Full TC Test

you on wheel or controller?

I'd love to know more about this. I've always been a no assist controller player, but Full TC seemed so overpowered in F1 22, and I felt the need to run Medium TC in my league just to be competitive. I heard in the "deep dive" videos from the devs for 23 that non assisted drivers should be given an advantage in the performance stats, and whilst traction is so much easier, there doesn't appear to be a handicap for using Full TC 

So I have raced in a lot of leagues. It's actually extremely rare that someone is elite fast on controller with No TC.

99% of us are faster with Full TC on controller.

99% of elite fast guys use wheel and pedals and No TC and usually have expensive setup.

---

@BadMayh3m wrote:

FTC has an added benefit that causes it to be better. 

The car DOESN'T Bottom with FTC and the time difference is the car dragging. Again I can raise my RH but I'll be giving up down force to FTC.

Is this the way FTC is supposed to work?  I honestly don't have any idea but might need looked at.

---

Interesting test. Is the dragging in the traction zones or only at speed where the downforce is compressing  suspension?

If the latter which I’d suspect, then I’d say its definitely an issue - TC should not change supension behavior by eliminating compression due to downforce at speed. Might affect pitch during acceleration where its limiting wheelspin (tho I’d think better traction would cause a bit more compression) but at speed should not.

Marcel Kiefer's test:

https://youtu.be/3sz3OXn27fA

---

@RVladimiro wrote:
@Ultrasonic_77which begs the question, why are different people getting different results?

---

People drive differently, is the only real answer there is to that question.

It also highly depends on your skill level as well. If you are driving 5 seconds off the WR pace in time trial for example, then chances are you will see a massive increase in pace using TC in any form. At least at first.

If you are driving at WR pace in time trial, such as the person in the video @Ultrasonic_77 linked. Chances are TC in any form will be slower.

Skill level really plays a part in what results anyone will get when it comes to testing assists in most racing games.

Assists are a really hard one to judge, and no matter the game, these conversations always come up. They even happen in regards to iRacing and rFactor.

I remember the same dicussion came up in regards to Dirt Rally 2.0 as well. At the time I was able to pace very close to WR pace, so I tested it for myself. For me, the assists was a lot slower. Greatly so in some regards. But that game, for most stages, relys on loss of traction in order to gain the fastest times on loose surface stages. So Traction control really slows you down, and ABS can even make it harder to weight shift on corner entry as stopping power is reduced.

I think the OP raised a question about the behavior of the TC assist, not about how/when/if to use it.

The assists should be appropriate to the context of the game/sim, and not be overpowered or unrealistic in application.

TC should limit wheelspin, not adjust the suspension. For the top drivers it should be slightly slower as would be expected all else equal.

If people choose to use it and it helps them enjoy so be it. Personaly I’d like to compare myself to those using similar setups so filters would be my pref