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I can't help but think it has a lot to do with the relaxed/best location search part. I'm set to relaxed wait for teammates, who might be set to best location and we sit and wait and wait and wait This is really frustrating to say the least. I'm really not sure what else to do, I think of how many mornings I've wasted countless hours waiting and waiting, just to quit and play COD. The " team" needs to get on this and investigate
@EA_Aljo : So, it's been two weeks now. Any result on the analysis? Any solution? Any timeline?
Issue is still there and even worse. Which makes CHEL Drop Ins basically unplayable.
- cb1c2748ade08ed12 years agoSeasoned Scout
Two full weeks should allow ample time to resolve this, I'm assuming the investigators will be off soon for the Holidays which means we will be waiting until the new year? My gut tells me we're stuck with this problem.
- EA_Aljo2 years ago
Community Manager
Hello, everyone. We don't have an update yet. We'll post one when we have some news.
- 2 years ago
That is a big disappointment and the opposite of customer centricity.
- Fadetoblack0212 years agoRising Vanguard
@HypoLuxa93 wrote:That is a big disappointment and the opposite of customer centricity.
If you're looking for consistent developer updates, ETAs, information or fixes for your game-breaking issues then you should probably know, God has died a long time ago. It's just us terrible souls clinging desperately to the husk of a hockey game, crying from the fourth circle of the great inferno for more great memories that will probably never again come.
Also, judging by the way there's never any timelines for any of the problems here and all we can ever officially get is a "hope it will be addressed some time in the future" means he probably doesn't know anything either.
Now, I understand this may feel a little...unfair at the same price point when you compare it to something like "Madden" where they get weekly commentary updates for scores from professionals and notable in game stats and results that happen every week, great music and gameplay, etc. but if I say anymore about that I'll be disciplined again.
- 2 years ago
FWIW. CHEL Matchmaking, up until last week, was not this horrendous. They definitely did (aka broke) something in the last patch that made it very bad. It takes upwards of 2-5m per drop-in regardless of location setting.
However, setting to 'Relaxed' does seem to make an impact. Albeit a small one.
- cb1c2748ade08ed12 years agoSeasoned Scout
Up until last year I never had a problem finding games, last year, (for the first time). I had to set the game to relaxed and I would find games. This year it doesn't make a difference, can't find a game in a timely manner regardless of what I do.
- 2 years ago
Oh yes, the big money goes to where big money comes from, and for EA that's not the NHL title. Been like this for years, and over the time i accepted that and still enjoyed the game.
What drives me mad this year, obviously a change (new matchmaking) broke the drop in mode, a quick fix is not in sight and a rollback is not considered. Two month after release.
But i guess it's time to quit whining and move on...
- 2 years ago
Yep, something definitely went south after this last patch. I simply cannot get into a drop-in lobby and have tried for many hours over the past 3 days. The only time I've had a WoC game connect is when I filled an open spot for a club game - in that case we got into the matchup lobby within seconds.
- PirataMorado472 years agoSeasoned Traveler
I've been 2 hours searching for a 6's drop in game today to no avail. 2 hours or more. I get a full set of teammates, waiting for an opponent that never arrives. Start search again.
2 hours!
This is simply unexcusable!
- cb1c2748ade08ed12 years agoSeasoned Scout
Another website has a few subjects on this issue, not very happy people, not everyone comes here.
- FloundinatorQQ2 years agoNew Veteran
Wait times am have been atrocious for 5+ years... How is this not something to look into and put at the top of the list... They act like this is first year we've said something about ridiculous wait times to get into a drop in game.. only kinda bright side is, that the search times are better when searching with a club.
- cb1c2748ade08ed12 years agoSeasoned Scout
This is just ridiculous, we waste so much time just waiting, Just be honest and tell us it's really being looked at , if not, we can just move on. The games been out far too long for this to continue, How long did that investigation patch come out, 5 weeks ago and still nothing? The TOS needs to be changed to say wait times may exceed 20 minutes or more, likely more.
