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Simpsons: The Conspiracy Game ~ Homeland - CONGRATULATIONS SPRINGFIELDERS
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As for the villains not killing the protector, that is kind of silly. But at the same time the chances of the protector protecting the person they're going to kill that night (especially with so many players right now) is VERY slim. It could be worth the risk to just let him live and have us all presume he must be the villain after all.
I really don't think that Wilki is a villain, but I do think he'll be dead soon
I'm 99% sure Wilki is a villain. He claimed he was protector, but didn't realise that the villains would want him dead now. We woke up this morning to the death of Jblue and stingray, the only reason I can think on is that Wilki and his accomplice voted out Jblue, and now the opposing team will take out him at the next night, if Springfielders don't first.
If the GL told wilki to confess his character, why are you people still suspicious.
I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!
^This seems important. I totally hear where Annette is coming from with the HUGE risk involved with leaving the protector alive, but this point above almost makes it seem like it would be a risk worth taking.
The tricky thing is, if we buy Wilki's claim that he's the protector (which I'm actually more and more inclined to do. I was really persuaded by his statement "I was told that because I hinted I had to reveal." To blame the GL for making you reveal a fake identity, that doesn't seem like something that is very much in Wilki's character).... if we buy that I also agree with Annette that we learn more about the villains by seeing which one of us they target as opposed to letting them take out the protector. :-/ Although I really do hate to sacrifice someone who is convincing me of his innocence to catch the bad guys. Gah! It's only day 2, and already this game has gotten so hard!
It seems the Stonecutters were the villains last night. The Stonecutters do not know who the Aliens are. The Protector does not know who any of the villains are. The Stonecutters do not know who the Protector is protecting. So it would be unknown to them whether the Protector would be protecting their target. They would have gotten nobody.
Either they were stupid (and lucky), or wilki is a villain.
The villains need to kill a minimum of, I believe, 6 good Springfielders. At this point in the game, for them, it doesn't matter THAT much who they kill. They'll be killing for at least 6 more days (I think it's 6 ... not sure) As long as they kill SOMEONE, they're making progress. By leaving wilki alive, they risked killing nobody.
And if wilki is killed by the villains, we learn nothing about the villains. Except that they're not willing to throw away a kill. And that would be true of ANYONE with two working brain cells. (IMHO)
Exactly! As the previous protector I didn't manage to predict who was going to get killed once during the last game. Even when I was 100% sure Wilki would be getting killed because he was picking on Elian and Stingray so much he wasn't. I think with so many people in the game right now to choose from, the villains will know that the protector isn't really their priority.
But either way we are all pretty much agreed that Wilki is probably going one way or another tonight, so we really should be trying to find another villain seeing as there are four of them out there!
lmao!
We're spending too much time on Wilki and not enough figuring out who the other three are, which is going in their favour - under the radar much?
Friggin Stonecutters
WHY would the GL say something? Villains are allowed to lie! That's in the rules. It's part of the game. GL isn't gonna change THAT rule. Not for anything.
Assume for sake of argument that wilki is a villain. Here's what we know:
Villains are allowed to lie.
Wilki says he was forced to give up his identity.
Villains are allowed to lie. Was that a lie?
Wilki claims that he is Chief Wiggum.
Villains are allowed to lie about their names. Was that a lie?
Until the GL turns the "villains are permitted to lie" rule on it's ear, and tells us that wilki IS Chief Wiggum, then there is NO reason to believe it.
None.
I think we should definitely also be pursuing the reason that JBlue died. My vote is still that the coward used them as cover, which means we might figure out more about the villains' motivations by figuring out who the coward is.
Excellent point! Do we have anything so far? I'll have a look through my charts, but not sure I've seen anything that would help with that. But that DEFINITELY makes some sense! We need every clue we can get.
+1
I agree!
Look, do what you want with mw, but there are 4 villains and one traitor out there and i want all 5 of them dead. If you wanna vote me, i unserstand because its gonna be more to go on than if the villains kill me tonight, but i am innocent, so it may be best that you vote someone else, to avoid onw of you lot getting killed. Im prepared to die for the team.
The only thing I've come up with is WJsheid's (probably sarcastic) admission that he was the coward. But it was during his first gibberish phase, so I'm not putting too much stock in it.
I've been wondering if it's worth asking who the coward is? Could we all collectively agree not to vote them off if they came forward? I don't think the villains would necessarily go after the coward, because it means they can't control who they kill. I'm not sure this is something they would be wiling to do, but it would help us greatly if we were working under the assumption that they were the ones targeted.
Or, this coward thing is totally off base, and the two Stonecutters are having a bit of a laugh at my expense right now. So many unanswered questions!
Annette, you are smart. Why are you saying this? Is there a different reason you want wilki gone.
If I said, Annette(as game leader) told me to give out my character and it was a lie, wouldn't you say I didn't say that.
Villains can lie all they want. BUT THEY BETTER NOT PUT WORDS IN MY MOUTH! Don't you agree. If not, WHY?
I totally understand your reasoning about the longshot that the Protector would actually stop a killing, but consider this:
The Stonecutters cannot win this game until many more Springfielders are killed. They will eventually need to start picking off Springfielders. This particular Springfielder had an outside chance of throwing a wrench in one night. They only get one kill every TWO nights now. Why did they wait and take ANY risk of throwing one away? They need Springfielders. So take a Springfielder this time instead of next time. A trade off, yes. But not a risk.
Some commented last night that wilki's behavior seemed bizarre, and that it was suspect because of his desperation. At least one thought it seemed guilty. Wouldn't the Stonecutters have thought that same way? If he were NOT a Stonecutter, then last night wouldn't the Stonecutters have at LEAST thought there was a good chance that wilki was actually an ALIEN?
Plus, remember this. At the very least, it is ODD that wilki did not get killed last night. If it were one of us, do you really think wilki wouldn't be saying at LEAST that much? He didn't choose to be what he is. He was assigned, just like all of us. He would have done what he had to do to fulfill what he thought he needed to fulfill.
Maybe. Probably. Probably not. Yes. No.
Guys, this game is about lying. Remember that.