipients of their 25 years of mocking.

    I'm surprised at your response especially in light of your very nicely done signature block.

    The OP is clearly a one hit wonder that fits the definition of a TROLL to a tee.

    I would have thought you might have admonished us for filling the trough but not for what was put in the trough.

    ~I do admit I did not read all the replies but if they were really that bad our wonderful mods would have locked this thread long ago, I would think. 8)
  • XBL-Heretic
    1228 posts Member
    edited June 2014
    leongeiser wrote:
    "Lighten up Francis"

    LOL :)
  • lauriegator
    306 posts
    edited June 2014
    I'm a proud Arizonan, born and raised(crowd gasps). I love where I'm from. I'm also not the one that makes the policies around here. AZ is and has been a joke for quite some time. I don't let it bother me. I know I'm not the joke. If others lump all Arizonans together that shows their ignorance.

    My parents were hippies(mom big time). I also carry the hippie gene. I love everyone. This is what I teach my kids(also Arizonans).

    Flagstaff or Sedona? :D
  • mike3775198
    266 posts
    edited June 2014
    jae_bazz wrote:
    I'm a proud Arizonan, born and raised(crowd gasps). I love where I'm from. I'm also not the one that makes the policies around here. AZ is and has been a joke for quite some time. I don't let it bother me. I know I'm not the joke. If others lump all Arizonans together that shows their ignorance.

    My parents were hippies(mom big time). I also carry the hippie gene. I love everyone. This is what I teach my kids(also Arizonans).

    My parents were not hippies, but they tolerated my friends when I was a kid with my friends(many whom they disapproved of big time).

    Indiana is easy to make fun of thanks to Richard Murdouch in 2012, and the fact that the entire state legislature is a solid majority Republican so they want to push the homophobic views on the entire state populace, fortunately, some of us fight back on that

    Totally unrelated to the OP, but: Hi, fellow Hoosier! (Wasn't born here but I've been kicking around since 2008...)

    More related: I actually thought that line was much less sweeping than most of The Simpsons' stereotype humor. I didn't really see it as ALL people in the South are bigots, just that there is a lot of bigotry. Which let's be real, is barely even debatable.

    Ahh you missed the good ol days living in hoosierville when the Dems and Repubs worked together and we had Governors who actually cared more about the state than political careers(Daniels, Pence, etc)
  • drumnman
    1475 posts Member
    edited June 2014
    I didn't feel it was trolling at all. In fact, every time the writers specifically make a targeted joke like this in game, a few threads pop up about it. I felt the OP stated their displeasure quite succinctly without resorting to inflammatory language or name calling. Just because I think their viewpoints are somewhat overly-sensitive, it doesn't make them a troll nor their complaints any less worthy of discussion.
  • lauriegator
    306 posts
    edited June 2014
    deathpo wrote:
    I have always known that the Simpsons creators were extremely liberal in their views but this issue is squarely on EA and all those associated with this game for allowing bigoted statements to make it to their game.
    Starting Krusty the Hair Colorist Pt. 1 with the ending line “Huh. I never knew bigotry was this emotionally satisfying. I think I finally get the South.”

    So from what I understand everyone that is living in or is from the southern half of the US is automatically a bigot; people like myself, or my wife, or my one year old daughter… according to EA and TSTO we are all bigots. I would argue that EA (TSTO) and those that wrote and Ok’d such a statement are the ignorant bigots, to refer to millions of people as the very same thing.

    Hi Deathpo and welcome to the forum! Thank you for the interesting lead into this discussion.

    It is difficult for me to think that that the "South" has totally reformed from its segregationist roots. Approximately 5 miles from my house is Strom Thurmond High School. We also have Lake Strom Thurmond on the SC/GA border. If you don't want to drive out into the rural area, you can always travel on the Strom Thurman Memorial Highway, also known as I-20. Now, the esteemed senator from South Carolina died in 2003. So all of these wonderful memorials have been bestowed on the late senator in the last 10 years. You can look him up in Wikipedia to learn all about him.

    Are all South Carolina residents bigots? I doubt it. I doubt that all people who live south of the Mason/Dixon are bigots. I will say that the tributes to Mr. Thurmond do show that some people in the South still have some amount of prejudice against people who are "different". I would also say that many of us feel discomfort when we are put into situations that are different from the social norms that we were raised with. We may be uncomfortable with the person speaking a "foreign" language in the US, we may be uncomfortable being the only white person in a group of people with a different skin color or maybe we don't like the fact that one of your co-workers is involved in a relationship with someone who is the same sex.