- kayak_V2 years agoNew Traveler
I feel the new game intentionally makes the game difficult for anyone who has played and NHL game in the past.
They forced a new set of controls on everyone. These new controls and “mechanics “ or “ animations “ greatly reduce a players overall control of their characters actions, primarily he goes from one “animation to another.
the new controls have obvious glaring problems and poorly mapped locations for reverse hit etc. they offer a player no option for cancelling a big hit. When a character has a big hit button pressed but can’t deliver he also can’t poke check or pick up a lose puck, furthermore when he finally does release the button he better be by himself on the ice otherwise he will inadvertently take a penalty.
All this to say
it appears that EA has made the decision to ruin the game for the physical players. To allow the no defence playing 160 pnd dangler to skate around unimpeded. Since EVERY good teammate and CHEL player knows how to play both sides of the puck, they have decided to level the playing field. You don’t need to be good or proactively defend. Just stand around and wait. If you start dominating too much physically they give you made up penalty’s like Elbowing, or Boarding. Who asked for that? More penalties? Not the good players who play both sides of the puck I promise you that.
in short the community is dwindling because they are catering to casual gamers. This is not a casual gamers title. Give the people back their game.
Fix the controller scheme !!!! Offer the old layout!!! We. Know you won’t do that though. This was done deliberately. Fix the controls!!! Fix the controls!!! Fix the controls.
it worked fine last year now fans of this franchise are furious and leaving in droves - EA_Aljo2 years ago
Community Manager
Those aren't made up penalties. They only occur under specific conditions. Elbowing has a greater chance of happening when being called for a charge if you have lower discipline. Boarding is nothing new and has always had a chance of being called when smashing a player with their back turned to you on the boards. Lower discipline makes this more likely as well.
There was no decision made to specifically ruin the game. I don't like the new controls myself. That doesn't mean the game is ruined for me. I've had to adapt. Just like everyone did when the skill stick controls were released.
You're able to cancel hits using the skill stick controls, but I know this isn't possible with Total Controls.
I don't think WoC players are just standing around and waiting to defend. Being proactive is always the better approach. As someone that exclusively plays defense, I know I'm much better at this position when I don't just stand around and wait for opposing players to skate in to me. I'm playing physical without taking a elbowing and boarding calls. Mainly because I'm not just trying to to smash everyone and I'm boardplaying instead of hitting someone when I'm facing their back up against the boards.
How do these penalties mean we're catering to casual players? They should be the ones taking them more since they're not aware of these rules and actively avoiding taking them.
Yes. The controls were changed deliberately. Part of that was removing protect puck since we had a huge amount of complaints about this.
- kayak_V2 years agoNew Traveler
Yes board play is so fun and hardly ever leads to penalties. You suggestion that I not hit opponents is laughable. You suggestion that elbowing is somehow exceptable when it hasn’t been in the game in years.!!’ Laughable. This is excuses, and addition that the new controls are flawed.
the ability to protect the puck is a real thing in hockey, the fact that we can’t protect the puck is a demonstration of deliberately dumbing the game down to casual players.
puck protect or not in the old controls a solid body check separated the player. Again appears to me that a more experienced or physical player had no problems with the old ways. Cateringg to the casual 160 pnd sniper build is catering to the casual gamer. Simple
Who plays as 160 pound snipers???? Not team players, not defenders,
I will tell you who, the casual scrub who thinks he needs high offensive stats in order to score.
Every experience player knows it takes a lot more to succeed than a hard wrist shot.
a big guy protects the puck. . Little guy cant get puck from big guy. Little guy cry’s and cry’s. Devs change game so little guy has advantage, which runs contrary to real life, hockey, humanity in general.
