Dumping the puck
What's the deal with the difficulty introduced this year with something as simple as dumping the puck? I mean, it's always been problematic, but this year, it's ridiculous that half the time your ska...
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EA_Aljo
Community Manager
Community ManagerAs previously mentioned, the low dumps are so that you can't use dumps as a get out of jail free card when there's full pressure. The team is aware of the feedback on this though so it's possible changes could be made.
My point still stands. When the CPU doesn’t behave properly, it’s a big issue. They have the time and space to do whatever they want on the PK where the correct move is to ice the puck… and they can’t clear the blueline. Either change the AI behaviour or fix the puck dump.
- @tinybabyrobot ye it looks ridiculous...
I've had countless times when a defenseman had all the time in the world and still couldn't get the puck past the first forward. - The comment about puck dumps being a 'get out of jail free card' is so amusing to me. Like, my man, have you watched a hockey game? That's exactly what the puck dump is for - to alleviate pressure! You don't suppose NHLers are just high flipping the puck to see if they can hit the jumbotron, do you?
The pressure system isn't a terrible idea in theory, but the execution is super flawed. Like, yes, players get exhausted from defending for extended periods in real life, but it doesn't turn the attacking team into superheroes. The ability to keep the puck and generate good chances in real hockey doesn't come from a stat boost (obviously), it comes from time and space created by defenders being tired.
You need to balance out the pressure system. Having defenders barely able to move + a boost in stats for the attacking team + a reduction in stats for the defending team + not being able to flip the puck out is just ridiculously weighted in favor of the offense. - EA_Aljo
Yes. I fully understand dumping the puck alleviates pressure. However, if dumps worked the way they did previously, you could almost instantly kill full pressure. It would pretty much make that system useless. I absolutely understand the frustration though and I hope it changes because I completely agree dumps are too weak. While I typically don't have a problem clearing, it's very annoying. I used to use dumps more frequently on breakouts and can't do that now. It was nice for hitting that forward across the ice breaking out when I had the puck deep in my own zone in a corner. Regardless, the weak dumps are just really unrealistic, but I also get the point of having them for the reason I previously mentioned.
- @EA_Aljo
It wouldn't instantly negate the pressure at all. I routinely play in games where a team is able to get a cleared puck from their end of neutral ice and skate it back into the offensive zone without losing full pressure. And even if they DID lose full pressure, the defending team still doesn't have any energy at that point, so the attacking team can just skate back into the zone, take a few weak shots on net, retrieve the puck from exhausted defenders who still can barely skate, and voila! Full pressure again!
If you have to intentionally break a simple, realistic mechanic to make your system work, maybe the system is badly designed.
But, what do I know.
@EA_Aljo wrote:Yes. I fully understand dumping the puck alleviates pressure. However, if dumps worked the way they did previously, you could almost instantly kill full pressure. It would pretty much make that system useless. I absolutely understand the frustration though and I hope it changes because I completely agree dumps are too weak. While I typically don't have a problem clearing, it's very annoying. I used to use dumps more frequently on breakouts and can't do that now. It was nice for hitting that forward across the ice breaking out when I had the puck deep in my own zone in a corner. Regardless, the weak dumps are just really unrealistic, but I also get the point of having them for the reason I previously mentioned.
So they basically NERF a real hockey mechanic, so that it doesn’t affect their new and shiny gimmick…. Yikes ! It’s even worse than what I originally thought…
Defensive tools, you have no business in a hockey game, now go sit in a corner 😒
Honestly, I’m not even using dump pick this year. I’m having great success by just getting space, and slap shorting the puck to the other side of the rink on penalty kill. Unfortunately at 5 on 5 this would be icing but I have no problem clearing the zone at 5 on 5 so I can’t speak on this
- @PernellKarl027 it's amazing isn't it's like They're trying to decide the out come of a game by making sure they're new mechanic actually works
- @EA_Aljo The beef remains with CPUs dumping the puck with spaghetti arms. Stop ignoring that. Log the issue properly, so that the devs can fix it properly.
Today i had a cpu player dump the puck so short that he literally received the dump as it came down. Hahaha. It reminded me of the WWE Mr Perfect video where he throws the ball and catches it in the endzone. So realistic.
It needs to go back to how it used to be ,almost everyone plays full attack knowing that there is almost zero consequences that will get they'll caught being over aggressive not to mention its a defensive tool you know like in real hockey, which this game is supposed to represent