    We are not all bigots. People in Arizona are not all bigots. People in the South are not all bigots. But, there are Bigots everywhere and bigotry is not limited to Caucasians.

    Time to nuke Krustyland!
  • johnny50373
    2768 posts Member
    edited June 2014
    I'm a proud Arizonan, born and raised(crowd gasps). I love where I'm from. I'm also not the one that makes the policies around here. AZ is and has been a joke for quite some time. I don't let it bother me. I know I'm not the joke. If others lump all Arizonans together that shows their ignorance.

    My parents were hippies(mom big time). I also carry the hippie gene. I love everyone. This is what I teach my kids(also Arizonans).

    Flagstaff or Sedona? :D

    :lol: well done.
    Born and raised in Scottsdale. Now, I live in Mesa.
  • MusicBooks960
    903 posts Member
    edited June 2014
    deathpo wrote:
    I have always known that the Simpsons creators were extremely liberal in their views but this issue is squarely on EA and all those associated with this game for allowing bigoted statements to make it to their game.
    Starting Krusty the Hair Colorist Pt. 1 with the ending line “Huh. I never knew bigotry was this emotionally satisfying. I think I finally get the South.”

    So from what I understand everyone that is living in or is from the southern half of the US is automatically a bigot; people like myself, or my wife, or my one year old daughter… according to EA and TSTO we are all bigots. I would argue that EA (TSTO) and those that wrote and Ok’d such a statement are the ignorant bigots, to refer to millions of people as the very same thing.

    Hi Deathpo and welcome to the forum! Thank you for the interesting lead into this discussion.

    It is difficult for me to think that that the "South" has totally reformed from its segregationist roots. Approximately 5 miles from my house is Strom Thurmond High School. We also have Lake Strom Thurmond on the SC/GA border. If you don't want to drive out into the rural area, you can always travel on the Strom Thurman Memorial Highway, also known as I-20. Now, the esteemed senator from South Carolina died in 2003. So all of these wonderful memorials have been bestowed on the late senator in the last 10 years. You can look him up in Wikipedia to learn all about him.

    Are all South Carolina residents bigots? I doubt it. I doubt that all people who live south of the Mason/Dixon are bigots. I will say that the tributes to Mr. Thurmond do show that some people in the South still have some amount of prejudice against people who are "different". I would also say that many of us feel discomfort when we are put into situations that are different from the social norms that we were raised with. We may be uncomfortable with the person speaking a "foreign" language in the US, we may be uncomfortable being the only white person in a group of people with a different skin color or maybe we don't like the fact that one of your co-workers is involved in a relationship with someone who is the same sex.

    We are not all bigots. People in Arizona are not all bigots. People in the South are not all bigots. But, there are Bigots everywhere and bigotry is not limited to Caucasians.

    Time to nuke Krustyland!
    After my own (hopefully!) insightful post, I have been monitoring this thread. I read your own submission with great interest...aaannnddd then read the last line and peed myself laughing! Bravo to you, my obviously intelligent and highly humorous fellow forumreeno! *Applauds boisterously, and hopes everyone reads your submission*
  • mdawny
    325 posts Member
    edited June 2014
    I'm from the South and the dialogue made my jaw drop then laugh! Lol. It doesn't bother me. There are stereotypes for everyone. I'm also Irish, but I don't drink. I think this world is trying to become too politically correct. IMHO.
  • neuroheart
    8132 posts Member
    edited June 2014
    Born and raised in Scottsdale.

  • jusesp3914672
    57 posts
    edited June 2014
    The only thing I've found offensive about the Simpsons is the lack of jokes about Minnesota and the Midwest in general, surely we have some stereotypes they can exploit for others amusement?
  • hyphen_ena
    34 posts Member
    edited June 2014
    deathpo wrote:
    I get that in the eyes of media that it is ok to bash anyone from Southern America, I just wonder when it will be ok to label all muslims as terrorists?, all Jewish people as cheap?, or all French people as cowards with an odor problem?
    I didn't realize "The South" was a religion, or ethnicity. I thought it was a geographical region of the country known for, among other things, holding onto racist practices and values, and creating/backing discriminatory legislation.
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