- kayak_V2 years agoNew Traveler
I’m sure it must be obvious to the people with the actual stats of sales, online population etc that this game is a dud. Why not give people what they want instead of insisting that we are wrong. This game is flawless etc. Don’t believe you lying eyes and shared experiences.
sometimes you have good intentions and things don’t work out. The new controller scheme which seems flawed and almost deliberately counter intuitive is a great example. By trying to fix one problem you’ve created fozens more, and worse ones too.
I have a friends list filled with CHEL buddies of years past, they won’t even install the game again let alone play. I can’t be the only person seeing this.
Give us back our game!!! We paid our money too.
- EA_Aljo2 years ago
Community Manager
I'm not saying not to hit. You just have to do it without breaking the rules. Holding your hit for too many strides will cause charging. Hitting players facing the boards can cause a boarding call. I don't see how this means you can no longer hit. Elbowing has been in the game in the past. It was removed from online play, but obviously has returned.
You can still protect the puck. I don't like the new controls for it either, but it can be done still. This game is not being specifically dumbed down for casual players. Skill still matters. A casual player isn't typically going to be better than someone that plays far more.
I play a 160 pound D man. I need the speed to keep up with quick forwards. However, I'm not a big hitter. I defend with poke checks, angling them to the outside, cutting off their lanes for passes and shots, stick lifts, boardplay, shoves, etc. While I don't hit often, I haven't had any problems with it. I also see plenty of good style teams that love to just hit everything that moves. So, hitting is still a viable way to defend if that's how you want to play. Bigger forwards are also plenty capable at being successful. Regardless of the size of your build, teamplay and skill are what is going to win you games. Even a tiny, speedy forward isn't going to automatically get past defense due to their size. A good defender is going to stop them. Just like a good forward is going to evade them.
You say I'm insisting players are wrong. I'm not doing that at all. I'm saying the game has changed. I'm sure it will change in the future as well. People don't like the controls. Like I said, I'm one of them. I'm not debating that and I'm not calling you all wrong. We all can either adapt to the new controls or wait and see if they change. If the controls change, it won't happen until a later game. They are locked in for NHL 24.
- kayak_V2 years agoNew Traveler
I’m also fully aware of the new puck protect mechanics, how poorly they work, how ineffective it is and how counter intuitive it feels. I feel like I need to dislocate my thumb or cross my hands to do it and it doesn’t even work half as well as the vision button to use body positioning to protect the puck… ie hockeying
- kayak_V2 years agoNew Traveler
So your teammate hit the guy who you were gonna hit. Now what. You pressed the b button and now you’re stuck holding it in. Because of this you can’t collect the puck, poke check, block a shot, nothing you are essentially a pylon. Now if you don’t want to take a penalty you have to locate some empty ice where you can release the b button, wait for your digital self to do his little spasm where he attempts to decapitate his shadow and nearly falls down, then provided no part of your dudes spasm touched another player you may renter play.
again, explain to me, how is this fair? How is this not punishment for those of us who would rather defend our blue line than back up and contain?
- EA_Aljo2 years ago
Community Manager
You can still defend the blue line and play more aggressively. Someone that is good at hitting is going to know when they need to do it so they shouldn't have to cancel it too frequently. I can see this being a problem if your primary defense is holding down the button and just going for big hits all game long. It would probably be good to time those hits better so you're not constantly missing or needing to cancel the hit when you're off target.
This isn't a punishment. We're not specifically trying to punish Total Control users. There are plenty of people able to defend very well with the new controls. They take some adapting to get used to.
- PirataMorado472 years agoSeasoned Traveler
This thread was about lobby wait times.
Lobby wait times keep being ridiculous! I've been waiting 30 minutes for a frigging game to no avail. Full team of teammates, never able to find opponents.
Solve this nightmare!!!!!
- 2 years ago
There obviously hasn’t been movement on this issue. I’m spending literally 30-60 minutes trying to find a 6v6 game and, based on the failed attempts, I can see there are enough players to launch a game. I’m a loyalist to the franchise but not sure how much more I can deal with this.
- kayak_V2 years agoNew Traveler
@EA_Aljo wrote:I'm not saying not to hit. You just have to do it without breaking the rules. Holding your hit for too many strides will cause charging. Hitting players facing the boards can cause a boarding call. I don't see how this means you can no longer hit. Elbowing has been in the game in the past. It was removed from online play, but obviously has returned.
You can still protect the puck. I don't like the new controls for it either, but it can be done still. This game is not being specifically dumbed down for casual players. Skill still matters. A casual player isn't typically going to be better than someone that plays far more.
I play a 160 pound D man. I need the speed to keep up with quick forwards. However, I'm not a big hitter. I defend with poke checks, angling them to the outside, cutting off their lanes for passes and shots, stick lifts, boardplay, shoves, etc. While I don't hit often, I haven't had any problems with it. I also see plenty of good style teams that love to just hit everything that moves. So, hitting is still a viable way to defend if that's how you want to play. Bigger forwards are also plenty capable at being successful. Regardless of the size of your build, teamplay and skill are what is going to win you games. Even a tiny, speedy forward isn't going to automatically get past defense due to their size. A good defender is going to stop them. Just like a good forward is going to evade them.
You say I'm insisting players are wrong. I'm not doing that at all. I'm saying the game has changed. I'm sure it will change in the future as well. People don't like the controls. Like I said, I'm one of them. I'm not debating that and I'm not calling you all wrong. We all can either adapt to the new controls or wait and see if they change. If the controls change, it won't happen until a later game. They are locked in for NHL 24.
I would like to know WHY if the controls are so badly, unarguably, flawed. Why would The only assertion coming from EA regarding the controls is that we are stuck with the “unarguably Flawed” controls for the entire NHL 24 lifespan.
No assertion that they are working towards a patch or workaround, no option to improve or map your own controls. Nothing, no respite, no assistance being offered just an assertion that they won’t be changed or fixed.
I guess my question is, why not? The game has had the same controls since before the millennium, somehow these controls like NASA s ability to reach the moon were lost to history I guess.
anyways I’m done arguing with the devs. I’m just done with this franchise. I’ll be back though, if they fix the controls.
- FloundinatorQQ2 years agoNew Veteran
@EA_Aljo wrote:I'm not saying not to hit. You just have to do it without breaking the rules. Holding your hit for too many strides will cause charging. Hitting players facing the boards can cause a boarding call. I don't see how this means you can no longer hit. Elbowing has been in the game in the past. It was removed from online play, but obviously has returned.
You can still protect the puck. I don't like the new controls for it either, but it can be done still. This game is not being specifically dumbed down for casual players. Skill still matters. A casual player isn't typically going to be better than someone that plays far more.
I play a 160 pound D man. I need the speed to keep up with quick forwards. However, I'm not a big hitter. I defend with poke checks, angling them to the outside, cutting off their lanes for passes and shots, stick lifts, boardplay, shoves, etc. While I don't hit often, I haven't had any problems with it. I also see plenty of good style teams that love to just hit everything that moves. So, hitting is still a viable way to defend if that's how you want to play. Bigger forwards are also plenty capable at being successful. Regardless of the size of your build, teamplay and skill are what is going to win you games. Even a tiny, speedy forward isn't going to automatically get past defense due to their size. A good defender is going to stop them. Just like a good forward is going to evade them.
You say I'm insisting players are wrong. I'm not doing that at all. I'm saying the game has changed. I'm sure it will change in the future as well. People don't like the controls. Like I said, I'm one of them. I'm not debating that and I'm not calling you all wrong. We all can either adapt to the new controls or wait and see if they change. If the controls change, it won't happen until a later game. They are locked in for NHL 24.
You say this game isn't being dumbed down for casual players, yet they have total control, which let's you pull off some of the hardest dekes in the game with a push of a button... C'mon man...
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